Gloss black IROC-Z attacked by a rotary..

Silly Rabbit said:
I think it went to Dodge then and they had an IROC Daytona??
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I think I remember that...or am I thinking of the GLH's that 'Ol Shel did for them? For a while I wanted one of those Daytona's, whether it was the IROC or the GLH.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
I think I remember that...or am I thinking of the GLH's that 'Ol Shel did for them? For a while I wanted one of those Daytona's, whether it was the IROC or the GLH.
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No, your remembering it, there was a Daytona Iroc RT. 91, 92 era. They bought the licencing after GM had it. Cool little cars, a turbo 2.2 or something. They said it would do 149mph.
 
Yeah, but there was also the GLH, I think they started that with the Omni, Shel did it as a goof, then later they did the Daytona version, because I think that was the same car, anyway. Unless the GLH was a lot earlier, I seem to be getting my decades mixed up in my old age, it seems like there was a Shelby Daytona, also, which was different from the GLH, unless there was no GLH Daytona--yeah, I guess there was no GLH Daytona: A Rare Partnership | Dodge Garage
 
Setec Astronomy said:
I think I remember that...or am I thinking of the GLH's that 'Ol Shel did for them? For a while I wanted one of those Daytona's, whether it was the IROC or the GLH.
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The IROC Daytona was indeed a thing, had the Lotus-developed head a d made 224 hp, same engine that was in the Dodge R/T. The GHL-S, both Omni and Charger body styles, used the all Mopar 2.2L turbo but was intercooler making 174 hp compared to the 150 hp of the standard GLH turbo.

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Setec Astronomy said:
I didn't remember it being that early, and I don't remember the Riv having a turbo, unless that was a T-Type, which as I have said, I remember being later. I'm going to have to look to see if I have a '79 Riv brochure. I'm not disagreeing with you, I just don't remember it that way, of course, it was a couple of years ago. The '79 Riv was on the cover of C/D when it came out, I have that issue...somewhere.



Similarly, I remember that Indy Pace Car Replica being later in the 80's, but apparently not.
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I'm not 100% of the year for the Riveria turbo but it was the T-type and an easy was to tell a Riv T-type were amber parking lens under the headlights and special turbine wheels.

The 78' Regal and LeSabre turbos I believe were called Sport Coupes, pretty sure I'm remembering this correctly, I'm not looking it up because I wanna use my automotive brain muscles

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Klasse Act said:
I'm not 100% of the year for the Riveria turbo but it was the T-type and an easy was to tell a Riv T-type were amber parking lens under the headlights and special turbine wheels.
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S-Type. I'm not sure why I don't remember these early Buick turbos, in my mind it was more in the GN era, but I'm obviously wrong. It's not like I was anti-turbo, I worked with a guy who had a '79 Capri with the turbo, and for a while my dream car was an '80 Cobra with the turbo (sorry to you V-8 Mustang purists) since the '79 Indy Pace Car Replica wasn't something you could really get. The picture is from a '79 Buick brochure.

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DUBL0WS6 said:
If you finished that with a rotary that is impressive.
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I definitely tried, with a Flex cordless rotary and waffle jeweling pad, but I couldn’t make it work.

I wanted that bragging right, I’m not gonna lie.

Finished with the Flex Cordless gear driven on speed 3 with an LC force Red pad and 3D One.


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Eric7810 said:
I definitely tried, with a Flex cordless rotary and waffle jeweling pad, but I couldn’t make it work.

I wanted that bragging right, I’m not gonna lie.

Finished with the Flex Cordless gear driven on speed 3 with an LC force Red pad and 3D One.


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Thank you for the correction, to make it more confusing they did use T-type on the Rivs in the mid 80's

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Klasse Act said:
Thank you for the correction, to make it more confusing they did use T-type on the Rivs in the mid 80's
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No thanks required, I didn't remember an S Type either, and by the mid-to-late-80's they had a T-Type of every model, as I recall. I remember getting to take a long test drive in a LeSabre T-Type, but that's a long weird story. Buick really was doing cool stuff back in that era when Lloyd Reuss was GM, I wonder what would have happened to the company if he hadn't been passed over to replace Roger Smith, in favor of Bob Stempel, who didn't last long in the job. Of course Reuss might have been ousted too, for decades GM was dominated by bean counters, at least they are back to having a car gal as CEO.

