FUNX650
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Is It Possible to Chemically Strip Sealants?
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umi000
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In some cases, you don't really want to abrasively polish the paint, but you do want it stripped. I personally feel that non-abrasive pre-wax cleaners are a very valuable part of my detailing arsenal - particularly since it's surprisingly difficult to find mineral spirits or panel wipe in the Philippines.
How do you go about using it? with bottle and sprayer?
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Windex with ammonia will work.
FUNX650
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If the Phillipines has body shops/auto-painters...
Surely there are non-abrasive paint cleaners such as PrepSol, or its ilk, available
for when those occasional "stripping" tasks are deemed necessary.
Bob
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If the Phillipines has body shops/auto-painters...
Surely there are non-abrasive paint cleaners such as PrepSol, or its ilk, available
for when those occasional "stripping" tasks are deemed necessary.
Bob
Sure, there are body shops - but it's more convenient to buy a bottle at the mall (we have lots of malls, some of them among the largest malls in the world, at least according to Wikipedia), perhaps while having lunch or buying other things, than it is to go out of your way to visit a paint/body shop. The body shops can be a bit of a drive (due to both distance and traffic) from the main commercial/business areas.
Also, a lot of body shops over here are... less than professional about how they work - sealed booths are a rarity, and it's common to see body shops spraying the paint in an open garage right beside a busy road. When the shops are put up by people with little formal training - you could almost call it a cottage industry over here - there's little assurance that they follow proper paint prep.
I guess what I'm saying is, it's a different country, so what may make sense to you over there, isn't necessarily the case over here - in the case, the assumption that you can easily obtain paint-prep solvents (and believe me, the various members of our detailing community have put some effort into finding an easily accessible source for these, to no avail).
FUNX650
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I understand.
Before there was one-stop shopping, such as provided by online retailers like AGO...
I had to drive all over the place to pick-up certain detailing supplies (or settle on what was available closer to home).
Bob
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Hi Roshan...
1.)
-Probably PrepSol
-Because it's a DuPont product
-Because it's like using: "souped-up"<<<(showing my age again...LOL) mineral spirits.
Note:
I've used all of the above solvents and am glad to report there are no: Losers...amongst them.
2.) From DuPont PrepSol's MSDS:
Handling and Storage Precautions:
-OBSERVE LABEL PRECAUTIONS
-KEEP AWAY FROM HEAT/SPARKS/FLAMES
-CLOSE CONTAINER AFTER EACH USE
-GROUND CONTAINERS WHEN POURING
-DONT STORE >120F
Other Precautions:
DONT SAND/FLAME CUT/BRAZE/WELD DRY COATING W/O
NIOSH/MSHA APPROVED RESPIRATOR OR APPROPRIATE VENTILATION.
Hazards:
Routes of Entry:
Inhalation:YES; Skin:YES; Ingestion:NO
Reports of Carcinogenicity:
NTP:NO IARC:NO OSHA:NO
Health Hazards Acute and Chronic:
-INHALATION: MAY CAUSE NOSE/THROAT IRRITATION.
-MAY CAUSE NERVOUS SYSTEM DEPRESSION CHARACTERIZED BY THE FOLLOWING PROGRESSIVE STEPS:
HEADACHE, DIZZINESS, NAUSEA, STAGGERING GAIT, CONFUSION, UNCONSCIENCENESS.
-REPORTS HAVE ASSOCIATED PREPSOL AND OTHER SOLVENTS OVEREXPOSURE W/PERMANENT BRAIN/NERVOUS SYSTEM DAMAGE
-SKIN/EYE:MAY CAUSE IRRITATION, BURNING OF EYES
-LIQUID CONTACT MAY CAUSE SKIN IRRITATION W/DISCOMFORT, DERMATITIS
____________________________________________________________________________________________________
The other, above solvents will have similar precautions/warnings as their common denominators.
Hope this helps some.
Bob
Thank you very much Bob! Looks like I'll be picking up PrepSol
rops:What is your preferred method of application?
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To tell everyone what happened, I ended up polishing the sealant off with Amigo. Traditionally, every 4 months or so I change my LSP. I always do a sealant topped by a wax. This time, after I polished the sealant away, I did something different.
I just use a glaze topped with a wax - no sealant. The car is garage kept, and only driven on nice days. So, a sealant isn't really necessary. The wax I used was Capture the Rapture over Wet Glaze 2.0. Also applied DLux to some of the trim.
I'm working on a review of those products.
I just use a glaze topped with a wax - no sealant. The car is garage kept, and only driven on nice days. So, a sealant isn't really necessary. The wax I used was Capture the Rapture over Wet Glaze 2.0. Also applied DLux to some of the trim.
I'm working on a review of those products.
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I always enjoy your reviews but I thought that Wet Glaze was, once again, an extinct product?
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I think you're right: I tried to restock last month and the European distributor said it was no longer being produced (it seems that the zombie that had risen from the dead has been shot in the head...). It's sad: it was a great product!
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Its a dead duck. It came from the mysterious Detail Shoppe - the mystery of mail order car care supplies. Pak Shak and Amazon had it for a while as well.
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I'm glad I got a bottle before it was discontinued then - I've read very positive feedback from the people who've used it.
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It really seems like PBMG should pick up this product--who's going to talk to Meghan about it?
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Wet glaze is (was) the best glaze I've ever used, without equal, and I have tried all the so called "popular" glazes.
It's hard to imagine that somebody would not buy the rights to this product. It's the ONR of glazes and unlike other glazes, its a true glaze. It can be applied before or after any wax or sealant.
It's hard to imagine that somebody would not buy the rights to this product. It's the ONR of glazes and unlike other glazes, its a true glaze. It can be applied before or after any wax or sealant.
That would presume some indisputable evidence and agreement on what can strip sealants, and whether 1) those ingredients are present in WG2.0 in the right proportion, and 2) other ingredients in WG2.0 don't affect the result.
In any case, Amigo is unique in that it (according to Prima) can serve as a paint cleaner and a glaze and a polish, to varying degrees (affected by the pad choice and application method). Duly noted that you have expressed doubts about these sorts of claims from any product which brands itself in that paint cleaner category.
In consideration of the above, the Wet Glaze was somewhat redundant atop Amigo and complicates any assessment of the result. It would either need to completely remove all traces of Amigo, or need to happily coexist with it. I doubt anyone has indisputable data on that, either way.
Prima Amigo (again according to Prima) will strip Prima's sealants such as Epic, and also provide a base that improves the bond of a Prima sealant applied at the next step. It's unknown whether any or all that applies to Prima Amigo followed by products from other manufacturers.
I've been very pleased with the results and longevity of Prima Amigo followed by Epic, and periodically refreshed with Prima Hydro. Beats me, if Prima's claims of what the products do and how they do it are 100% accurate, but I sure like the result and that's the important thing.