Maguires Ultimate Wax

Our Ultimate Wax (liquid or paste) would be considered a sealant because it is 100% synthetic man made polymers. Sealant is nothing more than a synonym for "synthetic wax" and does the same thing that carnauba wax does, just in a slightly different way.

As a general rule of thumb, synthetics will last longer than carnaubas will, but obviously just as some carnaubas last longer than others, so too do some sealants last longer than others. But generally speaking, synthetics last longer than carnaubas. There is no real "need" to use both but some people do it just for the looks of the carnauba (if they can actually see a difference, that is) but the protection of the synthetic. Because of that, and because some synthetics state the won't bond if applied on top of any sort of waxes or polish oils, the generally accepted process is to apply the sealant first, wait 12 to 24 hours, then top with a carnaua. But again, you don't really have to do this, using one or the alone is perfectly fine.

As for Ultimate Quik Wax spray and D156, yep, basically the same stuff. If you use a lot, and it is great for applying while drying the car, then D156 is the cost effective way to go. And for a spray wax it's crazy durable. And it won't stain plastic trim (will usually actually make it look better, truth be told).
 
Michael Stoops said:
Our Ultimate Wax (liquid or paste) would be considered a sealant because it is 100% synthetic man made polymers. Sealant is nothing more than a synonym for "synthetic wax" and does the same thing that carnauba wax does, just in a slightly different way.

As a general rule of thumb, synthetics will last longer than carnaubas will, but obviously just as some carnaubas last longer than others, so too do some sealants last longer than others. But generally speaking, synthetics last longer than carnaubas. There is no real "need" to use both but some people do it just for the looks of the carnauba (if they can actually see a difference, that is) but the protection of the synthetic. Because of that, and because some synthetics state the won't bond if applied on top of any sort of waxes or polish oils, the generally accepted process is to apply the sealant first, wait 12 to 24 hours, then top with a carnaua. But again, you don't really have to do this, using one or the alone is perfectly fine.

As for Ultimate Quik Wax spray and D156, yep, basically the same stuff. If you use a lot, and it is great for applying while drying the car, then D156 is the cost effective way to go. And for a spray wax it's crazy durable. And it won't stain plastic trim (will usually actually make it look better, truth be told).
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I've been using griots spray wax for drying my car with nice results. I'm assuming its the same thing as the megs UQW?
 
Michael Stoops said:
Our Ultimate Wax (liquid or paste) would be considered a sealant because it is 100% synthetic man made polymers. Sealant is nothing more than a synonym for "synthetic wax" and does the same thing that carnauba wax does, just in a slightly different way.

As a general rule of thumb, synthetics will last longer than carnaubas will, but obviously just as some carnaubas last longer than others, so too do some sealants last longer than others. But generally speaking, synthetics last longer than carnaubas. There is no real "need" to use both but some people do it just for the looks of the carnauba (if they can actually see a difference, that is) but the protection of the synthetic. Because of that, and because some synthetics state the won't bond if applied on top of any sort of waxes or polish oils, the generally accepted process is to apply the sealant first, wait 12 to 24 hours, then top with a carnaua. But again, you don't really have to do this, using one or the alone is perfectly fine.

As for Ultimate Quik Wax spray and D156, yep, basically the same stuff. If you use a lot, and it is great for applying while drying the car, then D156 is the cost effective way to go. And for a spray wax it's crazy durable. And it won't stain plastic trim (will usually actually make it look better, truth be told).
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Thanks for some clarification here Mr. Stoops. Would you mind to clarify something else as well?

Ultimate Paste Wax is advertised as being sun friendly. I have heard the same about Ultimate Liquid wax. In fact, I have looked at both products in numerous stores and the packages indeed do say that each can be applied in the sun.

However, there seems to be some comments flying around on this forum and other saying the paste won't stain trim. I only see it written on the Ultimate Liquid Wax box saying it won't stain trim, which is not written on the Ultimate Paste Wax boxes that I see...yet I keep hearing some people say that Ultimate Paste wax won't stain trim. I've seen this mentioned several times on this forum, by reputable people, but according to what I read on the packages, this isn't true. Would you mind elaborating a bit on this. I tend to believe what is written on the packaging label (meaning ULW won't stain trim, and nothing is written on the UPW about trim).

Then again, I've also heard Meg's Gold Class won't stain trim, but again I see nothing of this written on the packaging. However, it seems like I recall seeing a recent video of Mr. Meguiar stating that Gold Class won't stain trim (My memory isn't real clear right now on remembering the details of that video, so I could be mistaken). Perhaps Mr. Meguiar only said Gold Class was sun friendly, which has nothing to do with being trim friendly.
 
I've never used maguires but meguiar's makes a similar product called ultimate wax. It's nice because it goes on thin and durability is good, but personally I prefer other waxes or sealants to this.
 
hoytman from numerous threads.. I think only the liquid form does not stain trim. I have read that the paste does. My only experience is on the liquid form and i can say it doesnt stain it.
 
I am of the same understanding... UW in liquid will not stain but the paste will. Gold Class will also stain. UQW/D156 will not stain.
 
