How can a wax/sealant mute metallic flakes?

[loudog2]

I didn't care to much for it (sorry Louie, I know it's one of your favorite waxes). I really thought it was much harder to apply then other waxes and sweated (really noticable on flat black) for a few days. Removal was easy, protection seems good, and once it quit sweating it looks great. Just to be fair it was the only time I ever used it and I am sure I applied it to thick. I am used to using Souveran which goes on SO easy and is very forgiving...

I does take some getting used to like RBOE does. The wifes car gets the fuzion. Every time I use it, I still think to myself "god this is easier and quicker to use". But I think the super looks better for my color. So I just deal with it:dblthumb2:.

 

[Rsurfer]

Could this be from the oils used in some waxes?

Could be, but I think it's the filler waxes that are added. Not all waxes contain grade
A #1 carnuba wax. Some use Bee's wax and parafin as fillers.

 

[DARK HORSE]

I does take some getting used to like RBOE does. The wifes car gets the fuzion. Every time I use it, I still think to myself "god this is easier and quicker to use". But I think the super looks better for my color. So I just deal with it:dblthumb2:.

Ya, I'm sure it takes some getting used to. I will definitely continue to play with it, as I ended up with a fair amount, and it is kind of a cool wax. I will try to apply it even thinner next time. Think I'll use it on the (light metalic flake blue) Dodge next time...

 

[rwright]

Could be, but I think it's the filler waxes that are added. Not all waxes contain grade
A #1 carnuba wax. Some use Bee's wax and parafin as fillers.

That was my next question (bee's wax and parafin), so thanks for answering it already!

For what it's worth Louie, I like SN unlike Tad! But I didn't use it on black either...or a whole car for that matter. Maybe I'll stop talking now until I use it on a whole car...

 

[S2K]

I didn't care to much for it (sorry Louie, I know it's one of your favorite waxes). I really thought it was much harder to apply then other waxes and sweated (really noticable on flat black) for a few days. Removal was easy, protection seems good, and once it quit sweating it looks great. Just to be fair it was the only time I ever used it and I am sure I applied it to thick. I am used to using Souveran which goes on SO easy and is very forgiving...

What do you mean by "sweating"? That's the first time I've heard that term in reference to wax.

 

[DARK HORSE]

What do you mean by "sweating"? That's the first time I've heard that term in reference to wax.

Sweating looks like streaks on the paint. Typically doesn't show up till the next day or many hours later. It can be easily removed by QD'ing...

 

[WRAPT C5Z06]

Here is a great example of the darkening affect of Souveran paste wax. Both sides of the car were polished and finished exactly the same. The only difference is the LSP. Souveran Paste on the left and Supernatural on the right..

PERFECT EXAMPLE TAD!!!! I honestly was still hesitant about this topic, but this CLEARLY shows how a darkening affect can mute flakes! Note to self, never use souveran on any metallic paint!

 

[WRAPT C5Z06]

Now that I've seen Tad's awesome example, anyone know(for sure) of other waxes waxes or sealants that will have a darkening effect??

 

[A4 1.8tqm]

Obvious darkening effect, yes, but where is the "perfect example" of "muted flakes"? I see no such thing...

 

[akimel]

Here is a great example of the darkening affect of Souveran paste wax. Both sides of the car were polished and finished exactly the same. The only difference is the LSP. Souveran Paste on the left and Supernatural on the right..

I missed this thread when originally published. I confess I am surprised by the dramatic difference between Souveran and Supernatural. Souveran's darkening of the paint is marked--even I can see the difference.

What other waxes are known for darkening the paint? I have heard that M26 darkens the paint. Any others?

 

[Larry A]

I myself like the flakes muted. I prefer the depth of color. I use to drive a dark blue Rolls Royce for weddings . It had no metalic in the paint at all and the car was just stunning. Like a rolling mirror.

 

[FASTFRED]

I have used Souveran paste over BFWD and it was stunning. I have a Kona Blue Mustang GT.
fRED:xyxthumbs:

 

[A4 1.8tqm]

I myself like the flakes muted. I prefer the depth of color. I use to drive a dark blue Rolls Royce for weddings . It had no metallic in the paint at all and the car was just stunning. Like a rolling mirror.

What product did you use to intentionally mute the flake? I assume you are not referring the the Rolls, which did not have any metallic. I'm still unaware of anything that has actually been shown to do this.

Frankly it is a bit irritating to me, lots of talk about the subject but I've never seen it!