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rwright said:
I understand what you're saying about the variables, but notice the common denominator?
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I really don't look at MF as the primary denominator. We're also not working with reagent grade mineral spirits or isopropyl alcohol.

I actually think that either product will normally work well. It's like Mark found with the stuff that got all over his vette that wouldn't come off with IPA. Certain solvents work better with certain contaminants.

Certain solvents may also work better with different humidity and temperature variables. From a chemistry standpoint, reactions are normally described at room temperature. Haven't you noticed how polishes react differently with temperature and humidity. Solvent capacity will change with temperature as well.

We all have our favorites and experiences. Use what works for you and don't worry about it too much. If you have marring with IPA, try MS. If you have a film on your paint that affect wax or sealant binding, try IPA. If you really worry about it, try the high end paint shop paint cleaning solvent. You need to be happy.

So far, I've had reasonable luck with IPA, complementary vendor polishes and various prewax paint cleaners. I've had streaking with IPA at times which required multiple wipedowns. I think I inflicted some marring one time when wiping down my paint with IPA. It could be the MF alone or the MF and contaminates. We live learn and try new things.

I honestly doubt that MS as a paint cleaning solvent causes serious wax or sealant binding issues. The real lesson, use what you like most and try other things when things don't work well.
 
07 z-oh-6 said:
After this thread, I've been using 70% IPA diluted 1:1 and it seems to work well.
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Hey Mark,

I was just messing with Dana because it was this thread and another one that got him a 2 week timeout from AG...

I buy my IPA by 5 gallon pails from Stoner...It is 99.98 percent so I can mix it to any dilution...It cost $115 but lasts forever.

Sean,,,,
 
Kurt_s said:
Certain solvents may also work better with different humidity and temperature variables. From a chemistry standpoint, reactions are normally described at room temperature. Haven't you noticed how polishes react differently with temperature and humidity. Solvent capacity will change with temperature as well.
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I think just to clear things up you should describe the solubility constant in terms of enthalpy and entropy with respect to temperature using a modified gibbs-helmholtz equation. Pretty simple calculus when you think about rate in terms of concentration of aluminum oxide(the most common abrasive) and the choice of solvent.
 
JonMiles said:
I think just to clear things up you should describe the solubility constant in terms of enthalpy and entropy with respect to temperature using a modified gibbs-helmholtz equation. Pretty simple calculus when you think about rate in terms of concentration of aluminum oxide(the most common abrasive) and the choice of solvent.
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Well that certainly cleared things up. :props:
 
I'm doing my car tomorrow with Wolfgang TSR,WFG and WDGPS after which step i should do my wipe down with MS or Isopropyl Alcohol. Is it true that certain paints may get stained by IPA solutions that are higher than 50/50
 
2SLICK4U said:
I'm doing my car tomorrow with Wolfgang TSR,WFG and WDGPS after which step i should do my wipe down with MS or Isopropyl Alcohol. Is it true that certain paints may get stained by IPA solutions that are higher than 50/50
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Wipedown with IPA after WG FG, but before WDGPS. Buy 70% IPA from the store and dilute it 1:1. You'll have 35% IPA which is perfect.
 
OMG.............. I would take my advise from a pro like Mike Phillips, who has been around longer than most on here and has his own company and product web site and tons of videos, knowledge, skill, know how's and tricks and I am sure awards to back him up on his mastery of the subject. Why would you argue with him. It's good to question and ask.....man...........
 
bradycat said:
OMG.............. I would take my advise from a pro like Mike Phillips, who has been around longer than most on here and has his own company and product web site and tons of videos, knowledge, skill, know how's and tricks and I am sure awards to back him up on his mastery of the subject. Why would you argue with him. It's good to question and ask.....man...........
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Just wondering why you dug up a couple of 8 year old Isopropyl Alcohol threads with nothing to add to the equation.
 
Well oh smart one, it's because I am new to auto detailing and I had this question and came across this thread. It might be 8 years to you, but it's now to me. So there you go!!
 
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