Griot's 3 inch, or small plate and pads?

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So I'm considering getting the Griot's 3 inch polisher. I'm also thinking about just getting a 4 inch plate and pads for the full size. It almost seems more cost effective to get the small polisher, but I'm wondering what you guys think?
 
So I'm considering getting the Griot's 3 inch polisher. I'm also thinking about just getting a 4 inch plate and pads for the full size. It almost seems more cost effective to get the small polisher, but I'm wondering what you guys think?

I have owned the 3 inch for about 3 years - it is great with the polishing pads to apply waxes and sealants - it is not strong enuf to do any type of swirl correction or compounds to any great degree. If you want to do correction, stick with the larger orbitals and use a smaller plate.

that being said it is so nice to use the 3", with one hand stretching on a roof to spread your fav product....great for vehicle front ends too....
 
I have owned the 3 inch for about 3 years - it is great with the polishing pads to apply waxes and sealants - it is not strong enuf to do any type of swirl correction or compounds to any great degree. If you want to do correction, stick with the larger orbitals and use a smaller plate.

that being said it is so nice to use the 3", with one hand stretching on a roof to spread your fav product....great for vehicle front ends too....

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The new Griots 3" is much more powerful. It is almost as powerful as the Porter Cable is with a 5.5 pad if not more powerful. It takes a TON of pressure to stop the 3" pads.

The old version was a joke! I aabsolutely love the 3" Griots!
 
I vote GG 3" for a few reasons, and I'll tell ya why...

1.) the 3" always has a 3" plate, and is ready to roll right away.

2.) the housing is smaller, and it fits better in tight spaces

3.) it's fantastic for headlight restores


It's a great tool. The 3" pads on the larger DAs just doesn't feel the same. Not too mention the machines are over powered for 3" pads IMO.

The GG 3" is well balanced. It just feels right to me.
 
Sounds like going with the 3 inch buffer is the way to go. Most of the reasons I had for wanting one are exactly why everyone seems to like theirs.
 
I was disappointing in my 3". 3 cars later and it started having issues with the on/off switch? Never once dropped it and now you have to flick the switch to on rather than slid it to generate a connection, sometimes that fails...strange. I suppose I should have contacted Griot's right away as the new model also came out one month later :(

I agree with the above, it is not that great for paint work but good for applications.

-Justin
 
I was disappointing in my 3". 3 cars later and it started having issues with the on/off switch? Never once dropped it and now you have to flick the switch to on rather than slid it to generate a connection, sometimes that fails...strange. I suppose I should have contacted Griot's right away as the new model also came out one month later :(

I agree with the above, it is not that great for paint work but good for applications.

-Justin

Well as you know or may not know, its covered under their lifetime warrenty, they might just send you back the new model, worth a shot. I've had nothing but positive experiences with them, so you should be happy when you send it back.

I find it to be a great too, in tight spots its awesome and IMO, its pretty damn strong and does a good job on the type of paint correction I need it for, anything worse, I'll just pull out the 6" and TCB:props:
 
Thanks Sir...I actually forgot completely about the warranty being lifetime!
 
Here some info...

Dampsanding with 3" Griot's Garage Mini Polisher


Blown 1934 Ford Pick-up - Show Car Makeover - Modeled by Kristin


This is me working on the window frames...
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Machine polishing the visor using the Griot's Garage 3" Mini Polisher...
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The 3" Mini Polisher with a 3" Red Waxing pad works perfect on the front frame rails...
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Machine waxing the paint in front of the engine...
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Machine waxing the painted steel radiator tube...
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The new Griots 3" is much more powerful. It is almost as powerful as the Porter Cable is with a 5.5 pad if not more powerful. It takes a TON of pressure to stop the 3" pads.

The old version was a joke! I aabsolutely love the 3" Griots!

Is there a way to tell for sure which version I have? I recently purchased the 3" Griot's and it does bog down with the slightest bit of pressure. Needless to say I am severely disappointed in this product right now.
 
