Meguiars DA Microfiber Correction System

slickooz said:
If cleaning them in-between sections? Is two cutting pads enough to do the whole car?
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I've done a Vette with 2 MF Cutting pads only. You just have to make sure to clean it often with either compressed air or the pad conditioning brush. I think you can even get away with 1 MF cutting pad for the whole car.
 
I think I am going to go with this system instead of the 105/205 combo with foam pads. Too many people saying its easy with great results. Plus I wanted a 5" backing plate and the kit hooks you up with it too.
 
Trumbo_S10 said:
I think I am going to go with this system instead of the 105/205 combo with foam pads. Too many people saying its easy with great results. Plus I wanted a 5" backing plate and the kit hooks you up with it too.
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You can't completely eliminate the use of foam pads. This system isn't used for high end detailing. This is something that can be used very easily with great results. If you want the best possible finish and shine, you have to incorporate the use of a good finishing polish (such as M205, PO85RD, etc) with a foam finishing pad.

NoleFan said:
Wait, your Walmart is carrying these now? No fair!
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Only certain Walmarts do. They're carrying the MF system (D300, D301, 5" MF Cutting and Finishing discs), M105, M205, M07, M02, M26, G110v2, W7207, W8207, W9207, and W67DA. I may have missed some items but you get the idea.
 
Trumbo_S10 said:
I think I am going to go with this system instead of the 105/205 combo with foam pads. Too many people saying its easy with great results. Plus I wanted a 5" backing plate and the kit hooks you up with it too.
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I don't know if I posted this before or if I was just thinking of posting it...I think it's perfect for a beginner (not saying this is you), because there's no confusion with pad type/color, and which chemical. Pink chemical on the maroon-backed pad, gray chemical on the black-backed pad, done!
 
Would these reuslts be superior even to say Megs UC/UP combo with orange/white lc flat pads? Shot in the dark if anyone has used similar products.
 
Trumbo_S10 said:
Have you used the system with your gg6? What speed?
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No I have not. I've only used it with my G110v2.

You have to target 4800 OPMs with the D300 step and 3800 OPMs with the D301. That translates to speed 3.5 - 4.0 on the D300 and speed 2.5 - 3.0 on the D301.

Trumbo_S10 said:
Would these reuslts be superior even to say Megs UC/UP combo with orange/white lc flat pads? Shot in the dark if anyone has used similar products.
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IMO, I wouldn't call it superior. Each paint system is different so each will require a different approach. The D300/MF cutting is definitely more aggressive than the UC with LC orange. So The MF cutting will cut more but it could produce hazing on softer paints. The UP with LC white will finish a lot nicer than the D301/MF finishing though. So it's all about perspective and the car you're working on.
 
Wow, impressive. I was using 5-6 with correcting compound with other products. I like that this may even be more efficient and not heat up the pads as quickly if at lower OPMs?
 
Trumbo_S10 said:
Would these reuslts be superior even to say Megs UC/UP combo with orange/white lc flat pads? Shot in the dark if anyone has used similar products.
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I dunno...you can already see there is some argument. I would hardly say this is the be-all, end-all system. I think for a new member who wants to get into machine polishing, and just wants a shiny car, you can't beat this system. And of course, that's what it was designed for, for volume detailing shops that want to get good (not Autogeekian) results, with minimal risk of damage, short learning curve, minimally trained employees.

And it delivers--as from the original post--I can see someone at Wal-Mart, who is one of those "it's spring, it's time to wash my car and do my once-a-year!" really getting excellent results with this...only thing is none of them will pop the $200+ without understanding it.
 
I am just on the fence. This is for personal use to be used on a ungaraged DD. Is it worth the extra timer and focus to use a 105/205 combo, or should I accept the good(not great) results that we see daily here in AGO land.
 
Marc08EX said:
The D300/MF cutting is definitely more aggressive than the UC with LC orange.
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That's scary. I really worry about how much paint people (me included) take off these days. When I started on these forums in 2004 the most aggressive you could do on a PC was #83...or if you had stones you could use SSR3 or PG and try to get the hazing out.

Now people are using 105, UC, and D300 every day and taking out defects you couldn't touch in 2004 without a rotary.
 
Trumbo_S10 said:
I am just on the fence. This is for personal use to be used on a ungaraged DD. Is it worth the extra timer and focus to use a 105/205 combo, or should I accept the good(not great) results that we see daily here in AGO land.
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You already have your machine? Pads?
 
Trumbo_S10 said:
I am just on the fence. This is for personal use to be used on a ungaraged DD. Is it worth the extra timer and focus to use a 105/205 combo, or should I accept the good(not great) results that we see daily here in AGO land.
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My go to combo is D300/MF cutting -> M205/W9207 foam finishing -> wax.

If I feel like shining up my car or some else is willing to pay extra, then I'd add a PO85RD/foam finishing step after M205.

Setec Astronomy said:
That's scary. I really worry about how much paint people (me included) take off these days. When I started on these forums in 2004 the most aggressive you could do on a PC was #83...or if you had hard stones you could use SSR3 or PG and try to get the hazing out.

Now people are using 105, UC, and D300 every day and taking out defects you couldn't touch in 2004 without a rotary.
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The good old M83 on the first generation PC days. That's when I started too. :)
 
Setec Astronomy said:
You already have your machine? Pads?
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I have been using my GG6 for a year. Using Yellow/White/Grey/Blue Hydro Pads.

My next order will be either:

A) MF Kit with 5" Plate

B) 105/205, 5" Plate, Flat LC Pads

Right now I may want to get comfortable with MF system before the next jump.

Will 2 cutting pads suffice for a sedan?
 
I'd definitely go for 4. I found two sufficient for one car but IME if the vehicle you're working on is quite old and contamination has reached deep into the clear the pads will get quite dirty.

I once worked on a VW polo that had not been well taken care of and after claying (sometimes twice on one panel) there was still contamination coming out of the paint (leaving the mf disc gray and brown in places).

Mike Honeyman
Distinct Image Detailing
www.distinctimagedetailing.co.za
 
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