Looking into paste waxes any suggestions

[Alex Haramic]

So I'm looking around at waxes I usually use liquid wax but I want to he a good wax for my classic car. But I notice some only are 3oz or 6 oz jars is that enough to do a whole car specially the 3oz BF wax just seems like it wouldn't be enough I know u do a nice even light spread and the other wax that is I believe 6oz is the ps21 100% carnauba wax but I'm going to look at WG to but I know I can't go wrong with any of them but I would like suggestions

 

[Tvanpool]

So I'm looking around at waxes I usually use liquid wax but I want to he a good wax for my classic car. But I notice some only are 3oz or 6 oz jars is that enough to do a whole car specially the 3oz B9F wax just seems like it wouldn't be enough I know u do a nice even light spread and the other wax that is I believe 6oz is the ps21 100% carnauba wax but I'm going to look at WG to but I know I can't go wrong with any of them but I would like suggestions

If you use it properly the 3oz. will do a car several times. If you put the entire 3oz on in one application you are goo g to have heII getting it off.

 

[AeroCleanse]

Dodo Juice Supernatural, I think they have sample pots.

 

[Alex Haramic]

If you use it properly the 3oz. will do a car several times. If you put the entire 3oz on in one application you are goo g to have heII getting it off.

Yea I'm thinking about getting the ps21 100% carnauba wax can you also give me a good glaze I have WG glaze I had already removed all swirls with the WG swirl remover but I also read the WG Is more of a finishing polish any other glazes you would recommend

 

[Evan.J]

Oh get ready for a ton of suggestions on this!

Yes as stated 3oz will get you several cars. You should be applying a very thin coat almost invisible.

Ok onto what I like because around here we all have our favorites:
1. BlackFire BlackIce (for dark colors)
2. Fuzion
3. Blackfire Midnight sun
4. Pinnacle Souveran
5. DP Max Wax
6. Pinnacle Signature Series II

 

[jjj]

Yea I'm thinking about getting the ps21 100% carnauba wax can you also give me a good glaze I have WG glaze I had already removed all swirls with the WG swirl remover but I also read the WG Is more of a finishing polish any other glazes you would recommend

If you are looking at p21s you should get s100. I have used both and s100 for me is the same.

 

[poweraid]

correct - wg finishing glaze is not a glaze as per what a glaze is . this is a finishing polish to be used after the total swirl remover . this combo is the wg duo .

if u polish u vehicle correctly there is no need for a glaze IMO . there are lots of products with the term "glaze" , usual term glaze = fillers to hide imperfections until u polish again .

 

[ihaveacamaro]

3 oz applied correctly = 15 cars or more!

 

[MarkD51]

So I'm looking around at waxes I usually use liquid wax but I want to he a good wax for my classic car. But I notice some only are 3oz or 6 oz jars is that enough to do a whole car specially the 3oz BF wax just seems like it wouldn't be enough I know u do a nice even light spread and the other wax that is I believe 6oz is the ps21 100% carnauba wax but I'm going to look at WG to but I know I can't go wrong with any of them but I would like suggestions

No Wax is 100% wax. If it was, it would be as hard as a rock, no way could one apply it.

One of the best waxes in the world? One of the best bang for the buck, the longest lasting, and will most likely outlast any boutique wax that professes high carnauba content?

One word....Collinite.

If you were Jay Leno, I doubt you'd be able to use up one can of #476 Super Doublecoat, or #915 Marque D'Elegance on your entire collection. Either of these will last you literal years. You'll find you'll be looking for some excuse to use it on someone else's car, just to use it.

And as for their liquid #845 Insulator Wax, there must be 100's of posts, with glowing compliments, and love of this product right here on AG. #845 will probably outlast 90% of the boutique waxes, and look every bit as good.

And there's not a darn thing wrong with the look of #476, or #915 (or #845 for that matter). They are all concours quality , and high purity products that have little peer.

No, they don't have the fancy marketing catch phrases like "Banana Oil, Montan Oil, Coconut, or fancy names like "Italia, Fuzion, Midnight Sun, or make claims that this one's good for german paint, this ones good for Italian paint, etc etc.

If you want to maintain the beauty, amp the gloss, enhance slickness-hand feel, and dust repellency of these waxes, a simple good spray detailer like DG Aquawax, or Pinnacle Crystal Mist Detailer Spray after a wipe down will do the trick admirably.
Mark

 

[MarkD51]

Tell us Alex what kind of car, what paint? Original, repaint, color, condition, what you've used before?
Mark

 

[Alex Haramic]

If you are looking at p21s you should get s100. I have used both and s100 for me is the same.

Ok yea the s100 got a lot of good reviews and also it's cheaper than the 100% carnauba wax might get that and try it out its going on my 69 Oldsmobile so the only time it's out of the garage is car cruises or a joy ride so this wax will last me a good bit also what do you use as a spray wax with this just wondering I like MEG'S NXT SPRAY

 

[Alex Haramic]

correct - wg finishing glaze is not a glaze as per what a glaze is . this is a finishing polish to be used after the total swirl remover . this combo is the wg duo .

if u polish u vehicle correctly there is no need for a glaze IMO . there are lots of products with the term "glaze" , usual term glaze = fillers to hide imperfections until u polish again .

