Got rid of my Overpriced Karcher PW and bought a Cheap Ryobi & Upgraded it... way better setup!!

Oh, good to know. I'll look around. :)

I *was* wondering why I wasn't getting the kind of foam that I see in other photos, even after
several different shampoos w/ my sunjoe 3001. Also, I'm hoping the shampoo charge lasts a
bit longer than w/ the stock orifice (always seemed to run out faster than I thought it would)
 
I had some limited success with increasing the amount of certain soaps I used in my cannon with my cheapo lowe's special Greenworks 1600/1.2.


That's no longer an issue with my new AR610 1350/1.9, though I probably will go with a PF22/1.1mm combo when I get tired of this standard chemical guys foam cannon that I paid way too much for.
 
Alright. I tried a second time. Replaced w a Ryobi 1.2 gpm 1700 psi unit. It’s a little bigger than the one I had but at least it hasn’t blown up on me yet.

First off,I love my mosmatic gun w swivel. Looks good,doesn’t get tangled, and looks like a quality piece.

Second, the pressure washer and factory gun/wand work well for pressure washing my patio :).

Third, foamability is not living up to my expectations. I have a brand new mtm foam canon and have tried various settings. I also use Chemical Guys Honey Dew soap. Have super weak suds at best. Pretty much equivalent to my foam gun that works w a garden hose.

I’ll keep messing around w this setup to see if I can improve my foam. Otherwise I wasted good money on my mosmatic and mtm foam cannon cause there was no need for them if I don’t get the foam.

That's very odd... I also use a 1700 PSI unit and never had issues with the foam. I don't even use soaps designed for foam guns, I just use my regular car soap, car soap with wax, car soap mixed with dawn. All 3 foam very well. Maybe your foam cannon is defective?
 
1700/1.2 is a little low on the flow side. I think you have 2 problems.

1.) the orifice is likely one intended for a more powerful gas pw

2.) you may want to up your soap concentration in the bottle. Run the cannon with the blades closed and the mixing dial all the way to the right (highest concentration)

Also, do you happen to have it running with an extension cord? If so try it with a larger gauge cord or direct to power. Small gauge extension cords can and will reduce your electric pw output


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I would like to stick with the original ryobi hose for the time being. What adapter coupler is needed to connect to the new gun?

And can anyone recommend a budget friendly 25' hose with 3/8 ends?
 
I would like to stick with the original ryobi hose for the time being. What adapter coupler is needed to connect to the new gun?

And can anyone recommend a budget friendly 25' hose with 3/8 ends?

try Kleenrite... you can order any of these with whatever ends you would like crimped on. I have several of their hoses at various lengths. All are very high quality and very easy to manage.

Car Wash High Pressure Hose - High Pressure Water Hose Car Wash - 1/4 High Pressure Hose For Car Wash
 
dumb question but on the gun the MTM site video shows him putting the swivel right onto the gun then the female coupler, this would mean that the hose would have to have the male plug. however your setup and matt from OG seem to have the male plug off the handle of the gun. What am i missing im getting confused now.


These connections dont match the pick in your PDF?
MTM Hydro Updated 100 Foot Kobrajet Hose | High Pressure Washing Hoses | Kleen-Rite

heres the video from MTM with it the opposite.
AG Live Swivel - MTM Hydro Parts
 
The Karcher X Series...
About 4 years ago I bought a Karcher X Series (K5.540) , 2000 PSI, 1.4 GPM unit (product link) to be used for car washing. This was my first electric pressure washer, and I figured I would buy the "top of the line" expensive model so I wouldn't have any regrets later. Well, I screwed up....


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The Karcher unit was... fine. I mean it sprayed water at higher pressure, so I suppose it functioned, but after fighting with it for so long, that is about the only good thing I can say about it. The hose was a stiff, cheap product that would never lay flat. It always tried to retain the coiled up shape even when it was uncoiled. Thanks to Karcher's unique connections, the only option that I had found to replace the hose was with another Karcher hose... so I was stuck with it. The spray gun and wand were also cheap, flimsy products. The variable pressure wand is a nice idea, however I only utilized the widest fan setting, so the variable settings were not needed by any means. Again, thanks to the Karcher connections, I was also stuck with this gun. Due to these proprietary connections, I also had to purchase an adapter to allow me to use my foam cannons with this sprayer. The attachment on the PW body to hold the gun while it was being stored fell off regularly, as did the hook to hang the extension cord on. This was an issue from day one. Very cheaply made, poorly designed pieces. In the end, it was the power cord that gave up on me, and instead of spending $20 to fix it, I sold the entire unit for $30 on craigslist. I just wanted it gone. Time to start over.




My inspiration...
I had watched some videos by Matt on Obsessed Garage where he went over a lot of the research he had done on pressure washer fittings, wands, guns, hoses, etc. and I became intrigued. I knew my next setup needed to incorporate some higher end components (hose and gun, specifically) so I would not have the same complaints as I did with the Karcher unit. I have always been a fan of the MTM Foam Cannons, so I spent some time on their site and the OG site checking out fittings, hoses, and guns. I liked what I saw so I decided to get to work....




