Guess what the postman brought me today?
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Dr_Pain
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Well BLOW ME DOWN!!!!
Check what I just saw from Nick's most recent post.....
SON1C Wax Carnaubavore
Now talk about a show of support!!!!! This is why I LOVE AG and our fellow geekers!:dblthumb2:
Im the MAN:buffing:
Check what I just saw from Nick's most recent post.....
SON1C Wax Carnaubavore
Now talk about a show of support!!!!! This is why I LOVE AG and our fellow geekers!:dblthumb2:
Im the MAN:buffing:
FUNX650
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I agree with you Dr. Pain...
As well as share in the below sentiments of Mike, found in the link you provided above!!!
Fantastic!!
Bob
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Thanks for the question pickles! As I mentioned before, it is unlike any wax I have ever tried. Let me try to summarize my experience (and statements I have made in previous reviews)
1) It is a HARD wax! The newer formulation does seem to have a little more give but it is a dense, heavy in the hand wax. Without actual weights I would say it feels close in weight (if not heavier in hand) to the 8oz pot of Pete 53 I have (and that is considering that it is a 4.3oz pot.
One of the benefit of this hard wax is that you can pop it out of the pot and load it much easier to a pad if you choose to machine apply (which I have yet to do)
2) A little goes a long way! I would equate that statement to the statement made (and the reality of) Collonite #845. I've made the mistake early on to load up the applicator and go crazy as I normally do with regular paste wax. You can't and should not do that unless you want to buff out the residue for a while (and waste a lot of product).
3) WOWO!. I've experimented with both the "wax on wipe off", as well as, the "let it haze" method and either method produces the same results. My normal mode though is to wax the whole car and walk away to go drink a Gatorade. I don't know if it is just because I live in South Louisiana (heat and humidity) but I have yet to see a true hazing from the product (no finger swipe test for me so far... maybe during winter months?). I would also like to share that a warm panel does help spread the product easier (which is never a problem for me in the deep South)
4) In the sun or in the shade! I've used the wax in the sun and in the shade, and was amazed. It is so counter-intuitive to wax in direct sunlight, but it was fun! (and worked on my tan!).
Could I compare it to anything I have tried? It does remind me of some fancy hard European wax I had tried "back in the days" (as far as the hard dense texture), but that "old wax" was a pain to remove because it dried as hard as a turtle shell. Son1cwax did not dry and was easy to remove. I do have to admit that when I "loaded" the panel (using too much product) it was a pain to remove, but a little adjusting to my heavy handed technique helped a lot..... and the trick shared by Drew of using a QD spritz made it even easier to wipe off (not that you could not wipe it off without the QD). Did I mention that the wax smell ridiculously good?
In terms of looks and bead and shedding, Son1cwax is very comparable compare to my experience with Pete 53 or CG5050. Durability on the other hand goes to Son1cwax (see previous review). Your mileage may and will vary since I am dealing with a rather harsh climate for any paste wax (heat, humidity, torrential downpour, chemicals spraying (sugarcane industry) etc....), but mark my word when I say that it will exceed your expectation of an all natural wax. The only way to improve on that is to go hybrid!.
I hope this answers your question!
1) It is a HARD wax! The newer formulation does seem to have a little more give but it is a dense, heavy in the hand wax. Without actual weights I would say it feels close in weight (if not heavier in hand) to the 8oz pot of Pete 53 I have (and that is considering that it is a 4.3oz pot.
One of the benefit of this hard wax is that you can pop it out of the pot and load it much easier to a pad if you choose to machine apply (which I have yet to do)
2) A little goes a long way! I would equate that statement to the statement made (and the reality of) Collonite #845. I've made the mistake early on to load up the applicator and go crazy as I normally do with regular paste wax. You can't and should not do that unless you want to buff out the residue for a while (and waste a lot of product).
3) WOWO!. I've experimented with both the "wax on wipe off", as well as, the "let it haze" method and either method produces the same results. My normal mode though is to wax the whole car and walk away to go drink a Gatorade. I don't know if it is just because I live in South Louisiana (heat and humidity) but I have yet to see a true hazing from the product (no finger swipe test for me so far... maybe during winter months?). I would also like to share that a warm panel does help spread the product easier (which is never a problem for me in the deep South)
4) In the sun or in the shade! I've used the wax in the sun and in the shade, and was amazed. It is so counter-intuitive to wax in direct sunlight, but it was fun! (and worked on my tan!).
Could I compare it to anything I have tried? It does remind me of some fancy hard European wax I had tried "back in the days" (as far as the hard dense texture), but that "old wax" was a pain to remove because it dried as hard as a turtle shell. Son1cwax did not dry and was easy to remove. I do have to admit that when I "loaded" the panel (using too much product) it was a pain to remove, but a little adjusting to my heavy handed technique helped a lot..... and the trick shared by Drew of using a QD spritz made it even easier to wipe off (not that you could not wipe it off without the QD). Did I mention that the wax smell ridiculously good?
In terms of looks and bead and shedding, Son1cwax is very comparable compare to my experience with Pete 53 or CG5050. Durability on the other hand goes to Son1cwax (see previous review). Your mileage may and will vary since I am dealing with a rather harsh climate for any paste wax (heat, humidity, torrential downpour, chemicals spraying (sugarcane industry) etc....), but mark my word when I say that it will exceed your expectation of an all natural wax. The only way to improve on that is to go hybrid!.
I hope this answers your question!
Been following the other thread very closely for a long time (even though I never posted in it) and bought a pot to show my support.
