Home garage must-haves

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So we're home shopping. We currently have a 1 car garage. I've never had a garage in my life, but one of the few criteria I have for our new home is that it must have a 3 car garage. My truck likely won't fit in it unless we build a new home (not happening) but I do like to tinker, and hope that some day there will be a restoration project in there, probably a 60's F-100 or C-10 (I like my trucks). The 3rd stall will more than likely never see a vehicle, it will probably be set up as a work area.

My must have list currently stands at:
20 amp outlets every 6 feet on the walls
220v outlet for welder/big compressor
Floors epoxy coated (DIY, might look at rocksolid, not the water based garbage)
Lots of shelving/cabinets.

What else would you add to that list? There are some good pics on the other thread, but while I'm sitting here, looking at snow, and my filthy cars, I'd like to know what you car junkies would have in your dream garage.
 
Since I just finished the CAD layout for my build over the next year I'll participate. This assumes my nominal 20x20 garage (with 6x8 alcove for workbench) working on one car in the center. I've also got much of this already, it's just rearranging and supplementing.

Existing work bench & storage to remain for auto & home tools
220V for heat and compressor
2 cord reels ceiling mounted, 10' in from door and 6' off centerline either way
2 comp air reels - 1 left side at back, 1 right side at front
1 garden hose reel at alcove (left side at back) with softened water
3 rows x 2 rows of 4' fluorescent fixtures on ceiling
Additional 6' workbench centered at back, room for cart underneath
(2) 30" cabinets either side of bench & (3) 24" cabinets above for bulk chemicals, pads, towels & rarely used items
(2) 4'x4' pegboards at right side back corner for spray bottles & detail tools (MTM, Tornador, brushes); vac, extractor, steamer, jack & buckets below
(1) 48" cabinet for ramps, creeper, stands, etc
(3) 24" cabinets, 1 each for: polishers & polishes, Interior, Exterior & towels
Heavy duty clamps mounted on walls near overhead door for hanging floor mats, winter wear & mechanics coveralls - vinyl panels behind to avoid wetting the walls
14' trench drain at overhead door
Modutile drain tile flooring

Other things that are done:
Insulation
plywood walls (my family would destroy drywall)
Basic 5.1 home theater stereo, 24" TV, raspberry pi for streaming from our network drive


Note: Come on AG, I need the roku content available on my RPi.
 
Lighting.

Plenty of lighting is a must, IMO. If I could have my way, there would not only be multiple sources from above, but from the sides as well.

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Just had a home built by a custom builder - this thread was me a few months ago. I'm actually going to settlement in 2 weeks... Of course initially I thought I was going to build the Show Car Garage, but this is what I ended up going with:

1. Almost 3 car size garage with a single double wide garage door. In my case, a full 3 car garage would have been overkill. So, I got a 2 car garage with a "bump out" on the side. The "bump out" will house tools, detailing stuff, etc... This will make the garage clutter free and leave me with 2 clear, uncluttered, working bays. Here is a pic of the garage during e construction:

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Also, wanted a window in the garage. This to me was just common sense, so you have the option to open it and get some air.

2. Flat driveway - No way was I buying any house with a driveway that was like a hill. I hate working on slopes. When the weather is nice, you may want to do "car stuff" in your driveway. Where I live now there is a slope; and my buckets, vacuum, work stool, and Master Blaster always want to roll away.

3. Insulated garage - dunno where the OP live, but if it's the NE - it gets COLD. I had the garage insulated. Nothing in it should ever freeze, even if it's pushing 0° outside. Of course, full climate control would be great, but the reality for me was it probable wasn't necessary. Because the garage is insulated, adding a portable AC unit is a cheap option I can do later. Builder charged < grand to insulate - so it's not super expensive.

4. Water taps and floor drain in the garage. This is pretty self explanatory. Basically you can wash your car inside the garage. You can also hose the floor down to clean it. I'm just like concrete, so I'm not looking for an epoxy flooring or whatever. But if I was, I could ad it later - and the water taps will make it easier to clean.

5. A lot of people recommended I get an electrical sub panel for an air compressor. The reality is, I would never use or need air tools or an air compressor. I do all my own work on my own cars, but electric power tools work pretty well now a days. Again, your needs may be different.

