KILLER CAR WASH - Wolfgang Uber SiO2 Coating Wash

So some time has passed since I first used this.........


Seriously this shampoo is amazing. Regular maintenance washes produce such amazing gloss with amazing water beading. The soap is lubious that with proper wash technique, no swirls are are instilled. Every square inch is beading including glass, plastics and even matte finishes.

If your a pro Detailer, this is you one stop wash and wax that actually provides some serious protection and gloss.

I love this shampoo. While it’s super pricy, it does perform amazingly well.


Also this is not your super sudsy type of wash. While the misconception is suds make lubricious washes, that is far from true. The wash solution without the suds is what makes a wash lubrious.
 
Wow!

Some nice words there, Dr

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Dr Oldz said:
So some time has passed since I first used this.........


Seriously this shampoo is amazing. Regular maintenance washes produce such amazing gloss with amazing water beading. The soap is lubious that with proper wash technique, no swirls are are instilled. Every square inch is beading including glass, plastics and even matte finishes.

If your a pro Detailer, this is you one stop wash and wax that actually provides some serious protection and gloss.

I love this shampoo. While it’s super pricy, it does perform amazingly well.


Also this is not your super sudsy type of wash. While the misconception is suds make lubricious washes, that is far from true. The wash solution without the suds is what makes a wash lubrious.
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I 100% agree with your assessment. I have the exact same experience when I wash my own cars.

A tick on the pricey side. What I do is mix up 3 gallons of water in a 5-gallon bucket and then add 3 ounces of wash. Then I MIX it thoroughly. Been thinking about getting a paint mixer for a drill to REALLY mix it up.

I show this product to all my friends. I tell them to wait for the 25% or even 30% sale via the AG newsletter and then buy!


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Now is the time to get this. It’s on sale plus the 25% off. I’m contemplating getting another gallon at that price.
 
briarpatch said:
I'm guessing a lot of people who have read this thread, and looked at the price. had the same reaction I did (they're just smarter than me so they didn't voice it). For someone like me, 32.99 is way too much to pay for a 16oz bottle, let alone 160.00 for a gallon of it. Maybe if my vehicles were coated, I'd try it up against McKees SiO2 wash to see if it really is three times better, because it costs three times as much (per gallon), and twice as much if you buy the 16oz size.
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I am a very firm believer in "the economics of a purchase", because at fundamental levels ..... sellers of products toe-the-line with their marketing between "maximizing profit" and offering "real, intrinsic value to the customer". I'm in no way opposed to boutique products, as my inventory can attest to some discretionary purchases. At these prices, seems that marketers are trying to carve a niche in the mindset of customers that "expensive" must mean "better".

Mike Phillips said:
I’m glad you did voice your opinion. That’s also why I contrasted the cost of an actual paint correction and coating install. Neither option is what most people would call “cheap” and of course the full meal deal is the best option for true car enthusiasts.

I’ll keep an eye on my own cars and watch the performance of this car wash over time and then update this thread.

Next time there’s a 25% off sale - that would be the time to consider it - at least to test out.

Thanks for chiming in. :dblthumb2:
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Mike, no offense intended here and with all due respect here is my $0.02.....

First, I liked your review. In the narrow view of "just Wolfgang", probably a really solid product. That said, AGO sells more than just Wolfgang so comparing these products with the price of a full detail & coating is apples 'n' oranges at a fundamental level and can be misleading in some interpretations. How about comparing the $1.68/oz product (Wolfgang's 8 oz version) with a competing product sold on AGO running at $0.32/oz? Now, if you did that I for one would see parity from a renowned expert in the industry.
 
FWIW I also agree that this product produces a great shine and slickness.

Now I have a question. I ordered the Wolfgang Wash and Wax by mistake, the BOGO the other day thinking it was the Uber Si02 ( Super senior moment brain fart). I decided to keep it and maybe alternate the two products when washing our cars.

Would it make any sense to mix the two products in my wash bucket to get benefit of the Si02 and carnuba (in the wash wax). Just thinking!!!
 
