How would you detail this car? ----> Barn Find - 1961 Plymouth Fury

Wash
Pre-sray with Uber RW and waterless wash dilution
Rinseless Wash with Uber

Wheels, Wells & Tires
APC via Tornador and brushes
Rinseless wash to neutralize APC on metal
Tires with Blackfire All-in-one
Mask Wheels & Tires

Paint
Mechanical decon, no chemical decon
Remove all decals that are easily accessible
Meguiars #7 application
Tape, Tape, Tape
Paint thickness readings taken, assuming plenty of paint left:
Wool pad on rotary with swirl remover, Also hit all the chrome at this time with same pad
foam pad on DA with polish
LSP with DA

Glass
Wolfgang Uber Glass Polish by machine

Interior
Vacuum
Interior dilution APC with Tornador & by hand
 
Waterless wash
Clay
M7
Clean & dress tires
Polish the metal trim including hubcaps
More M7
Clean interior including glass
Polish
Seal Paint
 
Wash: Pinnacle liquid Crystal Waterless Wash with Carnauba/microfiber towels
Glass: Pinnacle Glasswork Water Spot Remover
Pinnacle Glasswork Window Sealant with Rain Repellent

Baggie Test:
Clay/Nanoskin Autoscrub

Chrome/Metal Trim: P21S Polishing Soap
Chrome bumpers: after completing the polishing of all the panels, use the advanced finishing polish/white hybrid pad on the bumpers

Correction: Meguiar's #7 with terry washcloth

Flex XC 3401 VRG

Pinnacle Advanced Swirl Remover -
Lake Country Hybrid Orange Heavy Cutting Pad

Pinnacle Advanced Finishing Polish -
Lake Country Hybrid White Polishing Pad

LSP: Pinnacle Liquid Souveran Car Wax

Tires: Blackfire All- In- One Trim & Tire Protectant

Interior: 303 Aerospace Cleaner
303 Aerospace Protectant
 
I would hire Mike Phillips to do the restoration.........nothing to it. :)
 
Wheels/tires with below

AIO tire treatment

Pretreat rinseless/rinseless.

Clay alternative

AIO

Clean glass inside and out

Slap a bow on it and call it done till January.
 
I won't propose steps, but offer support for the decision to correct and detail it. If it was a barn find 65 Shelby GT350, I would send it to Mecum with dirt and hay on it. For this one, as cool as it is, I don't see the true barn find (dirt included) as enhancing value. This is a driver.
 
I'm not listing steps but rather answers to your problems in BOLD trying to think outside the box like you said

Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
I'm not firm on all of my steps yet and I am thinking outside the box as to my approach.

The inside is all vinyl and dirty.
Maybe try some Marine 31 vinyl cleaner & conditioner

The engine compartment is a wreck.
Lay cardboard on top of the Race Deck floor then go to town with a steamer.

The paint is shiny under the layer of dirt but I'm pretty sure the paint is in dire need of decontamination and correction.
Rinseless Wash, steamer around trim, design an iron remover that can be used with rinseless wash and use that, then Nanoskin clay towel to decontaminate the whole car.

All the metal work is dull, oxidized and stained.
Rupes iBrid, oh wait it's not out yet :( Hmm, Flex PE8 and your favorite metal polish.

The tires are ugly and the hubcaps need shining.
OHHH, I know what Mike's gonna use on this! His trusty PC with a cyclo brush and DP Tire Cleaner! Remove the hubcaps and polish them by hand in the good ol' Florida sun.

The glass is filthy inside and out.
Flex PE14-2 with a rayon glass polishing pad on the exterior and Wolfgang glass cleaner on the inside with the Glass Master tool.
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1. Pressure wash it with water.
2. Do a rinse less wash.
3. Clay with a DA
4. Iron X(I use ferrex)
5. Pressure wash again.
6. Use a light finishing polish. Use stronger compound if needed.
7. IPA wipedown.
8. Put a coating of Optimum gloss coat.

Bam, that thing will look shiny for the next 2 years.

For the engine Mike, I would hit it with a degreaser and then use a steamer with a MF to catch all the runoff and residue.

For the interior I would use a heated extractor if there's a lot of carpet and for the vinyls I would use a soap/citrus based cleaner since the dirt inside would consist mostly of grease. If there's any stains I missed on the vinyl, I use a black light and it will show up
 
I'm just surprised as a kid on Christmas morning that that puppy isn't partially rusted out, being from Minnesota...even if it is a barn find.

The original owner musta taken pretty good care of it.