6. Dunno if you want a lift or the option to add one? I decided on eventually adding a midsize lift like Max Jax. If your having the house built - make sure the concrete is spec'd correctly for the lift you want. Also, consider the height and location of the auto garage door opener. If you want (need?) a real full size two post lift - you will need special electrician requirements in the garage (sub panel?) most likely. A Max Jax mid rise doesn't require this and is more than sufficient for my needs. It's also moveable, as I know a full two post lift would annoy me because it's in the way. Again, maybe you plan on pulling transmissions on a daily basis, and a full size lift would be better for you. But for detailing - it's kind of overkill for a home garage.

7. Lighting - LEDs are the way to go. But regular fluorescent lighting (T5s or T8s) are significantly cheaper. I decided to go with 28 inline T8 Bulls in surface mounted fixtures, because the price was reasonable and I knew it would be sufficient for me:

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Of course, if you are taking out the trash - you won't need 28 bulbs. So, I had the builder put one strip of just 4 bulbs on a single switch, and a switch next to it that turns on all the lights.

I also made sure the auto garage door opener was fairly low profile, and won't interfere with a mid rise lift:

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Of course if you are detailing for a living, you may want a fancier light set-up. But in reality, lights on the side of the wall would just be in the way for me.

8. Outlets everywhere - Outlets are CHEAP. My builder alloyed a certain number of outlets, and then charged like $40 for each additional. I got a slew of them all around the garage.

9. This may go without saying, but I wanted direct access to the garage from the house. In the old days, they built homes where the garage was only accessible via the garage door (attached garage). I'm guessing they aren't doing that anymore? Also, I wasn't really looking for a house with a detached garage.

**** That is what I went with. For me, it's plenty and left me money to do a lot of other upgrades inside the house.




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Strong shelves and a heater are MUST haves💡

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Lighting.

Plenty of lighting is a must, IMO. If I could have my way, there would not only be multiple sources from above, but from the sides as well.

modern-shed.jpg

Totally Agree!

And that Photo is a Great visual. Thanks for posting that. This just gave me an ideal to look at. I also like all the White to reflect all the light from the actual lights!


Ray
 
Flat driveway - No way was I buying any house with a driveway that was like a hill. I hate working on slopes. When the weather is nice, you may want to do "car stuff" in your driveway. Where I live now there is a slope; and my buckets, vacuum, work stool, and Master Blaster always want to roll away.


This is a great point.👆🏽Can you imagine overlooking this detail and suffering with these annoying problems later? That would suck! Lol.
 
Totally Agree!

And that Photo is a Great visual. Thanks for posting that. This just gave me an ideal to look at. I also like all the White to reflect all the light from the actual lights!


Ray


Anytime, Ray. :xyxthumbs:

I truly hate working in low light conditions. Scrounging around for dropped nuts & bolts (there's always that one tiny part that loves to play hide & seek), not to mention the occasional tripping/kicking of tools is annoying. Really throws you off your game & flow.

A clean, well-lit work area is priority one for me. Worth the setup, plus LED bars/strips aren't crazy expensive like they used to be.
 
Some great ideas, thanks everyone.

Light is good. I live in St. Louis so we see cold winters, and hot summers. It will be insulated regardless of how big we go. I insulated the outer wall and door of my current 1-car and it was amazing how much it helped. Adding a pair of T-5 light fixtures was a huge improvement too.
 
Another "atta boy" for a flat driveway!

My drive has just a small gentle slope, but add the damn'd freezing drizzle (or similar, which is common here) like we had this morning, even that is a night mare. Yea, I just about went a** over tea kettle.

Bill
 
Anytime, Ray. :xyxthumbs:

I truly hate working in low light conditions. Scrounging around for dropped nuts & bolts (there's always that one tiny part that loves to play hide & seek), not to mention the occasional tripping/kicking of tools is annoying. Really throws you off your game & flow.

A clean, well-lit work area is priority one for me. Worth the setup, plus LED bars/strips aren't crazy expensive like they used to be.

You right man! Gotta have enough light. When I'm detailing someone else's car, or my car, I have got to SEE EVERYTHING!