The new Griots 3" is much more powerful. It is almost as powerful as the Porter Cable is with a 5.5 pad if not more powerful. It takes a TON of pressure to stop the 3" pads.

The old version was a joke! I aabsolutely love the 3" Griots!

i would have to disagree, i can stop the GG3 more easily than the PC with 5.5" pads. not to mention, you'l get more correction with the PC as well. YMMV i guess...
 
Is there a way to tell for sure which version I have? I recently purchased the 3" Griot's and it does bog down with the slightest bit of pressure. Needless to say I am severely disappointed in this product right now.

this is the current version...
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i would rather have the 1" Random Orbital it's much more powerful. just listen to the sound clip... :D
Griot's Garage 1" Cordless Random Orbital
 
Is there a way to tell for sure which version I have? I recently purchased the 3" Griot's and it does bog down with the slightest bit of pressure. Needless to say I am severely disappointed in this product right now.

Ditto to this response. I just got mine a few months ago, and it looks just like the one pictured above. Any amount of pressure and it stops spinning. As stated previously, if you only want to apply waxes and sealants, it is probably ok. But if you want to use it for correcting, you may be disappointed too.
 
The Griot's 3" Mini Polisher doesn't have the power to do any major correction work like most think of doing on their car. I'm going to guess it has to do with mass and inertia of the rotating components in the drive mechanism that makes it too easy for the leverage the pads have to stop the pad from rotating when too much pressure is applied.

That said, they can do correction work and allow me to prove it with post I made back in November of 2009




Note the below was done with a medium cut polish, I could have done the work faster and easier with anytime more aggressive but wanted to prove what could be done by not using a true compound. Also, these were "hand" sanding marks, machine sanding marks are always easier to remove when using the same grit level.


Griot's Garage 3" Mini Polisher - Extreme Demo - Warning!

Warning! Please don't try this on your own car.


I've had a number of people ask me about the power offered by the new Generation II Griot's Garage 3" Mini Polisher and so after scratching my head and trying to think of some kind of demonstration I could do and then share the pictures from I came up with the below Extreme Demo.

Please understand, it's only common sense that this 3" Mini Polisher is not made for or intended to be used to remove sanding marks out of clear coat paints. In a best "worst case" scenario, you would finish out with #3000 or #4000 grit paper. I chose #2000 to make it extreme.

This 3" polisher definitely has more power than the first generation offered by Griot's Garage but it's not for removing sanding marks, it's for removing light surface defects with an emphasis on the word LIGHT. It can also be used for applying wax or paint sealant to small or thin panels or for things like Motorcycles.

Note: There are more aggressive products you can use and it's possible to make a more aggressive 3" pad but in my life I've noticed when working with small pads like this there's a tendency for increased potential for haze and micro-marring when getting small. It is important to keep the surface slippery for this kind of defect removal.

And for what it's worth... I've been doing this for a few years and sometimes a little experience in the craft of polishing paint can go a long ways...


Without further ado...
The polisher on the left is the first generation, the polisher on the right is the new Generation II Griot's Garage 3" Mini Polisher. I chose the Wolfgang Twins because they are both very wet products and you need hyper-lubricity to help aid in pad rotation when removing below surface defects, or in other words to remove a little paint.

Meguiar's #2000 Nikken Finishing Papers were used to give me an extreme test section and I used the Griot's Garage foam polishing and waxing pads for sanding mark removal and final polishing.

Not pictured is the Detailers Pride Max Wax which I applied after polishing
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One section of the test hood was thoroughly wet-sanded using Nikken #2000 Finishing Papers
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If you look closely you can see a few very light tracers, in the REAL World, anytime you're doing sanding you would remove the sanding marks using a rotary buffer and/or a DA Polisher if you have the knowledge and skill to use these two types of tools for this type of work. You would not use nor expect these kinds of dramatic results from the tool I used but I'll let the results speak for themselves.

