How Do I remove Opti-Coat 2.0?

turbogsxr600 said:
This thread was great. Three pages of people trying to convince him of something he clearly isn't going to be convinced of and just doesn't want lol. I started to think a lot of people here might work for this company. FWIW Opti coat sucks unless your someone that only cares about protecting your vehicles paint. It does not have the shine and depth of sealants or waxes. True car enthusiasts usually don't like it. OP I hope everything turned out okay.
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LOL. I greatly enjoyed your post and I agree about the looks and that Opti Coat sucks as far as I am concerned. I tried to be very clear up front that I had no further interest in Opti Coat, but I guess I was not clear enough or people just did not believe me because the Opti Coat cheerleaders came out in droves to convince me otherwise. I too suspected some of them may work for Opti Coat (or maybe make a lot of money selling it as a car detail item as some sort of magic).

What I thought was very funny was how some people could just not fathom how anybody would not just love Opti Coat. Like it was beyond comprehension. LOL.

People also seem to grossly exaggerate its protective quality until something damages it, and then the excuses come out. It is not as bullet proof as claimed (even bird crap can eat though it). As clearly shown in this thread, if something does happen to it good luck getting it off and doing any correction. If something eats through my wax, I can repair the area a hell of a lot easier.

Also, as someone pointed out above, it may not prevent oxidation either on single stage paints, so why would I want it on permanently (then we find out it may not be as permanent as claimed)?

At the end of the day I prefer working with good waxes to maintain my car. I have had outstanding success during my lifetime with waxes on my cars over the many years that I have owned cars so I honestly think my car will be better off with the waxes I choose than Opti Coat.
 
I agree. I am not impressed AT ALL with the look of Opti-coat. while it has its own look i'm not impressed on my black metallic paint. Its also extremely grabby at all times and water etching happens incredibly easy and fast. I cant even let my car get rained on without washing it otherwise i get etching immediately. I never noticed this on my white car, but my black car was a nightmare with it. the easiest solution is to apply a polymer sealant over opti-coat or wax it often. This will solve the water etching problem with this coating. I know people will argue me on this point and say standing water is a problem no matter what the LSP, but if you have a black car thats opti-coated i'm confident you will understand.
 
HwyChile said:
LOL. I greatly enjoyed your post and I agree about the looks and that Opti Coat sucks as far as I am concerned. I tried to be very clear up front that I had no further interest in Opti Coat, but I guess I was not clear enough or people just did not believe me because the Opti Coat cheerleaders came out in droves to convince me otherwise. I too suspected some of them may work for Opti Coat (or maybe make a lot of money selling it as a car detail item as some sort of magic).

What I thought was very funny was how some people could just not fathom how anybody would not just love Opti Coat. Like it was beyond comprehension. LOL.

People also seem to grossly exaggerate its protective quality until something damages it, and then the excuses come out. It is not as bullet proof as claimed (even bird crap can eat though it). As clearly shown in this thread, if something does happen to it good luck getting it off and doing any correction. If something eats through my wax, I can repair the area a hell of a lot easier.

Also, as someone pointed out above, it may not prevent oxidation either on single stage paints, so why would I want it on permanently (then we find out it may not be as permanent as claimed)?

At the end of the day I prefer working with good waxes to maintain my car. I have had outstanding success during my lifetime with waxes on my cars over the many years that I have owned cars so I honestly think my car will be better off with the waxes I choose than Opti Coat.
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while i agree with you on not liking the look, you should know that opticoat is NOT designed for single stage paint. and also bird crap will eat through anything, including your factory paint. Opti-coat does have its benefits but there is a reason most coating manufactuers are adding the polymer content as a top layer . ie: CQuartz EU requiring reload... Gtech requiring C1.5... Gtech's EXO which is a polymer hybrid.. and Sonax introducing Polymer Net Shield as a top coat for their glass coating. The polymer layer is required to stop the easy etching and staining of the water spot issue from what i have been told by Sonax USA and others.

I also believe The Black Label coating has polymers as well considering how slippery the coating is.
 
mg6045 said:
while i agree with you on not liking the look, you should know that opticoat is NOT designed for single stage paint. and also bird crap will eat through anything, including your factory paint. Opti-coat does have its benefits but there is a reason most coating manufactuers are adding the polymer content as a top layer . ie: CQuartz EU requiring reload... Gtech requiring C1.5... Gtech's EXO which is a polymer hybrid.. and Sonax introducing Polymer Net Shield as a top coat for their glass coating. The polymer layer is required to stop the easy etching and staining of the water spot issue from what i have been told by Sonax USA and others.

I also believe The Black Label coating has polymers as well considering how slippery the coating is.
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As far as I am concerned, it does not have any benefits for me. None. That is why I am taking it off. I am just glad that I did not put it on the entire car (just a few panels) and that I hope it is new enough where it may come off a little easier than if if had cured for 30 days.