I know you said no brakes, hence no outside water. But, couldn't you just push it out to at least hose it off. I'm thinking that 'it' having lived in a barn for all those years...I'd be looking for some hidden living critter(s) or at least some 'critter damage.'

Bill
 
Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
I'm not firm on all of my steps yet and I am thinking outside the box as to my approach.

The inside is all vinyl and dirty.


The engine compartment is a wreck.

The paint is shiny under the layer of dirt but I'm pretty sure the paint is in dire need of decontamination and correction.

All the metal work is dull, oxidized and stained.

The tires are ugly and the hubcaps need shining.

The glass is filthy inside and out.


So the question is....


How would you go about doing a proper detail on this car?


List your steps.


And all our newest forum members are absolutely encouraged to chime in!



:xyxthumbs:
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For the exterior paint. My steps:
Rinse the exterior to loosen and remove topical dirt. Then I'd do a waterless wash followed by claying the paint to reveal true condition of the paint. I'd probably use Meg 7 as from the year of the car, I'd say it's single stage. After that's done to satisfaction, I'd wax it using Collinite Doublecoat. For the metal, I'd use P21s Polish (tape of the areas surrounding the metal) and in retrospect, do the metal before the paint.

For the interior: first I'd vacuum the full interior to reveal possible next steps. From the description, I'd use the tornador (sp) to clean all the vinyl or if no machine, start with Optimum APC diluted to 10:1 and gentle brush and work up from there. For carpets, shampoo and extract or again, if no machine, use carpet brushes on DA using spot cleaner and diluted APC. For dash areas, I'd use either Meg's Interior Detailer or Meg's Synthetic Spray. P21s for any metal detailing.

For glass: I'd steam it all, interior and exterior followed by either Zeps, GG or Stoners glass cleaners. I like them all.

Tires and wheels: I'd place plastic over the rims and hit the tires with Optimum APC. I'd do so just in case a reaction from the APC to the metal occurs. After rinsing the tires, I'd use a gentle wash soap to clean the rims followed by P21s metal polish. I'd use Opti-Bond Tire Gel on the tires for shine.

Lastly, the engine. I'd research the engine on line and gain knowledge on sensitive part areas. Once I'm sure of those areas, I'd protect them with thicker plastic and bound the plastic with tape, etc. next I'd APC the exposed areas, let it sit, agitate with brushes and then rinse engine compartment. Blow dry engine. I'd probably use Meg's Synthetic Spray as its fine for rubber and metal.

Before presenting the vehicle, I'd use a quick detailer to knock off any dust.
 
Can't seem to edit my comment so I'd like to submit an edit here. Forgot the correction step.
While everyone else is suggesting Meguiars #7 I don't think that's what Mike is looking for. The paint does not look oxidized in the photos. Would be helpful if I knew how much correction you were looking to get. I haven't heard if Essense is fine for single stage paints but if so I believe this would be a great vehicle to test it on. If intense correction is needed I would suggest WG Uber 3.0 followed with WG Polish Enhancer.
 
The darker corners of my soul are saying
1) Distract Mike
2) load it on a truck
3) Run!!!


:)

hawk
 
Answered in bold.
Can't wait to see how this comes out! And this prize from Nick sounds quite intriguing...
Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
I'm not firm on all of my steps yet and I am thinking outside the box as to my approach.

The inside is all vinyl and dirty.
APC or a dedicated vinyl cleaner and conditioner after a thorough vacuuming with the DP vacuum. Shampooing of carpets or extraction, depending on how nasty they are. Cleaning of rest of interior with APC or an interior cleaner like the one from DP
The engine compartment is a wreck.
Blackfire cosmetic engine detailing kit
The paint is shiny under the layer of dirt but I'm pretty sure the paint is in dire need of decontamination and correction.
RW with the new Uber or any of the other rinseless options with the new rinseless mitt and some cobra waffle weaves. Mechanical decon with clay bar or nanoskin and whatever you prefer for lube(Uber diluted, clay lube, detail spray, etc...)
Machine polish. Depending on level of damage use either a compound and polish or if it's not too bad just a polish. An old classic needs some classic style love, so go with a nice paste wax(like Souveran or Fuzion for example)to make the newly polished paint glow!
All the metal work is dull, oxidized and stained.
Your favorite metal polish with your favorite rotary
The tires are ugly and the hubcaps need shining.
Your PC with cyclo brush and some DP tire cleaner and then DP tire coating. For the hubs, metal polish(assuming they are metal of course)and a small machine if needed(hard to tell how bad they are from the pics posted)
The glass is filthy inside and out.
Wolfgang's new glass cleaner and glass polish sound like solid choices

So the question is....