After results
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Nikken reflection shot
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Flipped horizontally...
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In this shot I'm actually focusing on the sanding marks between the wall poster and the reflection of the wall poster.
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In this shot I'm focusing on the reflected image...
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In this shot you can see the subtle distinction between the seam in the poster in the reflected image.
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And a self-portraight... :D
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Question: Does the new Griot's Garage 3" Mini Polisher have more power?

Answer: You betcha!


Should it be the only polisher in your detailing arsenal? No not at all. It's a nice complimentary tool for thin panels, small components, motorcycle detailing and anything else you can find a use for it.


Products shown
Griot's Garage 3" Mini Polisher
3-Pack of 3" Polishing Pads - You want lots of these, 2-3 packs
3" Waxing Pads
Wolfgang Total Swirl Remover 3.0
Wolfgang Finishing Glaze
Nikken Finishing Papers
Meguiar's E-7200 Backing Pad
 
Here's where I think the 3" Griot's Mini Polisher excels and that's as a dampsander either for paint or for HEADLIGHTS

Dampsanding with 3" Griot's Garage Mini Polisher


Dampsanding
This is a match made in car detailing heaven. This mini dual action polisher works flawlessly as a 3" dampsander. It makes sanding close to edges safe and easy. It makes sanding small thin panels faster and easier.

With this combination of polisher and 3" sanding disc with an interface pad for conforming to the shape of the panel you can quickly and easily sand out a minor or small defect with surgical precision in an isolated area with only a small footprint.


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Removing Sanding Marks
The Griot's Garage 3" Mini Polisher is also able to rotate the Meguiar's microfiber discs. This is a 3" microfiber cutting disc removing #3000 Unigrit dampsanding marks.

It works but it's so much faster and effective to learn how to use a rotary buffer if you're going to sand down and buff out an entire car. If you're just doing spot repair then it's doable.

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Meguiars Unigrit 3 Inch Finishing Discs


I can't recommend enough getting the Griot's Garage 3" Mini Polisher


Griot's Garage 3" Mini Polisher

Note: Make sure you get a couple of 3" Interface Pads you want this for contours and curved panels.


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Yet another example...

Griot's 3" Mini Polisher works great as a 3" Dampsander


Most people don't need to wetsand and probably shouldn't wetsand but if you're ever working on a project that requires sanding then do yourself a favor and get yourself a Griot's Garage 3" Mini Polisher and then get the Meguiar's 3" Unigrit Finishing Discs and the 3" Interface Pad and you're going to love what this little tool can do.


Here's a few pictures from our recent Wetsanding Project where we machine dampsanded my friend Jay's 1989 K5 Blazer which you're going to see on the 2nd Season of our TV show, What's in the Garage".

Because the 3" sanding and finishing discs have such a small footprint the are EASY to control so you can sand close to edges or tape lines with accuracy.

If you're NEW to any type of sanding, the Griot's 3" Mini Polisher used as 3" Dampsander is a great way to learn and increase your confidence in the art of machine sanding.


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End results...

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Meguiars Unigrit 3 Inch Finishing Discs
I can't recommend enough getting the Griot's Garage 3" Mini Polisher


Griot's Garage 3" Mini Polisher

Note: Make sure you get a couple of 3" Interface Pads you want this for contours and curved panels.
 
And key to getting good rotation with this small and less powerful of a tool is to use thin pads so you less material absorbing and dissipating the power coming out of the tool...

For example the Meguiar's and Optimum Microfiber 3" discs all rotate pretty well as they are thinner and harder than a foam buffing pad.


1954 Ford F-100 - Extreme Makeover - Process and products used


This is me tackling the iconic front grill using the Griot's Garage 3" Mini Polisher using an Optimum 3.25" Microfiber Pad with Hyper-Polish.

I now the question everyone wants to ask and here is the answer...

YES the 3" Mini Polisher was able to maintain pad rotation. I started with the upper potions and worked downward and wiped the residue off as I worked... look how shiny and glossy the paint is after using the 3" Mini Polisher. The 3" Mini Polisher also makes a great Dampsander for spot repair.

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