Okay thanks

 

[MarkD51]

As for waxes, I have encountered a couple of "exceptions to the rule" about waxes, and how waxes, no matter what will, and can cloud a finish, and detract from a paint's beauty.

And both particular examples were single stage black laquer paint.

One, my buddy James' '65 Black Cadillac Calais. He lives in Sarasota Fla and goes by the name of "Cadillac Jimmy", and is president of his car club KARA in Sarasota. He uses nothing but glazes, and has for many years.

Probably for good reason, as his car still sports original GM paint, and he needs something that adds gloss but also has a good ability to "hide" Waxes often don't hide imperfections. He has well over 150 Trophies under his belt with this car.

My other buddy John (Butch) Konz in Howards Grove Wisc owns a 96 point Golden Spinner Award all black 1968 SS396 Chevelle.

What did John typically use? Either Meguiars #7 Show Car Glaze, or Meguiars #9 Swirl Remover.

This is a car that resides covered 24/7 in a garage, while his new cars sit outside, he has an enclosed trailer for this car, and it typically only sees car shows, the car comes off the trailer, gets run for less than a minute, then back on the trailer, as engine heat quickly browns the chevy orange engine paint. This one is truly a "white gloves" Barrett Jackson quality concours auto.
Mark

 

[SON1C]

So I'm looking around at waxes I usually use liquid wax but I want to he a good wax for my classic car. But I notice some only are 3oz or 6 oz jars is that enough to do a whole car specially the 3oz BF wax just seems like it wouldn't be enough I know u do a nice even light spread and the other wax that is I believe 6oz is the ps21 100% carnauba wax but I'm going to look at WG to but I know I can't go wrong with any of them but I would like suggestions

What is your desired look and budget?

 

[Calendyr]

Ah you guys noticed major differences between Carnauba waxes? Unlike synthetic ones, Carnauba waxes all come from the same trees, I have a hard time imagining major differences between them.

 

[MarkD51]

Ah you guys noticed major differences between Carnauba waxes? Unlike synthetic ones, Carnauba waxes all come from the same trees, I have a hard time imagining major differences between them.

One of the best pastes I've ever used in my life was the real, and original Blue Coral in the Glass Jar. Some of you may remember it?

Now this stuff was a bear to work with, not easy going on, and even harder coming off. Apply to a 15x15 section, and you better have towel in the other hand, and wiping as fast as you can to break it down (100% pure cotton baby diaper was my choice back then)

Did my 1967 White Stingray with it the first week I took ownership of it in 1977.

Collinite is one of the few products that remind me of how Blue Coral used to be, the quality, and characteristics of shine, warmth, and tough shell hardness, but without all the hard work. When I discovered Collinite over 20 years ago, there was a deja vu moment.

Now although I haven't tried Fuzion, Souveran, or Midnight Sun, I'm sure these too are all 1st class superb products. If you have the money on hand, I don't think you'll find them a waste of money, or a disappointment.
Mark

 

[swanicyouth]

Ah you guys noticed major differences between Carnauba waxes? Unlike synthetic ones, Carnauba waxes all come from the same trees, I have a hard time imagining major differences between them.

Nothing could be farther from the truth. That's like saying all sodas (or beer) have no major differences because they're all made from the same water. Carnauba is just one ingredient, and its only roughly 1/5 (~20%) of the contents by weight.

 

[goldendodo19]

I don't understand how ppl can say waxes don't alter looks. You're applying another film of something on top of your paint. The look is obviously going to be altered slightly, depending on what is in each wax. Obviously polishing lays the foundation and creates the flawless finish but a nice wax really is just icing on the cake in my opinion.

 

[WAXOFF]

MARKD51 IS 100% correct. Collinite.

 

[swanicyouth]

I don't understand how ppl can say waxes don't alter looks. You're applying another film of something on top of your paint. The look is obviously going to be altered slightly, depending on what is in each wax. Obviously polishing lays the foundation and creates the flawless finish but a nice wax really is just icing on the cake in my opinion.

As soon as you start talking about waxes and how they "look different", some people make the leap to waxes "fix defects". If you say you used wax Y and you thought it looked better than wax Z, they want to assume you mean "wax Y is all you need to put on any paint to make it look perfect".

In other words, if you comment on the subtle difference between waxes, they assume (incorrectly) that you mean you can just negate all the prep work and use wax Y. Or, because if you buff out a car and it looks great, no wax could possibly improve or alter the look of their hard work.

I think most of us agree its all the prep work and polishing that makes the paint look great. But for some people it has to end there, because they can't wrap their head around anything altering the look of the paint beyond correcting the paint.

You can easily see correction, but differences in waxes are subtle, but they do exist. Obviously your looking at paint through a film of some measurable thickness. That film is not 100% clear (just look in your wax tin - can you see the bottom?).