The Cheap Ryobi...
I went to my local home depot and picked up the cheapest pressure washer they had. A 1600 PSI, 1.2 GPM Ryobi unit (product link). This unit retails for $119, but I had a coupon and got it for $101 + tax. I knew I would not be using the included hose or gun, I just needed the unit itself. This little thing is a great, compact size. It is very lightweight and easy to move around, unlike the overweight karcher unit I had previously.




Upgrading the Ryobi...
The output of the Ryobi PW is an M22 male thread where the supplied Ryobi hose would typically connect. Since I would not be using this hose, I needed to convert the M22 thread to a 3/8" coupler as that is a common size found on most higher end hoses. From there I needed the use the appropriate fittings to connect the hose to the pressure washer, and the hose to my new MTM SG-28 Spray Gun. A 1/4" coupler was added to the output of the spray gun to allow for easy changes between spray nozzles and foam cannons. The following photo shows the full layout of parts. Click here to download the PDF with links to all parts and a 2nd option to upgrade your hose and gun.
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Some of the parts once they arrived....
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Just put the new setup to the test today, and I am very pleased!!!


(Used with MTM Hydro PF22 Foam Cannon and Optimum Car Wash. 40* Nozzle used for rinsing)
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Initial Impressions of the New Setup...
Man is it nice to have a 50' hose! Man is it nice to have a hose that doesn't get twisted and tangled! Man is it nice to have a PW that doesn't fall over!


Alright, so I do not have a hose reel on this new unit. This means I have to connect and disconnect the high pressure hose each time I use it which adds a couple of minutes to my job, but I sort of prefer it this way. The PW unit remains very compact and lightweight without the hose reel. I simply roll up my hose and hang it on a hook inside my garage above the pressure washer, just like I do with my garden hose. My foam lance and spray gun have spots on my pegboard.


The SG-28 spray gun is very nice. While it is still a completely plastic body, the build quality is much better than the Karcher gun. It just feels sturdy. There isn't a bunch of play in the trigger.

The MTM nozzles with the appropriately selected orifice size are fantastic!! It feels like this 1600 PSI unit has a much stronger stream than the 2000 PSI karcher did. I think the Karcher spray wand was the limiting factor there.

The connectors and fittings are very solid. No leaks, and no issues connecting or disconnecting anything during setup, use, and tear down.




At the end of the day, I spent less money on this new setup than I did on the Karcher several years ago. I feel the Ryobi (or other similar inexpensive unit) with the upgraded components is absolutely the right way to go for consumer setups! So far I'm very happy with my switch.

From your concept about Karcher, really I am hopeless. Recently I have decided to buy a pressure washer for my cleaning job. But I can't get a decision, what I should buy.

I am a new user and I have found you as an experienced user of the Pressure washer. You want to buy the "Ryobi 1,600 PSI 1.2-GPM Electric Pressure Washer" but it is unavailable on Amazon. Can you suggest me any review for Ryobi 1600 PSI? Or I have found a review about GreenWorks 1600 PSI. Let me know about your user experience for GreenWorks. Please check the review and get me a solution GreenWorks 1600 PSI Reviews in 2018-Best Pressure Washer.
 
Just wanted to update. I've been using the Zach/Ryobi set up for about two months. Have used it at least once a week since putting it together, runs like a champ. The 50ft hose really makes it easier, I have to move it 3ft from where I store the unit, plug it in and put the hoses on and can go around a car in the drive way with ease. In a way I am glad my Karcher died, if it hadn't, I'd still be dealing with it!
 
Obsessed garage recently did a video review of all the Ryobi washers. I’m confused now because if you use the online nozzle calculators they indicate a 2.0 nozzle, but Matt decided on 3.0 nozzles.

Really glad this thread is here. I can’t justify a kranzle, but a ryobi is doable. Upgrade as per instructions and we have a nice solution.
 
Obsessed garage recently did a video review of all the Ryobi washers. I’m confused now because if you use the online nozzle calculators they indicate a 2.0 nozzle, but Matt decided on 3.0 nozzles.

Really glad this thread is here. I can’t justify a kranzle, but a ryobi is doable. Upgrade as per instructions and we have a nice solution.

Yes, he is testing all of the major brands: Ryobi, greenworks, Kartcher, Sun Joe and AR. Excellent serie!

As for the nozzle, Matt wants to get about 1000 PSI at the nozzle. That is why he is testing various nozzle sizes. By default all the pressure washers are outputing about 1500 PSI with the nozzle they come with.

If anyone is planning to either purchase a pressure washer or upgrade one to a better hose/gun setup, I would strongly suggest they watch these videos.

