Is sonax fe hazardous material?

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I flew to AZ for vacation and packed some detailing supplies to clean a family members car, I packed FE and upon getting here I found it removed from suitcase, no tsa note or anything. We called American airline who said if it's hazardous they don't need to leave a note. This was in a checked bag in a Ziploc bag. They took it but left my Wolfgang interior and exterior sealant! So is this considered a hazmat product?

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Maybe because it said FE they thought it was iron oxide or something. Or maybe the guy checking bags jacked u lol

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I want to say no, but how does it get to the U.S. if it's imported from Europe? Boat? lol

Maybe because it's a iron remover? I doubt the TSA knows their Sonax products lol
 
GenesisCoupe said:
I want to say no, but how does it get to the U.S. if it's imported from Europe? Boat? lol

Maybe because it's a iron remover? I doubt the TSA knows their Sonax products lol
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Maybe the TSA agent is a Sonax fanboy and stole it
 
It depends what the define as being hazardous. Hazardous from a (EU) transport perspective - I don't believe so. Hazardous such that it has a hazard symbol, yes. If I am not mistaken, it should have an 'X' and be considered 'harmful'.

It could also be that they smelled it. In the UK it would fall into the description as foul smelling and the postal service could certainly throw such an item on this basis.
 
You must be too young to remember the National Guardsmen with M-16's at the passenger checkin. But regardless, I would never put something that smelled that bad in my suitcase even if the TSA wasn't looking for chemical bombs.

I'm with PiPUK...they probably smelled it and decided it wasn't worth the risk of letting it on the plane. Remember they were taking away nail clippers from passengers ("I'll nip you to death!"), so it's not like they take many chances.
 
Well, I don't know what the 'x' means, but all the other reactions could said for shampoo, body wash, mouth wash. I'll just take the msds sheet and see what they say.

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parttimer said:
Well, I don't know what the 'x' means, but all the other reactions could said for shampoo, body wash, mouth wash. I'll just take the msds sheet and see what they say.
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I'd stop while you're ahead...the TSA isn't a very reasonable bunch. Arguing with them isn't going to get your product back, and may get you a visit from the FBI.

In future it might be better to UPS your supplies ahead of your trip. That's what I started to do with anything questionable after 9/11, at one time they would hold your boarding pass until your checked baggage had been screened, so you really didn't want anything to hold up the process.
 
AA said I could stop up at their office and they would look at sheet and let me know. I thought about ups the stuff but didn't feel like spending 50 when that wouldn't even ship everything.

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According to the MSDS it shouldn't go into the soil or water. So hope you put some kind of containment unit up.
 
What's more, I wouldn't take that MSDS to a US authority and attempt to argue - it is in the European format and you wouldn't want them to find that there was something listed on there that there shouldn't be!
 
PiPUK said:
What's more, I wouldn't take that MSDS to a US authority and attempt to argue - it is in the European format and you wouldn't want them to find that there was something listed on there that there shouldn't be!
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Also the GHS Format?

This is the MSDS I received, when I requested one for this wheel cleaner, that I bought here in the States.
Go figure!

I sure hope the OP isn't planning on changing any Officials' minds on this product being allowed anywhere on an airplane!

Bob
 
FUNX725 said:
Also the GHS Format?

This is the MSDS I received, when I requested one for this wheel cleaner, that I bought here in the States.
Go figure!
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It is GHS format but I understood that you guys have additional requirements. I could be wrong.

MSDS are a minefield - not commenting on Sonax but there are several brands which have made it to your shores and their MSDS are works of fiction and totally inappropriate. I don't know what your competent authority is like but they could easily block a variety of products for sale on H&S grounds (and, I suspect, fire out fines to those who have become distributors, without doing all the obligatory background).
 
PiPUK said:
MSDS are a minefield - but there are several brands which have made it to your shores and their MSDS are works of fiction and totally inappropriate. I don't know what your competent authority is like but they could easily block a variety of products for sale on H&S grounds (and, I suspect, fire out fines to those who have become distributors, without doing all the obligatory background).
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Chronically underfunded. Lobbyists have successfully defined "regulation" as the cause for the demise of manufacturing in this country (rather than global economic factors, executive strategy, etc.). I would bet that checking that the form is filled out properly is the only examination done, and that there is zero actual checking/testing that the information is correct.

And no, I think distributors would be blameless here, it would be the mfr. that would take all the responsibility.
 
6.1 Personal precautions, protective equipment and emergency procedures
Ensure adequate ventilation
Wear protective equipment. Keep unprotected persons away.
6.2 Environmental precautions:
Do not allow to penetrate the ground/soil.
Do not allow to enter sewers/ surface or ground water.
6.3 Methods and material for containment and cleaning up:
Absorb with liquid-binding material (sand, diatomite, acid binders, universal binders, sawdust).
Dispose contaminated material as waste according to item 13.
6.4 Reference to other sections
See Section 7 for information on safe handling.
See Section 8 for information on personal protection equipment.

7.2 Conditions for safe storage, including any incompatibilities
Storage:
Requirements to be met by storerooms and receptacles: Prevent any seepage into the ground.
Information about storage in one common storage facility:
Store away from oxidizing agents.
Do not store together with alkalis (caustic solutions).
Do not store together with acids.
Store away from foodstuffs.
Further information about storage conditions:
Store receptacle in a well ventilated area.
Protect from frost.
Recommended storage temperature: 20 °C

If I didn't know anything about the product, I'd probably pull it off a plane as well.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
And no, I think distributors would be blameless here, it would be the mfr. that would take all the responsibility.
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Unless the manufacturer was not domestic - in which case the importer takes responsibility.

This is something which the UK guys don't understand. There are a number of 'shops' who are importing products without realising that they would be in blatant breach of our H&S regs and without realising that, as the importer, the blame falls squarely on their shoulders!
 
Maybe consider contacting Evans Chemetics... :dunno:

They may know a thing or two about Sonax and the properties of 'color changing' wheel cleaners--well at least their parent company will. They are in fact the leaders in that category.

Just a hunch.
 
PiPUK said:
Unless the manufacturer was not domestic - in which case the importer takes responsibility.
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Yes sorry, I think you are correct that the importer would have the responsibility in that/this case. I think we are just getting a little mixed up with terms. When you said "distributors" I associated that with companies like Autogeek, etc., rather than the importer, who is likely the only actual distributor in this case. My apologies.
 
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