Interesting 50/50 test results..

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I got a call from a neighbor of mine asking if I was available to do her SUV today.. I had the day off so I was more than happy to do it. Plus it reminded me of a little test I had going on her paint.
Just over 6 weeks ago I did a 50/50 test between 2 different products on her hood. [She's a friend so she's fine with me using her SUV as a test guineua pig sometimes] I washed the vehicle, then clayed the hood, and applied both products on May 8th.

Right side: Griots Boss Finishing Sealant.

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Left side: Meguiars Paint Protect.

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I figured this would be nothing more than a simple water beading test.. It turned out to be a bit more interesting than just that.
Note: This SUV hasn't been touched by anyone since that day. I'm the only 1 who washes/details it.

Well I didn't need any water to check the results.. I actually wasn't even thinking about it at the time because I was getting ready to clean the interior 1st, and the wheels & tires next.. But when I caught a glance at the hood I was like "oh man, look at the difference we got here"!

Check it out:

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Now this is what I call some interesting looking results. Lol.

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6 weeks daily driven + parked outside. The Meguiars Paint Protect looked pretty sweet.[in comparison to the other side]

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Meanwhile, The Boss Finishing Sealant looked like it drove through a mudslide for the past 6 weeks.

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Ok so now came time for the long awaited water beading test. Lets see how/if either of these 2 have held up..

1st spray of water:

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Check it out:

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It's like night & day. I must say It feels good to see a 50/50 experiment work precisely at the tape line.😉

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So you can guess what my initial thoughts might've been.. But I wasn't going to decide anything just yet. I decided to spray the hood down with Megs D114 and let it dwell for a minute while I rinsed the rest of the vehicle. I came back and rinsed the hood and not much changed, in fact the Megs side saw the beading get a little more fierce after that.

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So onto the bucket wash w/Megs Shampoo Plus.

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And after the rinse final shot. Same water beading results. View attachment 49541


I could've called it at that point.. But I decided to check 1 last thing, the 1 thing that matters even more than beading when it's all said and done.. Have either of these 2 knuckleheads actually provided any real protection to the paint? It's time for a baggie test. They both passed..

At that time I figured the passing of the baggie test meant the Boss Finishing Sealant was about as ok as Kevin Love being alright to celebrate with his fellow Cavalier teammates after winning the Championship. Lol. But then I noticed the Boss Finishing Sealant side was etched with spots from where the dirt blotches had laid.. This is not good here... [hard to get a picture of the etching but you can sort of see it in these 2 pics] Big blotch:

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Little spots all over: [you can see them just above the sunlit area. In the shaded side of the pic] It looks like they may need to be mechanically removed.

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Interesting results to say the least.. Thx for reading.
 
The only thing that gets me is that these two products are like comparing apples to oranges. One being an AIO and the other being a stand alone paint protection. So it makes sense that the AIO's protection has diminished so much given that an AIO doesn't offer the longest protection.

Depending on the area she lives in, the contaminants can be low. None the less thanks for posting up your results on both products.

So are you now a believer in PP365? It was doing great for me on my dad's car at 6 months before his ride was stolen.
 
Awful results from the Griots sealant in all aspects. Nothing like real life, factual,good to honest testing. Too much fanboy nonsense and marketing hype nowdays especially on the forums. Well done, wish we could see more "factual" real world tests like these.
 
I didnt know the finishing sealant was an AIO. I know some people use it that way, but judging by the label marked "Finishing Sealant" . Im lead to believe uts on par with products like, power lock, and Sonax PNS.
 
The Guz said:
The only thing that gets me is that these two products are like comparing apples to oranges. One being an AIO and the other being a stand alone paint protection. So it makes sense that the AIO's protection has diminished so much given that an AIO doesn't offer the longest protection.
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I have to agree it's not really a fair competition pitting an AIO up against an LSP designed to be highly durable. As much as I like AIO's and think the concept is great, I've never seen more than 6~8 weeks of durability from an AIO. Good LSP's last far longer.
 
Zubair said:
Awful results from the Griots sealant in all aspects. Nothing like real life, factual,good to honest testing. Too much fanboy nonsense and marketing hype nowdays especially on the forums. Well done, wish we could see more "factual" real world tests like these.
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Such a true statement.
 
Zubair said:
Awful results from the Griots sealant
in all aspects.

Nothing like real life, factual, good to
honest testing.

Too much fanboy nonsense and marketing
hype nowdays especially on the forums.

Well done...
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This makes me wonder if the McKee's Jeweling Wax would perform the same as the BOSS Finishing Sealant. I'd like to see a long-term review on the McKee's.
 
brettS4 said:
This makes me wonder if the McKee's Jeweling Wax would perform the same as the BOSS Finishing Sealant. I'd like to see a long-term review on the McKee's.
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Yes, I'm very curious how they'll perform against the other products. the 360 promises 6 months of protection! I find that possible in a garage kept queen that sees the light once a day every month.

I'm going to test it on my Volt's hood. I'll pit the 360 up against the adam's liquid paint sealant (only sealant I got)
 
I agree it's an apples to oranges comparison but it's still a comparison. There's been quite a few threads about aio's and although we don't know about the process that was used when products were applied it does show a difference. I agree the aio side looks awful and that's been my experience as well. Initially the aio looks great for the amount of time spent but the protection fades quickly and the paint becomes harder to clean then looks like that. Even if the car was washed weekly I still think we'd see the same results.
 