 
I’ve watched all the videos, and yup I get that he wants 1000 at the nozzle. I always have trouble putting into words what is in my head. I’ll try again....

Matt uses a 3.0 nozzle with the ryobi washers to achieve 1000 psi. BUT..... all of the online calculators say to use 2.0 (actually 1.9) nozzles.

My question is, would this calculation be to achieve a “factory” pressure for the washers?
 
I’ve watched all the videos, and yup I get that he wants 1000 at the nozzle. I always have trouble putting into words what is in my head. I’ll try again....

Matt uses a 3.0 nozzle with the ryobi washers to achieve 1000 psi. BUT..... all of the online calculators say to use 2.0 (actually 1.9) nozzles.

My question is, would this calculation be to achieve a “factory” pressure for the washers?

I never used any of those calculators. But since real life testing shows a big difference, maybe the calculator is flawed?

Honestly, I don't think dropping the pressure to 1000 PSI is needed. Matt says it's much safer. I have used pressure washers for several years now and never had any issue at 1700 PSI using a 15 degree nozzle. I will be ordering a 40 degree nozzle when is testing is done on a unit similar to the one I use just to try it out. I don't know how much cleaning power I would use doing that, but I am willing to give it a try.
 
I run a 2.0 orifice nozzle with my SPX3000 and feel the pressure is perfect for car washing. I too tested PSI levels with every orifice size MTM offers and i liked the 2.0 the most (for my needs).

My results:
25 deg tip with 2.0 orifice = 1300psi
40 deg tip with 2.0 orifice = 1400psi

Running the unit down at 1000psi with a 3.0 orifice didn't really do much (for me) as far as cleaning ability... especially in the wheel wells and down on the lower side skirts where dirt can really build up.
 
I don’t think the calculators are wrong, and I don’t think Matt is,wrong.

But I’ve read that you use the proper nozzle according to the calculator because you can damage the pump otherwise
 
I run a 2.0 orifice nozzle with my SPX3000 and feel the pressure is perfect for car washing. I too tested PSI levels with every orifice size MTM offers and i liked the 2.0 the most (for my needs).

My results:
25 deg tip with 2.0 orifice = 1300psi
40 deg tip with 2.0 orifice = 1400psi

Running the unit down at 1000psi with a 3.0 orifice didn't really do much (for me) as far as cleaning ability... especially in the wheel wells and down on the lower side skirts where dirt can really build up.

Matt was explaining that cleaning power is (flow X pressure) so no matter what nozzle you put on it, the cleaning power should be the same. Dropping pressure to increase flow or vice versa should yield the same result in the end. The one thing you do loose with lowering pressure is that you can no longer clean a hard to remove dirt patch if needed.

I am eager to see how the Kranzla (SP?) performs compared to the other ones.
 
Anyone using this setup know if the swivel attachment on the hose is sufficient for a fixed end gun or if a swivel end gun would be needed or better. I see the OP bought the fixed end gun

Steve


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I think a lot of newer people might be taking and following OG’s methods as if it were gospel. I think there are some good ideas to be taken from his videos but everyone needs to remember he is a salesman/business and not a prof detailer or makes a living detailing. Not saying there’s anything wrong with that but it’s s fact his videos are made to other brands he sells.
 
I think a lot of newer people might be taking and following OG’s methods as if it were gospel. I think there are some good ideas to be taken from his videos but everyone needs to remember he is a salesman/business and not a prof detailer or makes a living detailing. Not saying there’s anything wrong with that but it’s s fact his videos are made to other brands he sells.

I agree. He really pushes super expensive equipment and products. There is nothing wrong with it but if he wants to sell me a 1200$ pressure washer, he better shows me some insane results he cannot get with the affordable ones. I asked him about it in the comments and he kinda took offense. I asked why pay for a 1300$ setup when a 300$ setup works perfectly well even in a commercial environment. He replied that by the same logic he should not get a Porshe GT3 and stick with a Hyundai Elantra. So I am really curious to see how the Kranzla (SP?) performs. After watching a bunch of his videos I know I want to upgrade my hose (again) and put a swivel on the gun. My brand of pressure washer (Simoniz) is not sold in the US so he won't test it, but I am fairly certain they are made by Karcher for the Canadian Tires stores.

The goal of these videos is to know what fittings are required to upgrade each model of pressure washers. He is right about the basic setup being very poor. A longer hose is a must and those long wands the units come with are annyoing to use a foam lance with. Swivels also make using them much less annoying. Quick connects on the hose and gun also look like a good idea but I would not say it's as important, at least for me. I see no reason to disconnect the hoses or the gun unless they are broken.
 
Nothing wrong with an Elantra.

He’s selling a stainless steel cart for the kranzle. 400 bucks, lol. That’s absolutely insane. Nonetheless he’s pretty detailed on his videos.

I like the shorter garden hoses he sells. Does anyone know where I can buy shorter lengths for power washer hook up, and bucket filling?
 
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