Heads Up So Cal Geeks: New Water Use Fines

My understanding was that the car washing fine applied to using hose without a shutoff nozzle like a pistol grip or firemans nozzle. I'll check it out and report back.
Also, try to stay on very friendly terms with your neighbors. Reporting of water use violations frequently comes from individuals.
 
Not trying to sound like a smart a**...having grown up in LA in the late 40's and 50's there was talk even back then that water was going to be a problem down the road.

Discounting the Mulholland (sp?) mess in the 30's, the talk of running various pipelines from 'here to there' was constantly a subject of news, conversations, editorials. But, folks just kept using it like it was never ending. Sadly, it has come around to bite us in the butt.

Bill
 
BillE said:
Not trying to sound like a smart a**...having grown up in LA in the late 40's and 50's there was talk even back then that water was going to be a problem down the road.

Discounting the Mulholland (sp?) mess in the 30's, the talk of running various pipelines from 'here to there' was constantly a subject of news, conversations, editorials. But, folks just kept using it like it was never ending. Sadly, it has come around to bite us in the butt.

Bill
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Whats crazier, is if you drive up the Grape Vine, you can see our water flow coming from north, to supply us down here. It is crazy. Open, man made trench with water chugging down....
 
I live in Orange County, CA....so far (will probably change) I have not experienced any issues. However, I am going to more of a rinse-less wash (not the ideal method for me but no choice) in the day time. I usually wash the car at night when most of the neighbors are inside. Again, I have set my garage so I can clean at night.

Good ol' California Land of the Fruits and Nuts. The most regulated, taxed, and liberal State. Oh well, not complaining just adapting.

Thanks for the heads up.
 
BillE said:
Not trying to sound like a smart a**...having grown up in LA in the late 40's and 50's there was talk even back then that water was going to be a problem down the road.

Discounting the Mulholland (sp?) mess in the 30's, the talk of running various pipelines from 'here to there' was constantly a subject of news, conversations, editorials. But, folks just kept using it like it was never ending. Sadly, it has come around to bite us in the butt.

Bill
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Water is not expensive enough to justify the tremendous amount of electricity to push it thru a pipeline.

Remember, a gallon of water weighs over 8lbs.
 
I have never lived in a area with water restrictions, so maybe I don't get it but...The city or whoever you get your water from has set a price per gallon or however they sell it to you. What do they care what you do with it? If I pay the going rate for a tomato does it really matter if I take it outside and eat it, or throw it on the ground just to see it splat? Even if it was the last tomato in the world that could do (insert what you want here) if I had the money does it matter if I use to to (insert what you did before) or toss it in the trash?
I paid for the gallon of water, if I want to wash my car with it, or dump it down the drain, or not buy it just because, does it really matter?
Again I am not trying to be a jerk, I just don't know. Can they really fine me for using the product I paid for in the matter I choose?
 
Coopers ST said:
I have never lived in a area with water restrictions, so maybe I don't get it but...The city or whoever you get your water from has set a price per gallon or however they sell it to you. What do they care what you do with it?
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Again I am not trying to be a jerk, I just don't know. Can they really fine me for using the product I paid for in the matter I choose?
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Hi Coopers. New California resident here.

On one hand I agree with you. I take "navy showers" so the water is only running for about 60 seconds total (~2 gallons) when I shower, which is not even every day (sorry if that's too much information). If a neighbor criticized me for washing my car, I would not hesitate to share my shower habits and ask if my 10-gallon car wash routine is really any of their business.

My household's water usage is less than 50% of the maximum that would be allowed if they started fining for overuse in our county, so why shouldn't I be allowed to wash my car?

But going back of your tomato analogy, if tomatoes were the only food that could keep people alive, and you were buying more than you needed for eating just to smash them on the ground, then yes, I think it would be reasonable to crack down on that behavior.

Right now where I live, we're not forbidden from watering lawns or washing cars, but there are some reasonable restrictions: hoses must have a trigger nozzle, you have to fix leaky sprinklers and pipes, you can only water ever other day, etc. Even in non-drought years, these are good practices to follow. After all, water doesn't just grow on trees.
 
I am surprised that CA has not started building massive water desalination plants. The rivers can only supply so much for the SoCal population...and taking some from neighbors.
 
"Can they really fine me for using the product I paid for in the matter I choose? "

They Can and They Will


They are the Government and they are here to help
 
Bunky said:
I am surprised that CA has not started building massive water desalination plants. The rivers can only supply so much for the SoCal population...and taking some from neighbors.
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Way too expensive

Uses a lot of Evil Electricity too
 
hmmm, wonder if it's going to makes it's way over here in the IE...
 
allenk4 said:
"Can they really fine me for using the product I paid for in the matter I choose? "

They Can and They Will


They are the Government and they are here to help
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Yes our wonderful Government here to help!! I just adopted 24 Central American Children!!

Crazy ain't it? Additionally, if Californians can't figure out why your electricity bill has gone up considerably in the last year is because the environmentalist and CA gov shut down San Onofre Power Plant because it was nuclear and could damage the environment.

So 35% of electricity is no longer produced because of our gov helping us!!

Do as I say NOT as I do said the environmentalist and gov

They are here to help
 
cleanmycorolla said:
Whats crazier, is if you drive up the Grape Vine, you can see our water flow coming from north, to supply us down here. It is crazy. Open, man made trench with water chugging down....
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I think I know what you are talking about, I saw it on Google maps and had to look it up...that's the reservoir thing where it flows down during the day and they pump it back at night?

allenk4 said:
Water is not expensive enough to justify the tremendous amount of electricity to push it thru a pipeline. Remember, a gallon of water weighs over 8lbs.
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See above. I think you have plenty of water pipelines...starting with the ones that pump the water out to LA from the mountains to the east.

Bunky said:
I am surprised that CA has not started building massive water desalination plants. The rivers can only supply so much for the SoCal population...and taking some from neighbors.
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allenk4 said:
Way too expensive. Uses a lot of Evil Electricity too
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Apparently you guys don't get the news that I do, they are building a large desalination plant in San Diego County:

Carlsbad Desalination Project | Home

San Diego County's first desalination plant is ahead of schedule - 10News.com KGTV ABC10 San Diego
 
Bunky said:
Time for Proposition 42.
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Not familiar with Prop 42


The much less expensive solution would be actually capturing more of the run-off from rain.

Los Angeles County has no coordinated program or funding to even capture the free stuff...let alone pay to pump water here or desalinate.
 
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