I had a Guitar Teacher once teach me to practice LOUD. Because if I can practice sounding Great LOUD, then there is nothing to hide, and no matter at what volume I would play it, it will end up sounding Great. Practicing Quiet allows me to veer into hiding some flaws in my performing. And then when I really wanted to come out to play loud they would be Glaring mistakes out there for everyone to see.

To translate that into detailing and lighting is that, I want it to be LIT UP as bright as it can possibly be, allowing me to see the car from every single angle, and nook and cranny on that car in the clearest detail. So that when my customer see's it in normal outside conditions, I KNOW that I have covered all my bases and everything is totally taken care of.

If I did it in low light conditions, or did not have adequate light for the job, then something is always hidden. There is always another angle that I can't see and can possibly miss.

So I like to Practice LOUD, and also Detail in the BEST light possible.
 
I'm in the process of building my dream garage now, an addition to our existing home. These are all my must have features, some I'm incorporating right away, some will have to wait a bit. My wife and I are doing most the work ourselves but we did pay for the excavation, concrete work, and hanging the trusses/roofing.

24' x 40' with a 16' x 14' service room of the back side.


-In-floor radiant Heat
-Separate room for 60 gal compressor, hydronic floor plumbing/boiler, washer/dryer, laundry sink, 1/2 bath, and storage
-In-floor lift (BendPak SP-7X)
-11' ceilings
-Separate electrical panel in storage room
-Floor drain in the front stalls
-Hot/Cold Spigot with Deionized water crossover valve
-Wall mounted pressure washer
-Wall mount Master Blaster
-Mini split a/c unit
-2, maybe 3 220v/50amp charging points for electric cars
-Plenty of electrical outlets (still working on layout)
-Epoxy Floors
-Ample lighting, likely using custom T8 florescent fixtures or LED to get close to 100 ft candles of lighting. (MUST READ THREAD ON LIGHTING)
-Very well insulated.
-Pre-wired for TV, sound, and internet.
-TV mounted on back wall with cameras to help line cars up on lift
-Security system
-Multiple air connection points. Still working on where I want them. Looking at getting the Prevost piping & Fittings from Kevin Brown.
-Plenty of work bench space

Hope to be done by late spring.






 
Good ideas all around.

Keep in mind though, that what you *want* and what county code, and EVEN WORSE your local busy bodies, aka Home Owners Association will sign off on are drastically different things. :eek:

A buddy of mine (spoken of him before, big car collector) bought a new home down in Newnan, in the Lake Redwine subdivision. The original owner of the home had a 3 car garage (side entry) on the house. Then built directly across from it another single, double, single 4 car garage. Then when my buddy bought the house he built a third garage that faces the street, 50w x 30d with two double doors.

Basically the house is on the left, new garage straight ahead, and old free standing garage on the right.

They sit like this.
left - middle- right
H - garage - G
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He *wanted* heat and air, NOPE... couldn't have it.
He *wanted* running water inside the garage, with a wash bay, NOPE... couldn't have it.
He *wanted* 220v/240v, you guessed it... NOPE couldn't have it.
Of course he also wanted to put at least 3, if not 6 post lifts so he could double stack his cars in there. (It easily parks 6 wide, 2 deep.)
Guess the answer to that?????

Why?

Because both the HOA and the county code enforcement said he could use it for a business if it had all those. (Remember, it's not attached to the house.) I told him I'd STILL have at least put a wash bay, and ran 240v inside, but the inspector kept showing up at each stage of construction, and wouldn't allow it to happen! Heck... they didn't even let him put a side entry door on it! When the power is out he can't even get into his own garage!!! :eek: Of course the other free-standing garage doesn't have a side entry door either.

Friggin' nosy HOA.

Mine is an oversized 3-car, enough room for SUV's in all three. Keep my Caddy and CarMomma's SUV in the big one, and my car in the right. When doing paint correction CarMomma has to park outside. :D Can't imagine how I ever did without it truth be told.

OTOH, there's an L shaped garage downstairs too. (Well backwards L actually). It's full of tools, mowers, saws, etc. It's big enough to make a detailing shop for sure, but then I'd have to build another shop outside to put all that stuff in. :laughing:
 
Rasky, that is incredible! I can't wait to hear how the BendPak SP-7X works out. I have seen a couple of them installed in builds at the garagejournal.com forum and if I was pouring a new garage floor I would go with the in-floor lift. They look so clean.
 
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