Megs MF DA System Problem

Bottom line....
These microfiber discs should be lasting for many cars. How many is many? That depends on a long list of variables. Too many to mention in this post. We have data that shows 200 car disc life at a car auction. And feedback from pre-market testers that describe 50 car disc life, even with aggressive application methods. But if you are getting disc failure in less than 2 cars, something is wrong. That is not the intended disc durability.

Something is wrong: well that could mean two things;
  1. Something is wrong with the disc.
  2. Something is wrong with the application (or any variable that impacts disc durability.)
1. Meguiar's is investigating a potential quality issue with certain sku's in the microfiber disc line up. You can help Meguiar's understand the scope and specifics of the problem if you report any pre-mature disc failures to your distributor or Meguiar's Customer Care 800 number. As always, Meguiar's will take care of you and replace your product. Your distributor should do the same. Meguiar's is working with a high sense of urgency to isolate and solve any quality issues that may be going on with the microfiber disc. We designed a disc with durability in mind. You should be getting many cars out of it. If that is not happening, we will fix that.

2. Using the disc with durability in mind...

These are the ways you can definately shorten disc life:
  • Use any other backing plate besides S6BP, W67DA, or S3BP.
  • Let the disc spin on the tool in mid-air, in other words not on the surface.
  • Let the discs heat up. (Read below for ways to prevent this.)
  • Use too much product (Read below)
  • Use the wrong product. The disc was made for certain chemistry, certain products.
  • Use too much pressure and speed. (Using the system as directed, you do not need excessive pressure and speed.)
These are the ways you can extend disc life:
  • Clean the disc frequently. This thread is full of great suggestions for cleaning. Compressed air is best (with the tool off.)
  • Swap discs if you are doing heavy defect removal and the discs are heating up. Going back and forth on discs 1 to 3 times on a car will significantly help to keep discs cool.
  • For heavy defect removal, speeds of 4800 to 5800 opm's. Moderate pressure. If the disc stops spinning, thats too much pressure.
  • For polishing and waxing, speeds of 3800 to 4800 opm's. Light to moderate pressure.
  • Use D300 and D301. Using other products, even M105, can possibly shorten disc life.
  • Use a small amount of product. If you are getting foam saturation of the liquid, you are using WAY TOO MUCH PRODUCT. Once the disc is primed, and it does take a fair amount to prime the disc, the disc requires just a small amount to do the job. 2-4 small pea size drops.
Meguiar's sincerely apologizes for any quality problem you may experience with this, or any of our products. Please report them to your distributor or Meguiar's. We will take care of you.

The DA Microfiber Correction System is not that difficult to use, but may have a bit of a learning curve for some detailers. The results a pretty remarkable, all things considered.

I hope the above information on disc maintenance helps...
Jason
 
Not sure if this fits here but there has been a lot of talk about orbit speeds. Being as I could not find the speed settings for my GG6 I sent a question to Griots for the speeds on the GG6. Here is their reply!

"Hello Yale,

Thank you for contacting Griot's Garage with your product question. Speed settings for our 6" Random Orbital are as follows: 1: 2,500 OPM, 2: 3,360 OPM, 3: 4,220 OPM, 4: 5,080 OPM, 5: 5,940 6: 6,800.These speed settings are approximate and will vary depending on the amount of pressure that is applied to the machine.

Patrick Bradley
Customer Service Representative
Griot's Garage
(800) 345-5789 Ext. 153
[email protected]
www.griotsgarage.com"

Just thought others might like this information! From the above numbers it looks to me like the max setting on a GG6 would be 3.5 - 4 for polishing:buffing:

Yale
 
I purchased the starter kit to test the system out a couple months back. I've been using the pads on an old G100. I polish at speed 5 (4780 opm) and clean with air (40psi) at speed 1 (2300 opm) after every panel or section.

I prime the pads well and apply 3 peas sized dots of polish. I've detailed about 20 vehicles so far with no pad issues. I've been hand washing the pads and letting them air-dry.

I love these pads and how much time they save me. They cut quickly and finish beautifully. I'm about to order another batch of these pads as they are now my go to solution.
 
Thank you very much Jason for stopping by and for the excellent and helpful information! :dblthumb2:
 
I had one of my Finishing disc fail tonight..it didnt fly off but about a 2.5" section of the backing came unglued. This is only the 3rd time I have used this pad. I contacted megs so see what they say. I also bought from the first batch AG got in..so maybe I had one of the first ones that had that bad batch of glue people were talking about.
 
Wow didn't expect that finishing discs were getting damaged as well. I need to start using my discs to see ifine is from the bad batch.
 
05xrunner said:
I had one of my Finishing disc fail tonight..it didnt fly off but about a 2.5" section of the backing came unglued. This is only the 3rd time I have used this pad. I contacted megs so see what they say. I also bought from the first batch AG got in..so maybe I had one of the first ones that had that bad batch of glue people were talking about.
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That's really odd! Those pads should be running at speed 3 with light to moderate pressure for very quick passes. I don't use them much but I'm very surprised by this.
 
yea i ran them at speed 3 and I really dont put much more pressure on it then the weight of the machine.
 
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