Klasse ALIO and Klasse Glaze

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I just purchased the red bottle All-in-One. I want to use it just as a sexy sealant for the weather. I jsut realized that there are two kinds. the Polish and the Glaze. I dont have a polisher or any applicators for swirls. Can I still use the All-in-One that I currently have just like normal even though its not the Glaze? Am I still going to have the sexy acrylic sealant? Should I return my All-in-One for the glaze or am I fine to go ahead and apply the ALIO and drool at the results?
 
The Klasse AIO won't do much for the swirls, but it is an excellent cleaner/prep that is very easy to use.
Your vehicle will probably look great, but the Klasse AIO didn't have much durability in my experience.
I used it as a base for a last step product with more durability.
 
The AIO (red bottle) is a "paint cleaner" or "chemical polish" that will leave an acrylic layer perfect for the Sealant Glaze to adhere to. I would suggest grabbing a bottle of the sealant as the "Klasse Twins" are an excellent pair. Either way, applying Klasse AIO will leave you with a beautiful paint surface ready for the LSP of your choice. Do not expect much correction especially by hand and don't let it dry on the paint "Wipe on Wipe off". My $0.02 :cheers:
 
Thanks guys!
I got my NoRinse in the mail today and just used it...wow. Simply amazing. I cant express how satisfied I am. Now I have the AINO, you guys say its a cleaner. So its the same thing as my Pinnacle Paint Cleansing Lotion? I already have 2 layers of Purple Haze on, so if I apply the AINO- it will strip the wax?
 
02blackout said:
Thanks guys!
I got my NoRinse in the mail today and just used it...wow. Simply amazing. I cant express how satisfied I am. Now I have the AINO, you guys say its a cleaner. So its the same thing as my Pinnacle Paint Cleansing Lotion? I already have 2 layers of Purple Haze on, so if I apply the AINO- it will strip the wax?
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I'm not familiar with the PPCL, but going by the name, I would guess the PPCL doesn't leave any protection behind. The KAIO does although I don't personally feel that protection is all that great.
I have no idea what "Purple Haze" is, but yes, the KAIO will pretty much remove any wax/sealant on your paint when it is used.
That's why I consider it to be a good cleaner/prep product.It leaves the finish clean and looking great for your LSP to be applied.
 
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Ive only ever used aio as a first step after buffing following with sealant glaze and or wax or a one step like xmt 360 it cleans corrects and protects in one step. Check the bottle I just looked at mine and it says it removes old wax build up and all kinds of other stuff so if you have wax on already I would not use this over it. Used as the first step before a wax or as a 1 step process Klasse AIO is great stuff in my opinion Im always amazed at what it does to the paint.

There is a thread called "1 step product" i posted some pics of a Black Mazda Tribute after using Klasse AIO they are iphone pics so not the greatest quality but its good enough to see the difference. :dblthumb2:
 
Klasse AIO (red) is a cleaner synthetic wax product that uses an acrylic base. It does offer some protection and matches show waxes IMO for length of protection. (3-4 weeks max). When used with SG (silver canister) which is the pure sealant it makes a bulletproof combo for months. It should easily last thru a winter.

I used AIO by itself for some time. Added a spray on top of it weekly to add more gloss and good looks. If you decide to go this route try Four Star Spray Wax, Souveran Spray Wax, Wolfgang Spray Sealant, Optimum Wax, or many others.
 
killrwheels@autogeek said:
Klasse AIO (red) is a cleaner synthetic wax product that uses an acrylic base. It does offer some protection and matches show waxes IMO for length of protection. (3-4 weeks max). When used with SG (silver canister) which is the pure sealant it makes a bulletproof combo for months. It should easily last thru a winter.

I used AIO by itself for some time. Added a spray on top of it weekly to add more gloss and good looks. If you decide to go this route try Four Star Spray Wax, Souveran Spray Wax, Wolfgang Spray Sealant, Optimum Wax, or many others.
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I'm very confused about the lack of durability claims about Klasse AIO. I was under the impresions this was a top notch product offering superior durability against salt water, sun, industrial pollutants, and corrosive elements for 6-8 months as stated on the back of the bottle. Now if you say something lasts 6-8 months and get 5 months out of it ok you might say it's dependant on the environment but when you say 6-8 months and you see claims of 1 month or less something is wrong. This borders on false advertising and I find it hard to believe a product that has been around as long as Klasse has could continue to make claims such as this with customers getting such poor results.

