Is sealant dead?

good post and opinions jim. ill try a coating when i can get my nerve up!

hope you are well. by the way what was the clemson/auburn score? sorry just couldnt resist that one!

kind regards
bud
 
Anyone notice a pronounced orange peel with these coatings? I used Nanolex on the roof and opti-coat on the rest. Both made a more orange peel look than before. Maybe I am just loosing my mind!! Children and lack of sleep can do it.
 
loudog2 said:
Anyone notice a pronounced orange peel with these coatings? I used Nanolex on the roof and opti-coat on the rest. Both made a more orange peel look than before. Maybe I am just loosing my mind!! Children and lack of sleep can do it.
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I havent seen that.
 
It is only dead if you think it is otherwise it is just another product choice.
 
Bunky said:
It is only dead if you think it is otherwise it is just another product choice.
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Sealants were the mainstay if of my arsenal until Coatings. I dont think I will go back to them!
 
For me their not dead at all. I like to try out new sealants and waxes. I feel some of them provide a look that just can't be matched by a semi-permanent coating. Although through time certain types of sealant's or wax's might dwindle in my collection, they will always have their place.
 
I believe these new Nano coating will eventually edge out the conventional sealants in the short run. I think waxes are considered "old sachool" buy people in the know, unless you are talking super high end products like Swissvax and then those are boutique.

People who don't know any better will go to auto barn and pick up a wax thinking they are protecting their cars.

These nano coating will continue to get better, easier to apply, more resistant to wash marring and environmental issues (iron, bird poop) and longer lasting with better self cleaning and water shedding properties. Then the price wars will ensue, bottles will get smaller and I believe the birth of single use ampules will be born.

Technology is great !
 
JSFM35x said:
I think waxes are considered "old sachool" buy people in the know, unless you are talking super high end products like Swissvax and then those are boutique. People who don't know any better will go to auto barn and pick up a wax thinking they are protecting their cars.
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But most products that are labeled as "wax" are either sealants or hybrid products that contain natural waxes as well as synthetic ingredients. I think a lot of people here are "in the know" and don't consider products like Collinite to be "old school", heck, I still like #16 for winter.

JSFM35x said:
Then the price wars will ensue, bottles will get smaller and I believe the birth of single use ampules will be born. Technology is great !
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Technology, wars, ampules...man, I think you have been watching too much SyFy channel!
 
JSFM35x said:
I believe these new Nano coating will eventually edge out the conventional sealants in the short run. I think waxes are considered "old sachool" buy people in the know, unless you are talking super high end products like Swissvax and then those are boutique.

People who don't know any better will go to auto barn and pick up a wax thinking they are protecting their cars.

These nano coating will continue to get better, easier to apply, more resistant to wash marring and environmental issues (iron, bird poop) and longer lasting with better self cleaning and water shedding properties. Then the price wars will ensue, bottles will get smaller and I believe the birth of single use ampules will be born.

Technology is great !
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I can barely hold the tiny bottles now! Please no smaller!
 
STOP!! They are not..its not even debatable.

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Fussman
 
I always use a sealant then top it with wax. Bfwd + Bf ms.
 
For those using the new coatings, I would not top them with another sealant or a carnuba wax. It serves no purpose, and makes no CENT$. Once you top a coating, you are taking away the advantages of that coating. Some would argue that you can never have too much protection when it comes to paint. I disagree.

Coatings are not for everybody, especially those who are always applying new products and experimenting with whatever the new flavor of the month is.

Coatings in my view are for the the "set it and forget it" crowd.
 
Coating will never completely replace wax and sealants and won't really gain popularity with the general public until they are foolproof to apply. Long way to go in that regard.
 
silverfox said:
Coatings in my view are for the the "set it and forget it" crowd.
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I don't really think this is the case. I have it (haven't had a chance to use it yet since I've been gone for 3weeks from home) but I got it for the purpose of adding extra protection to the clear coat. I have no intention of applying one of these (I have both) and not touching the car again. I really think these coatings were designed for the people that truly care about their car at which point I feel they will be the ones to continue regular upkeep.
 
silverfox said:
For those using the new coatings, I would not top them with another sealant or a carnuba wax. It serves no purpose, and makes no CENT$. Once you top a coating, you are taking away the advantages of that coating. Some would argue that you can never have too much protection when it comes to paint. I disagree.

Coatings are not for everybody, especially those who are always applying new products and experimenting with whatever the new flavor of the month is.

Coatings in my view are for the the "set it and forget it" crowd.
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I agree with you, but want to add that you can play with the Coating toppers with an enhancement to the coating. Car Pro ReLoad, G|Techniq C2 or Permanon. These boost durabiliity and enhance hydrophobic behavior. Also add a glass like smoother surface IME!
 
silverfox said:
For those using the new coatings, I would not top them with another sealant or a carnuba wax. It serves no purpose, and makes no CENT$. Once you top a coating, you are taking away the advantages of that coating. Some would argue that you can never have too much protection when it comes to paint. I disagree.

Coatings are not for everybody, especially those who are always applying new products and experimenting with whatever the new flavor of the month is.

Coatings in my view are for the the "set it and forget it" crowd.
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100% agree but this commentary was geared to this audience.
 
TS656577 said:
I don't really think this is the case. I have it (haven't had a chance to use it yet since I've been gone for 3weeks from home) but I got it for the purpose of adding extra protection to the clear coat. I have no intention of applying one of these (I have both) and not touching the car again. I really think these coatings were designed for the people that truly care about their car at which point I feel they will be the ones to continue regular upkeep.
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I agree that we wont forget. Try the boosters I mention above !
 
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