ronkh57
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Mckee's N-914?
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I have been using N-914 for a little over two months. Never used d114 but I can say that i really like N-914. I have been using it as a rinseless wash and as a waterless wash. It has been my go to product throughout pollen season here in New England. My process typically involves a quick hose rinseoff then I use it as a rinseless while hitting the difficult spots with the waterless wash ratio. i follow up with a quick spray sealant like wolfgang or use hydro blue and couldn't be happier. Love the fact that the only protection i am putting down is the sealant or hydro blue
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yup thats it. Ive also had similar experience
RippyD
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Nick, just to clarify, I believe the OP is applying N-914 when the gloss enhancer product is still wet. I don't see how it can't interfere when used this way. It has to be at least as bad as plain water in terms of dilution. I would not expect Ech2O to work as well if I diluted it while drying. I think you're saying that N-914 at Rinseless or Waterless dilution won't remove a gloss enhancer that has been applied (and dried). Not trying to argue at all - just trying to ensure we're clear on what you're saying.
I use N-914 between Ech2O washes all the time and get that it doesn't remove the gloss that Ech2O leaves. Happy to try it over Ech2O while it's still wet and report the results. I suspect it would look a lot more like I washed with N-914 and a lot less like Ech2O.
Happy to be told I'm wrong if that's the case. And I could not be a bigger fan of N-914. Already purchased my 2nd gallon of it.
n-914 followed by ech2o is a favorite combo of mine as well
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OK Great thanks, I just saw this, That makes me feel better about the gallon of wet diamond soap I just bought. I like to put a 1/2 ounce to an ounce of n914 in my foam cannon bottle with the soap. I find it works great to aid the soap.
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Thats definitely what put the thought in my head BUT I didn't realize that you had the coating on there to start with. That probably made a difference IDK?
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To be fair it only removes the polishing oils at a much higher concentration
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I will answer the question with another question.
How can the soap portion of any given soap not clean off the "gloss enhancing" portion of said soap and still clean?
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When you mix up a bottle of waterless wash at 1/128 or a 1/4oz per quart you realize what a small amount you are adding to the water. What I first started using it I thought there was no way such a small amount could do anything but now that ive been using it for a while I see it certainly does. You have a great product here. Especially if you just want the car really clean before adding a coat of wax or whatever.
I'll add about an ounce of n914 to about 3oz of pinnacle bodywork shampoo and mix it up in the bottle of my foam gun. Wash the car with that then use n914 at WW as a drying aid and the car is ready to be waxed..
Im on my 2nd bottle and ill prob get a gallon next time. The only reason I didnt buy the gallon this time is because its so concentrated I didn't want to have it sitting around for the time it would take me to use it.
Klasse Act
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I don't have any photographic proof here so you'll have to take my word for it and besides, for what I'm about to say pics wouldn't work, you would need to see the car everyday, it's that specific.
After I coated my car I ended trying out various RW's on the car, i.e. TW and the new Griot's Garage RW. This was a couple weeks in though but what I began to notice was the finish wasn't as "sharp" or "HD-looking" (technical term, LOL) and couldn't figure it out. I began to think that the wax in the wash and wax was changing the look of my coated car, I had a plan to try and fix this.
During the next couple washes I used N914 exclusively to clean the car. I used a ratio of 2 ounces for my 1.25 gallon battery powered sprayed and distilled water, of coarse. After my 2nd wash in 2 weeks I had brought the sharpness of "HD-ness" back to my cars finish. The metallic was back to looking like each one was standing up and saying PRESENT!
In conclusion, the slightly stronger N914 ratio for my WW needs washed away the wax "film" left behind by the RW's with wax in them. Like I said earlier though, you would've had to see the car after coating, in person and then observe it after a couple RW's with wax to see the difference and then what it looked like after a couple N914 washes, this stuff is amazing, period. I would like to add that I've done a couple Ech2o RW's without any ill effects, miracles in those bottles I tell yah
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After I coated my car I ended trying out various RW's on the car, i.e. TW and the new Griot's Garage RW. This was a couple weeks in though but what I began to notice was the finish wasn't as "sharp" or "HD-looking" (technical term, LOL) and couldn't figure it out. I began to think that the wax in the wash and wax was changing the look of my coated car, I had a plan to try and fix this.
During the next couple washes I used N914 exclusively to clean the car. I used a ratio of 2 ounces for my 1.25 gallon battery powered sprayed and distilled water, of coarse. After my 2nd wash in 2 weeks I had brought the sharpness of "HD-ness" back to my cars finish. The metallic was back to looking like each one was standing up and saying PRESENT!
In conclusion, the slightly stronger N914 ratio for my WW needs washed away the wax "film" left behind by the RW's with wax in them. Like I said earlier though, you would've had to see the car after coating, in person and then observe it after a couple RW's with wax to see the difference and then what it looked like after a couple N914 washes, this stuff is amazing, period. I would like to add that I've done a couple Ech2o RW's without any ill effects, miracles in those bottles I tell yah
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Eldorado2k
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If it wasn't the gloss enhancers that D114 removed, I guess the only thing left to point the finger at would be that the soap simply doesn't rinse off very well. And if that's the case, then that could be said for alot of car soaps out there including ones that claim to rinse clean such as 3D Pink.
Klasse Act
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Well I really learned a lesson with a coated vehicle and its this, don't wash using something that has wax in it because it changes the look of a coated car. In my cars case especially because it's metallic black, probably could get away with it on light colors like white or silver though.
I should add that I found an additive that wakes up the finish of a coated car. I know AG sells Pinnacle Black Label coating booster as well as a QD made for coated cars and I'm sure they work well too, something to keep in mind when maintaining a coated finish.
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I should add that I found an additive that wakes up the finish of a coated car. I know AG sells Pinnacle Black Label coating booster as well as a QD made for coated cars and I'm sure they work well too, something to keep in mind when maintaining a coated finish.
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392hemi
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What he said.
Nickfire20
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Hey yall, Im new to N914, i mixed up a 16oz bottle tonight for WW purposes. I put 1oz of 914 in, because I didnt read the directions...will this strip my LSP, or cause any issues? Should I dump and start over?
WRAPT C5Z06
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Do not use that ratio as a WW. It's too strong and too soapy. 1:128 is great.
RippyD
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The paint prep (aka stripping) dilution for N-914 for 8:1. With one oz to 15 of water you're at 15:1, obviously. I'm with Nickfire20 - I wouldn't do a WW with it. Depending on your LSP it may remove or diminish it.
Rather than dumping it out I would transfer it to another container and so you can dilute it for WW. Use 2 oz of your 15:1 mixture in a 16 oz bottle to get to 120:1.
Nickfire20
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Ok sounds good, thanks folks. The soapy suds that sprayed out is actually what made me start looking and researching what I did wrong, then I saw the dilutions. I think the rinse free wash and wax dilution is what I was initially going for(since I made that up the other day) and I didnt think twice. Live and learn, thanks again!
Joe@NextLevelDetail
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N914 is not capable of stripping any wax or sealant.
At the 1:8 ratio it is designed to remove all polishing oils/residue/fillers off the paint. (From polishing)
The 1:8 ratio is not ideal for waterless wash, however even if used it will not strip your lsp.
N914 Tip : 1:8 mixture makes a killer wheel/tire cleaner!
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