Is d151 enough ?

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Hey guys,

So I've been reading about this product and I would like to get your feedback before ordering a gallon. I heard some great comments about it on the megs forum but hey after all it is one of their products right ?

One of my future clients has a brand new 2010 subaru ( pearl white ) and hes complaining about having some light swirls and i thought this could be a good product to fix that issue. I'm assuming since the car is a 2010 and being white a single step would be enough to give it a nice shine.

Lastly, what kinda of pad would you guys recommend to be used with a DA ?

Thanks a lot :props:
 
A tangerine HT pad with 151 will do a outstanding job.....151 is a great AIO and the cost is great.
 
Well i was reading on another forum its seems like its a product made for quick jobs ( used car dealers,body shops), dont want to offer that kind of job ...

What would be a better option for a car with minor swirls ?

m205 ?

thanks!
 
there are alot of folks that use it all the time outside of production detailing-really good stuff.recently i have used sonax paint cleaner/aio,it actually has non diminishing abrasives in it[like smat] that gives good working time.i think 151 has smat also[dont know for sure]but one white paint i think 151 would work just fine.at ads you can get 151 in 12oz.bottles
 
I think D151 would work fine, I would use a white pad. IDK how well it would finish down with an orange pad but who knows. Most people I talk to don't even notice swirls period. Even on a black car. If this guy sees them on his white car he must really pay attention to it.

On a side note: MARK GOT A NEW PICTURE!
 
Well i was reading on another forum its seems like its a product made for quick jobs ( used car dealers,body shops), dont want to offer that kind of job ...


D151 is a one-step cleaner/wax and it's targeted at and formulated for doing one-step production work. Keep in mind that making a profit as a detailer means for the most part doing as few steps as possible and doing them as fast as you can.

If you're doing production type detailing then you NEED a good one-step because doing a multiple step process will take so much time you won't make a profit.

Now if you're not a detailer, but simply an enthusiast that likes to buff out cars, you can invest more time into a detailing project because there's no profit motive.

If you're doing this for profit and you want to do show car detailing, then you need to charge more money as it's going to take you more time and you're going to invest more money into your products and pads to do multiple steps.

D151 is a SMAT product and it does a good job of removing fine or shallow swirls but it's not a replacement for a true compounding step.

You can get more swirl removal ability out of it by,

  • Using and aggressive pad
  • Working a smaller area, much smaller than 2' x 2', try 1' x 1' and while the job will take longer you're remove more paint for each section you buff and removing swirls is all about removing paint and leveling the surface.
  • Moving the polisher slowly, not quickly
  • Using and maintaining firm downward pressure

Removing swirls means removing paint. When you use a one-step cleaner wax you're asking the product to,
  1. Remove paint
  2. Polish the surface to a high gloss
  3. Leave behind some type of protective coating
That's a lot to ask a single product to do in one step AND leave a nice looking finish... but it can be done...


What would be a better option for a car with minor swirls ?

m205 ?

thanks!

M205 is a fine to ultra fine polish, it's not as aggressive as D151, so "no" if all other factors were kept the same it would not do a better job of removing paint thatn D151


:)
 
From my article list under

Compounds - Polishes - Paint Cleaners - Cleaner/Polishes - Pure Polishes - Glazes

The SMAT Pack - Everything you ever wanted to know about Meguiar's SMAT products...

The Aggressiveness Order of SMAT Products - This might surprise you!



Super Micro Abrasive Technology = SMAT
From left to right, the most aggressive to the least aggressive SMAT products
SMATaggressivenessOrder.jpg




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If this guy sees them on his white car he must really pay attention to it.

Im worried about this!

Mike i read the whole article about d151 and the only think you mention about the pads is " Choose appropriate Meguiar's' buffing pad" so i checked the description for d151 and they don't mention anything about the pad either, they only talk about their DA machine.

Thanks again!
 
Light swirls? D151 is perfect! Use it with an orange or white pad.


This would be my recommendation as well. Just remember, just because you use products that save you time it doesnt mean you're a low end detailer. I use d151 regularly.
 
alright guys ill go ahead and purchase a gallon! hopefully ill do a nice job! fingers crossed.
 
Im worried about this!

Mike i read the whole article about d151 and the only think you mention about the pads is " Choose appropriate Meguiar's' buffing pad" so i checked the description for d151 and they don't mention anything about the pad either, they only talk about their DA machine.

Thanks again!


By saying,

"Choose appropriate Meguiar's' buffing pad"


That means for more aggressive abrading power choose a cutting pad. For gentle cleaning power, choose a polishing or even a finishing pad.

See this article,


Factors that affect how aggressive or non-aggressive a product is...



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