Having used both paste and liquid waxes, I actually prefer paste waxes believe it or not, and I love products that smell good so really excited to finally trying this out after reading about the process and different prototypes for so many months
Having used both paste and liquid waxes, I actually prefer paste waxes believe it or not, and I love products that smell good so really excited to finally trying this out after reading about the process and different prototypes for so many months
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Dr Pain,I had not seen or read any reviews on this wax but thank you for your review. I am now more tempted to buy especially when you say that removal was easy. The AG house brands all share an ease of removal which is something that the British waxes(Bouncer's, and AF) do not. Exception being DODO and Illusion. Thanks again for the review.
SON1C
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Thank you sir!
Thank you for the support sir!
:goodjob2:
Gotta support the little guys! :dblthumb2:
For a lot of reasons...
My wax ends up coming to 4-4.3 oz ~120+ ml as it's much harder to pin point the pours of large batches, essentially I'm trying to pack as much wax as I can into the container for the end user!
SON1C
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Always! I try to include as much wax as possible.
Although SON1C Wax Carnaubavore is ~4+ oz it weighs over 7 ounces, so when I say it is loaded with carnauba -- I mean it!
:dblthumb2::xyxthumbs:I agree with you Dr. Pain...
As well as share in the below sentiments of Mike, found in the link you provided above!!!
Fantastic!!
Bob
I will let some others chime in, however it is a unique wax. It is an all natural wax, which there are zero other all natural waxes stocked at AG to my understanding.
Many people find their own preferred way of use for Carnaubavore, I apply it thinly in circular motions (can be by bare hand, foam or microfiber applicator, or by machine) let it "haze" (it does not haze like typical waxes) for 10-15 minutes and then proceed to grab a quality microfiber towel, spritz it with QD or similar product and buff off excess wax.
thank youThat's awesome! Congrats DREW! Hard work does pay off
Eric@CherryOnTop
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I got pot # 030! Bought it the first day I heard it was available.
Regarding people who think it's too expensive or not good enough because it's not a "name brand" I want to say this...
Anyone who pays attention on the forum should be aware that many iterations of this wax were developed and sent out to others for testing and feedback. Drew didn't exactly have the budget of one of the big name brand product manufacturers, this was a labor of love. So you're not just paying for a pot of wax, you're paying for him to recoup some of that R&D investment money. Plus, this is at its most basic form how an economy works. A business minded entrepreneur with a genuine passion goes after his dream and creates something for other enthusiasts. I am happy to pay the premium for this wax to support that business model partially because I've seen what's gone into the development of this wax.
And to anyone who wants to argue that LSP doesn't have an effect on what a car looks like, I don't hear about you using the cheapest stuff you can find at the parts store. We've all seen what Claude did with the PW54 on the BMW and 69 Camaro, of course the polishing was done to perfection, but the LSP certainly helps.
On another note, I stuck my nose so far into the jar of this stuff taking a whiff of it I left a nose print in the wax. It smells so freakin' good....
hernandez.art13
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I agree with, wax does change the look.
Ekennet, would you mind PMing me the link. So I can buy it and help support. I'll even donate it "brand new" all I ask is a good review.
Art
Ekennet, would you mind PMing me the link. So I can buy it and help support. I'll even donate it "brand new" all I ask is a good review.
Art
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I will support!
cleanmycorolla
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So I purchased my wax. And one thing I will agree with Drew stated. Having the digital marker of quantity is so clutch. It's something I wish Bouncer did with his waxes, as "limited quantity" is vague, with this you know what you got and you're one of 800+.
I just wish we could request pot numbers. I placed my order on AG I'd have loved 818, 617 or 212 for the area codes I've lived and loved.
I can't wait to get my pot, and can't wait to get more. Drews a good dude and even if the 4oz pot was $100 I'd still buy it. He had passion for it!
I just wish we could request pot numbers. I placed my order on AG I'd have loved 818, 617 or 212 for the area codes I've lived and loved.
I can't wait to get my pot, and can't wait to get more. Drews a good dude and even if the 4oz pot was $100 I'd still buy it. He had passion for it!
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hernandez.art13
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^ Great thanks
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Just ordered mine!!!!! Im the MAN:dblthumb2:
SON1C
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Thanks for the elaborate response and kind words! I really do appreciate them. Money was never and will never be the focal point of this endeavor. I strive to deliver top quality products that are unique. I do this out of passion not greed!
I got pot # 030! Bought it the first day I heard it was available.
Regarding people who think it's too expensive or not good enough because it's not a "name brand" I want to say this...
Anyone who pays attention on the forum should be aware that many iterations of this wax were developed and sent out to others for testing and feedback. Drew didn't exactly have the budget of one of the big name brand product manufacturers, this was a labor of love. So you're not just paying for a pot of wax, you're paying for him to recoup some of that R&D investment money. Plus, this is at its most basic form how an economy works. A business minded entrepreneur with a genuine passion goes after his dream and creates something for other enthusiasts. I am happy to pay the premium for this wax to support that business model partially because I've seen what's gone into the development of this wax.
And to anyone who wants to argue that LSP doesn't have an effect on what a car looks like, I don't hear about you using the cheapest stuff you can find at the parts store. We've all seen what Claude did with the PW54 on the BMW and 69 Camaro, of course the polishing was done to perfection, but the LSP certainly helps.
On another note, I stuck my nose so far into the jar of this stuff taking a whiff of it I left a nose print in the wax. It smells so freakin' good....
I lol'd at the nose print onto the wax!
:dblthumb2: :dblthumb2: :dblthumb2:
I'm glad you enjoy the digital serialization
I accommodate everyone the best I can on pot numbers, they can be requested if I have them in stock just get in touch with me! I also surely have 818 and 617. I am not sure on the 212awesome! :dblthumb2:
Thanks for the support Adam
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I got #33 last night. Can't wait to try it out! Think I'll be buying a couple more for some buddies! I can't stop sniffing it haha
Sent from my XT907 using AG Online
Sent from my XT907 using AG Online