The Guz said:
The only thing that gets me is that these two products are like comparing apples to oranges. One being an AIO and the other being a stand alone paint protection.
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I'd like to clarify just a bit.. I didn't really intend this as a vs. battle between the 2 products at all. I was simply interested in using both products for the 1st time and I knew that unless I used them for free on a vehicle such as hers, I probably wouldn't get a chance to use either 1 until a proper situation aka a paying job required me to use the products. [I had just picked up the Megs PP on clearance locally for $2 just a few days prior and couldn't wait to try my unopened goodies] :)

FYI: I don't use AIO's on any of my own vehicles here at home. I don't settle for subpar protection + I like my paint to remain as smooth as possible for as long as possible..

The only time I've ever used an AIO on my own car was in order to demonstrate a whole car could be polished with 1 pad without the pad literally burning up in flames. Lol.

Zubair said:
Nothing like real life, factual,good to honest testing. Too much fanboy nonsense and marketing hype nowdays especially on the forums. Well done, wish we could see more "factual" real world tests like these.
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Thanks. I believe in keeping it real when it comes to sharing my own experiences with things.. Not to mention it opens up the possibility to maybe learn how to get better results from others on here who can provide advice.
 
But actually, at the time of this test I was more under the impression that the Boss Finishing Sealant was a straight sealant. It's not until recently that most of us [including myself] finally began knowing it to be more of an AIO than a stand alone sealant. But either ways, I don't think I would've used it on my own vehicle unless it turned out to provide never before seen long term protection.
 
Then don't call it all in one if the protection is so poor. Less than 6 weeks of protection, and in fact it might just protect only 1-2 weeks, that is very bad for me. Now it's going to leave all the bad defects after 6 weeks and you need to re-polish? LMAO

Then it's better to work with 1 steps polish then spend little more time to apply sealant or some durable wax than being lazy to use shitty AIO and work again every 6 weeks. Really want to see how jeweling wax and speed would hold out.
 
The Meguiars side stayed much cleaner, and continued to show signs of strength and protection. Really worth looking into the Meguiars as its gona keep the car looking cleaner for longer with far less risk of wash swirls after as a result of being cleaner to begin with.
 
If remember the finishing sealant is only said to last 1 month maybe 2 if vehicle is parked inside. Which does contradict what a sealant is suppose to do
 
I just used finishing sealant and liked the application process, but I didn't even wait 10 minutes before applying poly wax. Finishing sealant is designed for appearance and not protection (yes the name is confusing for me too!). It doesn't have any of the same ingredients as poly wax or other dedicated sealants. It sacrifices a lot of good ingredients to be compatible with long throw polishers (you can't use poly wax with a long throw). Good test though. I had no idea Meg PP was going to be that good! I was always confused by the shampoo like consistency of PP
 
MandaMarza said:
I just used finishing sealant and liked the application process, but I didn't even wait 10 minutes before applying poly wax. Finishing sealant is designed for appearance and not protection (yes the name is confusing for me too!). It doesn't have any of the same ingredients as poly wax or other dedicated sealants. It sacrifices a lot of good ingredients to be compatible with long throw polishers (you can't use poly wax with a long throw). Good test though. I had no idea Meg PP was going to be that good! I was always confused by the shampoo like consistency of PP
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Nice to see you posting on here as well as on you IG account. Did those Air Re-Freshers I recommended come in yet?
 
MandaMarza said:
I just used finishing sealant and liked the application process, but I didn't even wait 10 minutes before applying poly wax. Finishing sealant is designed for appearance and not protection (yes the name is confusing for me too!). It doesn't have any of the same ingredients as poly wax or other dedicated sealants. It sacrifices a lot of good ingredients to be compatible with long throw polishers (you can't use poly wax with a long throw). Good test though. I had no idea Meg PP was going to be that good! I was always confused by the shampoo like consistency of PP
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I received an email from Brian young at griot's. He said poly was could be applied with the g21 and red pad.
 
The Guz said:
Nice to see you posting on here as well as on you IG account. Did those Air Re-Freshers I recommended come in yet?
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Hey Michael! They come in today and I'm going to use it on Friday! I will give you a shoutout after I use it.

sarcazmo said:
I received an email from Brian young at griot's. He said poly was could be applied with the g21 and red pad.
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yes perhaps at speeds too slow to achieve any paint correction. Sorry what I meant to say was poly wax + light abrasives at speeds fast enough to obtain even slight paint correction wouldn't work, because of the ingredients that give poly wax it's protection causes issues. So they had to ditch those protective ingredients for ones that focus more on appearance. Hence why AIO products don't last as long. This is what I was told when I was confused about the ingredients of finishing sealant and its connection to other GG sealants.

I just think the comparison would've been better between say HD Speed and Finishing Sealant. Or Poly Wax and Paint Protect. But I still loved the review! Half and half hood comparisons are the best! Lucky for you to have a neighbor to test on :) if anything I see this product as a comparison between AIO and true sealants. Which is an amazing comparison in itself. Thanks again!
 
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