By the way, the way people sell this stuff they say it is the end all and that it will totally protect your paint, until we find out it won't. Lots of promises followed by excuses which is how most "magic" stuff turns out.
 
HwyChile said:
As far as I am concerned, it does not have any benefits for me. None. That is why I am taking it off. I am just glad that I did not put it on the entire car (just a few panels) and that I hope it is new enough where it may come off a little easier than if if had cured for 30 days.

By the way, the way people sell this stuff they say it is the end all and that it will totally protect your paint, until we find out it won't. Lots of promises followed by excuses which is how most "magic" stuff turns out.
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well the reality is that enthusiasts are not the target group for the product imo. Opti-coat was designed for professional detailers. As a way to protect the average joe's vehicle from the elements and tunnel wash's. It was never meant to be sold online until an uproar from enthusiasts about not having the latest and greatest. not it seems its turned around and not many enthusiasts like it. pretty funny how things work. :) Optimum knows this wasnt the intended audience so I dont think its a problem to them.
 
zmcgovern45 said:
It has already been explained... the coating will need to be machine polished to remove it. A typical coating of OC2.0 measures in at between 1-2 microns, therefore you must remove this amount of material to remove the coating from the paint.

When the surface is properly polished, and cleaned (ie totally free of any coatings, polishing residue, etc etc), it should no longer bead/sheet water like it does when it is properly protected.
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I have had good Beading following Polishing w/o an LSP present...make sure you follow with an IPA wipedown or CarPro Eraser

This Picture is after Wolfgang Total Swirl Remover

 
allenk4 said:
I have had good Beading following Polishing w/o an LSP present

This Picture is after Wolfgang Total Swirl Remover

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It is also known that the oils present in most polishes will in fact bead quite well... that is why it is important to wash and thoroughly cleanse the surface after polishing to remove the oils.

Polish a section with Menzerna SF4500, spray it with water, and it'll bead as good/better than any wax on the market lol
 
zmcgovern45 said:
It is also known that the oils present in most polishes will in fact bead quite well... that is why it is important to wash and thoroughly cleanse the surface after polishing to remove the oils.

Polish a section with Menzerna SF4500, spray it with water, and it'll bead as good/better than any wax on the market lol
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Thanks. Yes, I intend to follow up with an eraser or IPA or other paint cleaner.

By the way, to be honest, I did not know my car had a single stage paint on it until recently. I don't think Optimum really makes it clear that it does not work as well on single stage paint either. They are pretty vague on a few points about this product as far as I am concerned.
 
HwyChile I just wanted to say that one on here is working for Optimum most of us here just find it as an oddity that someone wants to remove the coating. Its not something you will find very often so it usually throw us for a loop.

Certainly no hard feelings and if its not for you it not nothing wrong with that plenty of other options for you in the way of sealants and waxes.

:props:
 
Evan.J said:
HwyChile I just wanted to say that one on here is working for Optimum most of us here just find it as an oddity that someone wants to remove the coating. Its not something you will find very often so it usually throw us for a loop.

Certainly no hard feelings and if its not for you it not nothing wrong with that plenty of other options for you in the way of sealants and waxes.

:props:
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No hard feelings. I was just starting to feel like everyone was implying that I was an idiot and it also irked me somewhat with the attitude that everybody should just love Opti Coat. No single product is for everyone. What works for one person may not work for another. I can tell everyone on here is a good person so no hard feelings, and thank everyone very much for the discussion and the advice.
 
For those statements up there, I too can say some of the just paid to said Opti Coat sucks?

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ZeroSP said:
For those statements up there, I too can say some of the just paid to said Opti Coat sucks?

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Sorry, but your post and picture do not make any sense. What are you trying to say and what is your picture showing?
 
hamlyn said:
He said: the coconut fell to the ground.
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Thanks for clearing that up for me. I was having trouble trying to decipher what he was trying to say and show with the picture. :confused:

My best guess was that he thought I was being paid to bad mouth Opti Coat and the picture was how great it worked. :laughing: I wondered who would actually pay me to bad mouth Opti Coat, and then it occurred to me that there are plenty of auto detailers who probably hate that they don't get to wax cars more often now that Opti Coat lasts forever, and I am sure they would pay me a lot of money to bad mouth Opti Coat. It also occurred to me that the wax companies are probably worried that Opti Coat is gong to put them out of business, so maybe they would pay me as well. :laughing:

His picture is clear evidence that Opti Coat really is the greatest. Case closed. Of course, maybe he means something totally different with his post. Coconut.....very interesting.
 
I think you are being paid post by post for patience
 
HwyChile said:
Sorry, but I don't understand what you are trying to say with your post either. Care to explain?
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You know..something about a coconut..
No, no - I'll kill my joke and explain: I'm parodying the "paid to __" comments and saying that if anything you are being paid for your patience judging by the other posts you were bombarded with
 
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