Something is out of wak here
1. How do we measure durability
is it measured by beading? If so dirt dust and pollen ca affect beading.
2. Is the durabilty of some prducts more intangable or something that can't readily be seen. In other words just because water stops beading doesn't mean the product has stop protecting.

This is not the first time I've seen claims like this so I'm not singling anyone out. But I mean really the sealant claims up to 12 months protection by it self. If the durability of this product is that bad, based on what the bottle says and what some on here claim to actually get, it's not even close. Whose making the call to Klasse to complain.

And the claims of durability for both are by themselves
AIO- 6-8 months
Sealant glaze up to 12 months
 
Use it and see for yourself.
Maybe it will last a year for you. :xyxthumbs:
 
I am certain in optimum environment you could get alot longer protection. In the real world, Florida is where I measure, its likely a bit longer than I suggested. I do believe for best results they should be used together and likely a second coat of SG after 24 hours to give the longest protection.
 
CharlesW said:
Use it and see for yourself.
Maybe it will last a year for you. :xyxthumbs:
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Thanks for the response but I think you missed the point or maybe I just wasn't clear.

I do use both products, though I have not used them long enough to make any claims on durability. This is why my concern was more with what Klasse claims and what others were actually reporting in terms of durability. I understand conditions, environment and such but there seems to be quite a big difference between claimed durability and reported durability. To big to be conditions or environment. claims of half the time or less. Now I don't know about you but if you say your going to detail my car then only do half Im not going to be to happy. Likewise if people are only seeing half or less of the claimed durability then I think there is a problem. Where the problem is..... thats what im trying to figure out

1. is it how we measure durability
2. is there protection that cant be measured visually
3. or, and i think this is a viable issue since there are so many questions about it... application (how is the product being applied)?

There are a lot of questions out there about Klasse and how to use it. There seems to be an equal number of opinions.

the following is from the bottle
people usually get this one right- Klasse AIO is a wipe on wipe off product
the little yellow paper that came with my Klasse in the forum
favorite kit says

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It's also been said Klasse sealant glaze is wipe on wipe off.
Well the bottle says apply, let dry, remove.

The little yellow paper says... start where it says "How To Use"

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Look the bottom line here is I'm just trying to help. The point of the forum is question, education, interchange of thought ,and ultimately to help each other. Klasse is finicky and can be hard to work with but it doesn't have to be this is why I didn't give my opinion on how to use it I just stated the directions. If you follow theses directions Klasse sealant, which is the finicky one, can be as easy to use as the AIO. The water spray trick to get those heavier spots works just like it says too.
 
As far as use of the two products, I have only used the AIO.

I read so many posts about the SG being finicky that I never bothered with it. The number of people that had a problem was reason enough to use a product that wasn't finicky. There's lots of them out there.

One reason I used the AIO was for what I thought would be added protection from the product.
I based that assumption on the company claims,

After reading several posts about AIO lack of durability, (which at the time I didn't agree with at all), I used AIO as a stand alone on the smooth, glossy, black plastic mirrors on a GM mini-van.
Klasse AIO topped with a sealant kept them shiny and glossy at least 6 weeks. That's about as long as I go between waxing/sealing so I have no idea how long they might have gone.
Klasse AIO as a stand alone made the mirrors look great, but after 3 weeks they were no longer shiny and glossy. They were almost flat black and hazy.
I redid the AIO on both and put a sealant on one, leaving just the AIO on the other. In three weeks, the AIO mirror was hazy again. The one with the sealant was still shiny and glossy.
End of experiment and the AIO went back to being a cleaner prep. A very good one.
Don't get me wrong, I think Klasse AIO is a great cleaner and polish product, but with less than expected durability. It's also a little pricy compared to some other products that seem to do a very good job.