How would you go about doing a proper detail on this car?


List your steps.


And all our newest forum members are absolutely encouraged to chime in!



:xyxthumbs:
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Where oh where to begin! I'm sure if Mike is doing it, the correct answer is he'll do it like a Boss!

I would start by giving it a quick look over for bees and snakes. If you ever found a wasp nest in a car, I can relate. If you covered it with plastic and put bug bombs in it, I'd not judge you, but I'd also not recommend it. Anywho, back on topic.

I would do a quick pressure wash to get dirt from the cracks and crevices. Follow that with aProper rinseless wash. Then blow it dry to get the water out of those hidden places. Tires and all.

Next, decon the paint with a nano pad on a PC for large areas and clay for the tight areas. Then wipe all the clay lube off.

Gott show the engine some love. Lots of towels and APC. Steamer if I had one. Once it's clean, polish the chrome and dress the rubber. I think cleaning the battery terminals would be appreciated too. Oh, done forget the underside of the hood.

Next up, polish all that chrome and hope none has to be replated.

I'd polish the all the exterior Windows with dp glass restorer.

Tape up all edges and prepare for some paint polishing. Seeing how Mike is great with a rotary, I think he'll cut with a PE-14 and wool. That will be followed by the 3401 to finish it al off. Christmas is near so he may feel giving and go back over the gloss panels with the PE14 with some menzerna SF3800.

For the interior, start with a shop vac get everything out. I'd pull he seats with the owner's permission. After that, everything would be cleaned with APC, various brushes and microfibers. Top it all off with DP interior surface protectant.

All interior glass would be cleaned several times because it'll take many times to get all that off.

Finally, dress the trim and tires. Give the paint a coat of synergy and place a sample tub of sovereign in the glove box.

Most importantly, drink lots of water during and between all steps. Also, have fun. Play some music as you go.
 
Oops, ignore the parts about pressure washing and engine detailing. I forgot the car was immobile and would be back later.
 
***Update***


Some reallly good guesses so far!


As of Friday, alll I was able to get to was the first steps of getting her clean. January, February, Mach and April are incredibly busy next year, lots of exciting new projects coming up real fast plus a lot of regularly scheduled projects. Before anything happens though there's always planning and logistics that takes place beforehand and this type of work tends to get done in December.

Been thinking of all different types of ways to attack this car now that she's cleaned up but have not chosen any specific plan of action yet except to make her purdy.


So keep the guesses coming... I'm sure Nick will have a great prize for whoever guesses closest to the steps I use.


One thing for sure, she's a big un!

Also, Jim the owner has obtained a huge red bow to place on the car!


:D
 
Lets see. Check out the chassis to make sure there isn't any animal nests under there and clean them out first.
Clean the engine compartment, underside of the hood using waterless cleaner. Don't want to be messing with them old spark plug wires.

Clean the inside of the windows.

Clean the interior being careful of all the old vinyl, wiping with water first. Start with the dash and work down.
Vacuum the carpet, then extract it or steam clean.
Apply above steps to trunk.
Clean the door jambs with a waterless wash. The truck jamb as well.
Rinseless wash the body, top down.
Decontaminate the car with IronX or equivalent.
Clay the car.
Compound the car
Polish the car
Tape off chrome and clean polish it.
Polish hubcaps
Apply tire dressing
Seal the paint
Wax the paint
Find way to prevent bow from sliding off car.
:0)

I just bought my wife a beater truck for Christmas. This was a good chance for me to think it through on how to clean it.
 
***Finished***

Well at least the outside is finished. If Jim gets the brakes rebuilt in time for my upcoming January ACR 3-Day Detailing Class then he'll bring it back and my class will,

1. Learn how to use the Dupray and MyTee Steam Cleaners to clean the interior.

2. Learn how do do a Traditional Engine Detail.

The outside is done though. Didn't have time to share the pictures but I should get to it tomorrow.

When Jim comes back to get the car with a car hauler he's bringing a HUGE red bow for the final beauty shot.

As for the winner...

I'll post my process tomorrow, I think it will surprise some of you and then how about a few guys read through the thread and lets choose who came closest to listing the steps in a very "generic" way.


It's all in good fun....


:)
 
Wow, some people got really close, but there were some surprises in your process like you said there would be. Can't wait to see what happens with this!
 
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