Hey Eric, sorry we're thread-jacking you to reminisce. You should tell us about your Z-28.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
What '81-'82 GM car wasn't a dog? They were struggling with the new EPA regs and trying to get the CCC/MCS carbs to work. That might have gone on thru '83 & '84 where everything was a dog until they started with the MFI in '85.
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I was referring to the TA's with the 301 turbo. 81 (and maybe 80, too?). I remember test driving one years ago and it just seemed terrible, even for the era. The turbo V6's Buick put in the T-Type and GN/GNX were much better than that 301CU Pontiac.
 
Nice job.

My first car was an 87 IROC w/ 350.
Biggest POS. I was a dumb 16yr old and all I thought was "Big V8, good."
Transmission went out about a month after I bought it, suspension was completely worn out, engine rarely ran good, was missing rear sway bar., tires were trash.....and the beat goes on.
That car turned me off Chevy ever since even though I didn't do my homework on it.

My Aunt/Uncle on the other hand also had an 87 IROC, but theirs was pristine.
When they sold it a few years ago it had something like 15k miles. Sat in the garage on carpet squares most of it's life.
 
Odrapnew said:
Nice job.

My first car was an 87 IROC w/ 350.
Biggest POS. I was a dumb 16yr old and all I thought was "Big V8, good."
Transmission went out about a month after I bought it, suspension was completely worn out, engine rarely ran good, was missing rear sway bar., tires were trash.....and the beat goes on.
That car turned me off Chevy ever since even though I didn't do my homework on it.

My Aunt/Uncle on the other hand also had an 87 IROC, but theirs was pristine.
When they sold it a few years ago it had something like 15k miles. Sat in the garage on carpet squares most of it's life.
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The 87 was rare with the 350 because it was put in the car late in the model year.

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Odrapnew said:
Nice job.

My first car was an 87 IROC w/ 350.
Biggest POS. I was a dumb 16yr old and all I thought was "Big V8, good."
Transmission went out about a month after I bought it, suspension was completely worn out, engine rarely ran good, was missing rear sway bar., tires were trash.....and the beat goes on.

My Aunt/Uncle on the other hand also had an 87 IROC, but theirs was pristine.
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Yeah, but that's the thing, some other 16 yo had that car before you and beat the crap out of it--that happened to all the Z-28's and Trans Ams. I remember looking into the service area at the Pontiac dealer and virtually every car up on the lift was a Trans Am, blown trans, etc.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Yeah, but that's the thing, some other 16 yo had that car before you and beat the crap out of it--that happened to all the Z-28's and Trans Ams. I remember looking into the service area at the Pontiac dealer and virtually every car up on the lift was a Trans Am, blown trans, etc.
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Oh, that I know.
It was ~10yrs old when I bought it and I'm pretty sure it went through every MN winter since new.
As they say, it was ridden hard and put away wet.
I should have known better when the used car dealer put up a huge stink about letting my mom take it for a test drive because the dealer 'didn't have insurance on it.'
Live and learn.

Sorry Eric about derailing the thread, just brings back (bad) memories. :)
 
Klasse Act said:
The 87 was rare with the 350 because it was put in the car late in the model year.

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It was 86 that the 350 got dropped in the IROC and some Trans Ams in very very small numbers. 87 got it as an option out of the gate I believe. There seems to be more 87 f-bodies with 350s than 305 when looking around. They were always a year at least behind the Corvette. Vette got the crossfire injection in small numbers in the last of the 3rd gen Vettes didn't they? 82? Then the F-bodies got it in small numbers in 82 in a 305. Vette got the 5.7 crossfire in 84, then TPI 350 in 85 while the F-bodies got the 305 with TPI as an option only with the auto trans that year. 86 there was a limited run of 350s for the f-boys and in 87 it went full option. 92 Vette got the LT-1 and F-boys got it in the new 4th gen in 93. Vette got the LS1 in 97 and F-boys got it in 98. Always de-tuned from the Vette all those years.
I think it wasn't till the last decade they kept some of the power the same in the mills right?? The LT4 was 650hp across the board right (Vette ZL-1, CTV)? And some other mills.
 
Yeah, it was always like that, Silly Rabbit, you couldn't show up the 'Vette. It was mentioned in this thread about T/A's, but in another thread we were talking about that GNx with the ceramic turbo and the published HP was way less than actual because the actual was higher than the Corvette. They used to make up stuff in the 90's about why the Firebird HP was less than the Corvette, "more restrictive intake" etc. I thought about buying one of those sleeper Formula's with a 6-spd in the late 90's, gas station I went to had one that the owner was selling on consignment, he said it was the quickest car he'd ever driven.
 
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