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Just to note - right now there is a 50% off sale for this product. It's exactly what I say it is. So this is the time to buy it to test it out or if you've already trusted me and purchased it and found it to be what I say it is then this is the time to stock up.


PBMG brands 50% off sale

The sale is good for 24 hours and at the time I'm posting this, 11:00pm on Thursday, March 26, 2020 you have 13 more hours to get in while the getting is good.



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JustJesus hooked me up with a 16oz bottle the last time he stopped by to drop off a prototype coating bottle holder.

He didn’t know that I don’t like ceramic infused soaps and I wasn’t going to tell him that as he offered this out of the goodness of his heart.

The reason I don’t like them is they leave a weird film build up if used often. Similar to my dislike for wash & wax soaps. So if it’s used monthly that would be better.

But this worked pretty good. I did notice the beading change after using this compared to the coating that is on the paint. Which for me is a turn off as I always prefer the performance of the coating itself. It did leave the surface slick afterwards and I can see why people like it. It did “repair” the area where I was trying a water spot remover that killed the beading.

For those that like high suds, then this is not a soap that you will like. The suds disperse pretty quickly. Just like Gyeon Bathe+ and Americana Global Ceramic Shampoo. It gets to the point where it’s like skipping around water during the wash process.

I should also mention it is not the strongest wash when it comes to cleaning.

Also the dilution ratio is 2 oz for every 3-5 gallons of water which makes it rather expensive.

Overall it’s pretty good but not something I would personally buy as I would rather use something like CarPro Reset and follow up with the drying aid of my choice for a ceramic coated vehicle.
 
The Guz said:
For those that like high suds, then this is not a soap that you will like. The suds disperse pretty quickly. Just like Gyeon Bathe+ and Americana Global Ceramic Shampoo. It gets to the point where it’s like skipping around water during the wash process.

I should also mention it is not the strongest wash when it comes to cleaning.

Overall it’s pretty good but not something I would personally buy as I would rather use something like CarPro Reset and follow up with the drying aid of my choice for a ceramic coated vehicle.
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Nuff said. I also prefer a soap like Carpro Reset. High suds, great cleaning power, excellent dilution ratio.
 
The Guz said:
JustJesus hooked me up with a 16oz bottle the last time he stopped by to drop off a prototype coating bottle holder.

He didn’t know that I don’t like ceramic infused soaps and I wasn’t going to tell him that as he offered this out of the goodness of his heart.

The reason I don’t like them is they leave a weird film build up if used often. Similar to my dislike for wash & wax soaps. So if it’s used monthly that would be better.

But this worked pretty good. I did notice the beading change after using this compared to the coating that is on the paint. Which for me is a turn off as I always prefer the performance of the coating itself. It did leave the surface slick afterwards and I can see why people like it. It did “repair” the area where I was trying a water spot remover that killed the beading.

For those that like high suds, then this is not a soap that you will like. The suds disperse pretty quickly. Just like Gyeon Bathe+ and Americana Global Ceramic Shampoo. It gets to the point where it’s like skipping around water during the wash process.

I should also mention it is not the strongest wash when it comes to cleaning.

Also the dilution ratio is 2 oz for every 3-5 gallons of water which makes it rather expensive.

Overall it’s pretty good but not something I would personally buy as I would rather use something like CarPro Reset and follow up with the drying aid of my choice for a ceramic coated vehicle.
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Some interesting points here Guz.

I like this as a maintenance wash category but not every wash. Basically I use it as a “when needed”
It really adds some protection and will boost an aging coating rather significantly.

For me it works well in the maintenance wash for clients. Wash, blow dry and send out the door while adding some serious protection.

Another thing in my testing is that I see up to 3.5 months durability from just a shampoo. Impressed me.

Perhaps not the soap for everyone as it has its pros and cons but it certainly is nice to have it as an option. I personally like it a lot!
 
