Hydro-tech Vs. CCS ?

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If the blue hydro-tech is suppose to dust less than the orange CCS and if the orange Hydro-tech is suppose to finish nicier than the white CCS?

May I please know why Lake country or AG still sell the orange and white CCS pad ?

I've been using the CCS pad for 2 years now.. I'm wondering if I should make the switch. You know, Alwyas trying to do a better work!
 
Uh.... why does ANY company or vendor offer multiple product lines?

Because different people like different things.
 
see if anyone is close to you and ask to give the pads a spin.
 
Different strokes. I never did like the CCS pads...I preferred the flat ones. I prefer the hydro techs even more.
 
They both are different, flat pads are open cell, hydrotech pads are close cell, CCS are combination. Lake country pads are confusing indeed, took me a while to digest each of them.

If you have mike's book, there are some reading about them, pro and cons of both technologies.
 
The CCS pads are more durable than the HT pads, especially the Cyan HT pads. CCS also offers softer finishing pads as well. CCS Pads are also easier to clean. Dust isn't a byproduct of the pad, it's from the polish and the technique. I used the blue HT pads the other day with a compound and dust flew everywhere - so did blue foam pieces from the pad.
 
I read on another thread that the flat/HT pads are better for DAT and CCS is better for SMAT. I've only been using CCS for both types and plan to try out some flat pads for my DAT products this year.
 
Dogfather said:
Uh-oh.
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I subscribe to this school of thought having used both, and here's why.

When working a SMAT polish the abrasives are not breaking down in size and therefore the re-introduction of polish to the working face of the pad at any point during your 'set' has no effect on how the polish is finishing.

But if you do this near the end of a section pass with a DAT polish, you re-introduce fresh polish with abrasives that are not yet broken down. These will ultimately mar the paint, resulting in a sub-standard finish.

So when I can I will use CCS for SMAT products and use the pad's design to add polish back to the face of the pad to extend the buffing cycle if I need to continue cutting (I find easing off the pressure mid pass does this). Conversely I will use flat pads for DAT polishes where I can.
 
@lawrenceSA
Did you bookmark the link about it?

I have read it somewhere, I wanted to read it again but I can't find it.
 
irsankao said:
@lawrenceSA
Did you bookmark the link about it?

I have read it somewhere, I wanted to read it again but I can't find it.
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I am not sure if this is the link you are looking for? http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-101/67725-expert-advice-needed-proper-technique-menz-sf4500-lc-ht-crimson.html but this is the only place I recall discussing it - of course that doesn't mean it wasn't actually discussed somewhere else, but rather that I may just be loosing my marbles:laughing:
 
I am in the same dilemma. I can not figure out which polishing pads to buy. Every time I start looking, I get a headache from seeing 500 different ones lol.
 
Hydro (and the LC Flat Pads) usually work best with DAT polish (Menzerna)
CCS can work better for SMAT polish (Meguiars)

I prefer Flat/Hydro as I like Menzerna.

CCS wont break down the diminishing abrasives fully due to the dimples.
 
Dunno. I've used CCS/Flat with DAT & SMAT interchangeably and never had any problem.
 
swanicyouth said:
Dunno. I've used CCS/Flat with DAT & SMAT interchangeably and never had any problem.
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A case can be made that flat pad will work better than any pad with a design for DAT products.

Like you though, I've used all types of pads with all types of products and what I have experienced is the same thing I alway type about on this forum and that is out of all the factors that can influence your results when polishing scratch-sensitive paints, the pad type is the least important.

Assuming common sense is used and a foam cutting pad is used for correction work and so on...


:)
 
DetailingNoob said:
I am in the same dilemma. I can not figure out which polishing pads to buy. Every time I start looking, I get a headache from seeing 500 different ones lol.
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When first starting out, I'd recommend to keep it simple and just go with 5.5" Lake Country Foam Flat Pads.

1. Flat surfaces are easier to clean than pads with a design.

2. The LC Flat pads are open cell, easier to clean, best wear and tear compared to hydro and hybrid.

3. 5.5" flat pads are tapered so the actual diameter is about 5" and the smaller the diameter the better the rotation and roation is KEY to defect removal with any dual action polisher. No rotation means you're wasting your time.

4. 5.5" flat pad are 7/8" thin. Thinner pads rotate better than thicker pads.
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I actually explain all of this in my how-to book too...


:)
 
Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
When first starting out, I'd recommend to keep it simple and just go with 5.5" Lake Country Foam Flat Pads.
1. Flat surfaces are easier to clean than pads with a design.

2. The LC Flat pads are open cell, easier to clean, best wear and tear compared to hydro and hybrid.

3. 5.5" flat pads are tapered so the actual diameter is about 5" and the smaller the diameter the better the rotation and roation is KEY to defect removal with any dual action polisher. No rotation means you're wasting your time.

4. 5.5" flat pad are 7/8" thin. Thinner pads rotate better than thicker pads.
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I actually explain all of this in my how-to book too...


:)
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Mike, you are the man! Thank you for your advice. I wish I lived closer to the AG Facility so I can come to your classes :( I live in Orlando, FL
 
mdgrwl said:
Hydro (and the LC Flat Pads) usually work best with DAT polish (Menzerna)
CCS can work better for SMAT polish (Meguiars)

I prefer Flat/Hydro as I like Menzerna.

CCS wont break down the diminishing abrasives fully due to the dimples.
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Just came back to this thread and read this comment.
I will be using Megs Ultimate Compound and Megs Ultimate Polish.. so you say these are SMAT products, so it would be better to use LC CCS pads?

Too many pads haha
 
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