FWIW, I have a 16.9 oz. bottle of KAIO I would sell or trade. PM me if interested.
 
if you reread the instructions it says to lay down 2 coats to leave acrylic protection because the first is mostly doing chemical cleaning. you will not get 6 months out of 1 application of kaio. i never wait 6 months between cleaning but i could easily see it lasting 3 months after 2 applications.
 
jaynick808 said:
if you reread the instructions it says to lay down 2 coats to leave acrylic protection because the first is mostly doing chemical cleaning. you will not get 6 months out of 1 application of kaio. i never wait 6 months between cleaning but i could easily see it lasting 3 months after 2 applications.
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Interesting.
None of the Klasse AIO I have purchased came with any instructions other than those on the bottle. Different vendors, too.
Anyway, the instructions on the bottle don't say a thing about a second "coat".
Given that KAIO cleans/removes previous wax/sealant, how is it going to leave more protection with that second coat? Does it have selective cleaning and removes everything but itself. :confused:
I may have to try applying a second coat and see if it does increase the durability. Of course that would require the rain to stop and I'm not sure just when/if that is going to happen. :mad:
 
those directions came in the forum favorite kit, and to be honest that was the first time i actually noticed that part of the directions myself i always went off the bottle as well. oh well this discussion could probably go on forever and i guess in the final analysis we all may experience different results across varying products. In the end my biggest gripe is that a lot of us purchased this product because of its durability claims and reputation and if there're not as good as they say well thats just a little disappointing.

thanks for chiming in guys :props:
 
i fully agree with both of you. i too was disappointed because i hear on autogeek kaio by itself lasts long (6months) and the addition of KSG makes the klasse combo last up to/over a year. i only know to use 2 coats for durability and extra cleaning because i purchased my kaio from pakshak and they issue the same fliers as autogeek. autogeek should update their website and better inform people since KAIO appears to be one of their best sellers. lol its kind of late to find out proper info after u buy the product and read the flier.


i thought the same thing about layering but i guess the acrylic sticks. there is a gloss and slickness difference after the second application.
either way i think kaio should always be topped with a sealant. its too easy not to.
kaio is a great product, but with that said im very open to try other aio's such as werkstat prime strong and poli-seal. i tried zaio but its slightly pricey
 
Results will vary for everyone. If you wash your car every day, it will wear the protection off more quickly. If you drive in less that optimum conditions, it will wear off more quickly. If you park your car in an hermetically sealed, environmentally regulated bubble garage and never use it, it would probably last for many years, as would any protection.

I don't mean to sound sarcastic, but there is no way everyone is going to get the same results. There are wwwaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy too many variables in play here! Perhaps the claims should be made with respect to durability compared to other products. Of course, there are variables affecting those results too.

Bottom line: you get what you put in :buffing: and YMMV. There is no magic bullet, at least not yet :dblthumb2:.

Again, no offense to anyone, but products do not always perform as advertised, but on a relative scale they probably do. The end user is probably the biggest factor. I use AIO and HGSG and they are great. Do they last as long as they say? I don't really know because I don't keep a record. I just put it on when I feel it is necessary. Am I getting what I paid for, most likely yes. Do I really care if I get a little less than advertised? Not at all, so long as I get a reasonable approximation. For all nit-pickers, no, this would not apply to a pace-maker. Find something you are satisfied with and stick with it.
 
There is no question that results vary for different people due to different conditions, but.....
My comparison was on the same vehicle under the same conditions although the mirrors were on opposite sides of the vehicle. :)
Since I didn't and don't plan to use KAIO as a LSP, it's a moot point to me.
For me it will remain a great cleaner/prep product with less than expected durability.

The fact that it works extremely good for a base under either a sealant or a wax is another strong point for it. Like many others, I felt it would last longer adding to the durability of the LSP. I no longer expect that.
 
Klasse AIO is not a sealant and does not provide any real paint protection. It lays down an acrylic coating that lasts 6 months or longer, but that coating is only to enhance and maintain the shine of the paint. If you want real paint protection from the sun, acid rain, harsh weather, blah blah blah, you have to apply 1 or 2 coats of Sealant Glaze after applying and buffing off the Klasse AIO.

The problem with Klasse AIO is that there is no right way to use it. You can use a damp applicator or use an applicator misted with a quick detailer, or you can just use it straight.
 
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