Dr Oldz said:
Perhaps not the soap for everyone as it has its pros and cons but it certainly is nice to have it as an option. I personally like it a lot!
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It certainly excels at what it’s good at and has it’s place. Definitely awesome stuff for friends, family (and I’m sure clients) who get car washes on occasion and don’t constantly protect their car. I look forward to using this in the winter when I’m able to do a wash on a warm day to refresh whatever ceramic-style protection I’m rolling with.
 
Dr Oldz said:
Some interesting points here Guz.

I like this as a maintenance wash category but not every wash. Basically I use it as a “when needed”
It really adds some protection and will boost an aging coating rather significantly.

For me it works well in the maintenance wash for clients. Wash, blow dry and send out the door while adding some serious protection.

Another thing in my testing is that I see up to 3.5 months durability from just a shampoo. Impressed me.

Perhaps not the soap for everyone as it has its pros and cons but it certainly is nice to have it as an option. I personally like it a lot!
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I am not a fan of most ceramic shampoos as they just lack in overall performance compared to a dedicated wash as I mentioned. If it was not for Jesus giving me a bottle I would have never purchased it as I have zero interest in ceramic soaps. I have a half bottle of bathe+ that I have been kicking around for a couple years that is about to find its way into the trash lol. It does work just don't care for it. Same can be said for carpro hydro foam. I am just anti-ceramic and anti-wash and wax soaps.
 
I made this video a couple weeks ago. Yes this soap does indeed do what it says in leaving protection. The strong beading has diminished quite a bit in 3 weeks time.

 
I've used it. Loved the results at 1st. Used the wash over a fresh polish on my black truck with 2 coats of WGDGPS applied. Was using this as a maintenance wash over the winter whenever we had a warm enough day - once a month maybe? Towards spring, I noticed a weird hazing and weird spotting. At first I thought it was water spots(I have hard water), but realized it was the coating build up when I tried to polish it off with a spray and wipe. Made one hell of a mess. Turned all streaky and blotchy. Had to polish it with the D/A to remove the ceramic coat remnants.

As much as I love polishing my vehicles, I honestly think this polish was a waste of my time. This site has helped me correctly swirl free wash my vehicles in a way where a once a year polish is more than enough to maintain that gorgeous black paint.

In conclusion:
Did it work in protecting the finish? Yes
Did it produce a high gloss and slick finish even on black? Yes
Is it an easy product to use? Yes
Is it something I will be keeping in my arsenal? No
I am also a very thorough and picky person when I do anything. If you have a light colored car, maybe you wouldn't even notice the blotchyness that I experienced.

Even though this is a somewhat negative review, I would suggest that you come to your own conclusions. It is a very good product for the right person - myself not being one of them!

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To piggyback along with briarpatch said, this is $12 more than carPro Hydrofoam, which works amazingly well for me, is this worth 12 bucks more?
 
Great feedback everyone...


I"m going to add this just for perspective. This wash isn't a replacement for a normal coating or any type of LSP. It's a maintenance wash.

You use it on a regular basis to maintain a hydrophobic surface.

I would also add it's not meant to be a super duper cleaning soap for grossly dirty cars, that's the job of a stronger car wash. This is for people that already regularly take care of their cars, not for prep washing.

When I coat a car for a customer I wholeheartedly recommend this wash as a way of taking care of my hard work. Most of my customer's are not "detailers" and they don't want to take up detailing as a hobby. They want to trust me to do the work and then recommend how to maintain the results. Knowing this, I wrote this article. I send the link to the owner of every car I coat.


With this in mind, (that most customer's don't want to become thier own detailer), click the link and read what I wrote. I hope you'll agree that for the average car owner willing to take ownership of the car wash process, this is a thorough, well-thought out article that removes ALL THE THINKING on their part.

Just buy the stuff and wash and dry carefully - or TOUCH the coated car carefully.


Things you need to wash a ceramic coated car by Mike Phillips

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What you said Mike is right on!!! Our 2 daily drivers (tho not much driving, more sitting outside) are both black and every wash gets the Coating Wash and they look great with excellent hydrophobics. 2 oz in 3 gal does the trick.
 
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