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i was looking i for just a wheel cleaner- i have megs apc plus -d103- does it have corrosive chemicals in it ? possibly rusting up the rotors and other vissible parts
or it safe-thanksFeed back please
 
Um...rinsewater, rainwater, any kind of water rusts my rotors...so I don't think you're going to have much luck finding any kind of cleaner that's not going rust your rotors if you have to rinse it off with water...
 
john b said:
i was looking i for just a wheel cleaner- i have megs apc plus -d103- does it have corrosive chemicals in it ? possibly rusting up the rotors and other vissible parts
or it safe-thanksFeed back please
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anything with water in it...including wash water, will cause the iron rotors to oxidize...and quickly. that is nothing to worry about though because it's a very thin layer and will wear off the first time you use the brakes.

for the others, isn't apc+ similar to powerclean?
 
builthatch said:
for the others, isn't apc+ similar to powerclean?
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Powerclean is definitely better, IME. You can use it straight on wheels safely. APC+ is not advised to be used stronger than 4:1. Also, you can safely use powerclean straight on paint, while APC+ isn't recommended for paint. To the OP, you can safely use APC+ on coated wheels at 4:1.
 
who makes powerclean? I was wondering about this Meguiars APC+, I wanted to purchase it as a wheel cleaner and all around paint cleaner for the tougher grime but it would definitely need to get diluted?
 
mrvelvet said:
who makes powerclean? I was wondering about this Meguiars APC+, I wanted to purchase it as a wheel cleaner and all around paint cleaner for the tougher grime but it would definitely need to get diluted?
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I used Meg's APC+ @ 4:1 for a long time, then I switched to Zep Citrus @ 4:1. My next order I plan to try Optimum Power Clean. With Power Clean I can replace Total Auto Wash and APC+ since it is an APC and safe for paint! :dblthumb2:
 
mrvelvet said:
who makes powerclean? I was wondering about this Meguiars APC+, I wanted to purchase it as a wheel cleaner and all around paint cleaner for the tougher grime but it would definitely need to get diluted?
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Optimum makes Power Clean.

rwright said:
I used Meg's APC+ @ 4:1 for a long time, then I switched to Zep Citrus @ 4:1. My next order I plan to try Optimum Power Clean. With Power Clean I can replace Total Auto Wash and APC+ since it is an APC and safe for paint! :dblthumb2:
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I have APC+ and OPC, and I feel safer with OPC for some reason. OPC also does a good job as a tire and rubber cleaner.
 
I've never had issue using APC on wheels. In fact I usually use Meg's Super Degreaser on all wheels. Wheel Brightener if it's a nasty wheel (other than a polished aluminum).
 
Dubbin1 said:
Wow that stuff isn't cheap.
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i agree.

however, a few points:

you'll find you use it most at 10:1-3:1. i end up diluting it more that 10:1 for most interiors. it's so safe for everything inside and out that this dilution range is a real sweet span and the reason i think it is worth it. if you are doing a lot of road toilets and need something at 1:1 all the time, there are definitely more cost effective choices for that sort of work. but for the other uses, at dilution, i think it deserves a place on most detailer's shelves.

OR...if you are the type who details relatively clean cars, like i do. at this point, i'm doing only exotics and my own stuff, so very very rarely am i using it 1:1 and i have no need for anything else. but...i am going to see what's doin' with that Totally Awesome stuff.
 
Dubbin1 said:
Wow that stuff isn't cheap.
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Yea, but it's extremely verstaile and great cleaning power. I used APC+ initially, switched to OPC, and never looked back. I spoke to Dr. G and he told me you can use it *un-diluted* safely on paint, interior, engine, plastic, tires, wheels, wheel wells, leather. Obviously, you don't need to use it un-diluted on everything, but that's a pretty awesome option. I also asked Dr. G if I could use OPC @ 3:1 to check my work, if there would be any filling, and he said absolutely no filling, and it would be great for that use. Bye, bye IPA wipe downs. Can you tell I like this stuff?
 
07 z-oh-6 said:
Yea, but it's extremely verstaile and great cleaning power. I used APC+ initially, switched to OPC, and never looked back. I spoke to Dr. G and he told me you can use it *un-diluted* safely on paint, interior, engine, plastic, tires, wheels, wheel wells, leather. Obviously, you don't need to use it un-diluted on everything, but that's a pretty awesome option. I also asked Dr. G if I could use OPC @ 3:1 to check my work, if there would be any filling, and he said absolutely no filling, and it would be great for that use. Bye, bye IPA wipe downs. Can you tell I like this stuff?
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Let us know how OPC works as a wipe down agent. Doesn't the OPC label say to avoid letting it dry on paint surfaces?
 
Kurt_s said:
Let us know how OPC works as a wipe down agent. Doesn't the OPC label say to avoid letting it dry on paint surfaces?
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Will do.

Yes, it does say that, but I specifically asked Dr G. if I had to rinse it off, or would it be ok wiping it off. He told me wiping it off would work just fine.
 
07 z-oh-6 said:
Will do.

Yes, it does say that, but I specifically asked Dr G. if I had to rinse it off, or would it be ok wiping it off. He told me wiping it off would work just fine.
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Interesting. I honestly think that we're overthinking the whole wipe down issue but it's great to find alternatives that work.

I am amazed what OPC removes where other products didn't seem to cut it. If wipe down is fine, maybe I don't have to worry so much about not rinsing down the door jambs enough and a wet towel will do it?

I also keep looking at an inexpensive steamer like the Wagnor or McCullough for the door jambs, tires and wheels. Do you use steam?
 
Kurt_s said:
Interesting. I honestly think that we're overthinking the whole wipe down issue but it's great to find alternatives that work.

I am amazed what OPC removes where other products didn't seem to cut it. If wipe down is fine, maybe I don't have to worry so much about not rinsing down the door jambs enough and a wet towel will do it?

I also keep looking at an inexpensive steamer like the Wagnor or McCullough for the door jambs, tires and wheels. Do you use steam?
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As far as an IPA wipedown, Dr G. told me that IPA is fine to use, but you don't want to have more than 30% alcohol in the diluted mixture. He said IPA will soften paint, therefore, resulting in easier scratching when wiped over. :dunno:

I don't steam. Steaming does look very intriguing, though.
 
07 z-oh-6 said:
As far as an IPA wipedown, Dr G. told me that IPA is fine to use, but you don't want to have more than 30% alcohol in the diluted mixture. He said IPA will soften paint, therefore, resulting in easier scratching when wiped over. :dunno:

I don't steam. Steaming does look very intriguing, though.
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No more than 30% IPA? Hmmm. Kind of surprising based on the experiences of the detailers on this forum but Mike mentioned that IPA might haze some finishes and prefers 100% mineral spirits.
 
Kurt_s said:
Interesting. I honestly think that we're overthinking the whole wipe down issue but it's great to find alternatives that work.

I am amazed what OPC removes where other products didn't seem to cut it. If wipe down is fine, maybe I don't have to worry so much about not rinsing down the door jambs enough and a wet towel will do it?

I also keep looking at an inexpensive steamer like the Wagnor or McCullough for the door jambs, tires and wheels. Do you use steam?
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I too was looking into steaming. Anyone have any experience with it and what machine to use?
 
07 z-oh-6 said:
As far as an IPA wipedown, Dr G. told me that IPA is fine to use, but you don't want to have more than 30% alcohol in the diluted mixture. He said IPA will soften paint, therefore, resulting in easier scratching when wiped over. :dunno:

I don't steam. Steaming does look very intriguing, though.
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I started a thread about steam cleaners. Hope to get some advice.
 
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