In my experience, UWLiquid will not stain trim, plastic etc.

Truth be told, that IS what I use on 'trim stuff'.

Bill
 
Chinky559 said:
hoytman from numerous threads.. I think only the liquid form does not stain trim. I have read that the paste does. My only experience is on the liquid form and i can say it doesnt stain it.
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c8n said:
I am of the same understanding... UW in liquid will not stain but the paste will. Gold Class will also stain. UQW/D156 will not stain.
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This is my understanding as well. However, I've seen several posts here and elsewhere stating that UPW will not stain trim. I can only recall one of those posts, and I may even be mistaken who it was, but I think it was VP Mark. Again, I may be mistaken on Mark stating this, but I've still seen it mentioned several times, that UPW won't stain trim, which I believe to be incorrect.

(I'm going to be out for a good while today and won't be back on the forum until later. I'll do some searching then and see what I can come up with. My apology to Mark in Advance if I am mistaken. I'm just looking for clarification to other posts I've read in hopes to 'put this to bed'.)
 
Hoytman said:
This is my understanding as well. However, I've seen several posts here and elsewhere stating that UPW will not stain trim. I can only recall one of those posts, and I may even be mistaken who it was, but I think it was VP Mark. Again, I may be mistaken on Mark stating this, but I've still seen it mentioned several times, that UPW won't stain trim, which I believe to be incorrect.

(I'm going to be out for a good while today and won't be back on the forum until later. I'll do some searching then and see what I can come up with. My apology to Mark in Advance if I am mistaken. I'm just looking for clarification to other posts I've read in hopes to 'put this to bed'.)
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Hi Bill...

Hope the following helps in some small way.
(Note: My highlighting/bolding)
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From a Michael Stoops posting on MOL (Dated: 11-01-2010):

Re: Ultimate Wax

"The application experience is very different, almost like applying warm, partially melted butter.
It goes on amazingly thin (hence the Thin Film technology in the description) and wipe off is super easy.
The liquid version won't stain trim at all - the paste may due to ingredients in it that make it a paste format
-and it can even be applied on a warm surface in direct sunlight.
While we've tested this on surfaces as hot as 158F we still recommend applying on a cool surface,
but if you're stuck and can't get into the shade, you can still use Ultimate Waxes"
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:)

Bob
 
Hjfowler said:
I've been using griots spray wax for drying my car with nice results. I'm assuming its the same thing as the megs UQW?
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They are the same only in so much as both are spray waxes that can be used while drying the car. I'm not sure if the Griot's spray wax is a full synthetic or not, or if it contains similar hydrophobic polymers like our UQW does. While both are designed for the same type of application it's up to you which one you prefer for ease of application and removal, appearance, durability, etc.

Hoytman said:
Thanks for some clarification here Mr. Stoops. Would you mind to clarify something else as well?

Ultimate Paste Wax is advertised as being sun friendly. I have heard the same about Ultimate Liquid wax. In fact, I have looked at both products in numerous stores and the packages indeed do say that each can be applied in the sun.

However, there seems to be some comments flying around on this forum and other saying the paste won't stain trim. I only see it written on the Ultimate Liquid Wax box saying it won't stain trim, which is not written on the Ultimate Paste Wax boxes that I see...yet I keep hearing some people say that Ultimate Paste wax won't stain trim. I've seen this mentioned several times on this forum, by reputable people, but according to what I read on the packages, this isn't true. Would you mind elaborating a bit on this. I tend to believe what is written on the packaging label (meaning ULW won't stain trim, and nothing is written on the UPW about trim).

Then again, I've also heard Meg's Gold Class won't stain trim, but again I see nothing of this written on the packaging. However, it seems like I recall seeing a recent video of Mr. Meguiar stating that Gold Class won't stain trim (My memory isn't real clear right now on remembering the details of that video, so I could be mistaken). Perhaps Mr. Meguiar only said Gold Class was sun friendly, which has nothing to do with being trim friendly.
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It appears others have beaten me to a response here but I'll elaborate anyway. We state that Ultimate Wax liquid will not stain trim but the paste version likely will. Now, if you apply it and get some on the trim but wipe it off right away (like immediately wipe off while accidentally getting it on the trim) you probably won't see any staining. But accidentally get it on the trim and then let it dry and you'll get some staining.

As for being fun friendly, Ultimate Wax in either form is very sun friendly. Even so, we still recommend applying in the shade for best results, but if you don't have a choice Ultimate will be very forgiving. That said, this does not mean you can apply it to a blistering hot surface. A black car sitting all day in the California sun can reach 180F and is downright painful to touch with your bare hand. Common sense should tell us that applying wax to that surface is not a good idea. At all. Quite warm to the touch, if you have no other option, is possible, but "sun friendly" is not an open invitation to go crazy! Keep that in mind (and I'm sure you are, but not everyone in the world quite gets this concept!) and you'll be just fine.

Gold Class, on the other hand, while maybe a bit more sun friendly than, say, good ol' M16, is still not on par with Ultimate when it comes to this. For best results and ease of use with Gold Class, stick with a cool surface in the shade.
 
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