Meguiar's Fast Finish - beading pictures

Pats300zx said:
That's pretty impressive beading for something that takes 10 minutes to apply to a whole vehicle. I am watching my application to see how the durability is.
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As fast & easy as it is to apply and remove, even if the longevity is short-lived, it's not like it's a major struggle to reapply AND the look I got after application (even non-enthusiasts noticed it looked "Better than normal)."
 
glfnaz said:
Actually I never felt the WOWAs like BFCS or WGLS give intense beading. They look great, are easy to apply, durability is OK, but they don't bead like Colinite either. The beading looks like what Don showed from this thread to me.
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That was my point. I'm not sure why the effusive praise for this product, 10 years after the first WOWA appeared.
 
Do the claimed one year durability and the fact that UFF was designed to be applied OVER a wax or another sealant set it apart from most WOWAs?
 
Setec Astronomy said:
That was my point. I'm not sure why the effusive praise for this product, 10 years after the first WOWA appeared.
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I think that FF is a GENERAL CONSUMER targeted product, one that the masses will hear about and see in local stores. Most of them have never heard of a WOWA product and this would be like a 'Miracle Glaze' to them. I'm sure there are better products out there, but the general public will likely never know they exist.

Looking at it from a novice's point of view, the extreme ease of application and removal of Fast Finish must seem miraculous and the results (at least in my case on an un-prepped car) visually stunning.

I'll give praise where praise is due, and if FF falls on its face in the durability department, I'll say that too. But for now, the three characteristics that I have experienced have been exemplary: Application, Removal and Appearance. Too add, like I mentioned before, two NON DETAILING ENTHUSIASTS, saw enough of an improvement in the appearance of my car, it drew their attention to it, and made them ask me what I had done to make the car 'look incredible like that.' And one of them went out that day to buy some for his motorcycle.
 
Being that your car was un-prepped, that may have something to do with the lack of "tight" beads.

On a side note, I saw a pro detailer use FF as a wipe on, wipe off product instead of walk away to avoid overspray. Seems like it would be the best way to use it.
 
Don M said:
I think that FF is a GENERAL CONSUMER targeted product, one that the masses will hear about and see in local stores. Most of them have never heard of a WOWA product and this would be like a 'Miracle Glaze' to them. I'm sure there are better products out there, but the general public will likely never know they exist.

Looking at it from a novice's point of view, the extreme ease of application and removal of Fast Finish must seem miraculous and the results (at least in my case on an un-prepped car) visually stunning.

I'll give praise where praise is due, and if FF falls on its face in the durability department, I'll say that too. But for now, the three characteristics that I have experienced have been exemplary: Application, Removal and Appearance. Too add, like I mentioned before, two NON DETAILING ENTHUSIASTS, saw enough of an improvement in the appearance of my car, it drew their attention to it, and made them ask me what I had done to make the car 'look incredible like that.' And one of them went out that day to buy some for his motorcycle.
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I'm not disagreeing with any of that, and I'm glad that you're happy with the product. It's just your audience here on the forum is not the "general consumer" and honestly I'm kind of underwhelmed with this product, Meg's is so late to the WOWA/coating party (at least here in the US), I just can't get excited about it.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
I'm not disagreeing with any of that, and I'm glad that you're happy with the product. It's just your audience here on the forum is not the "general consumer" and honestly I'm kind of underwhelmed with this product, Meg's is so late to the WOWA/coating party (at least here in the US), I just can't get excited about it.
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I can get excited about it if it holds up to its durability claim.
 
WRAPT C5Z06 said:
I can get excited about it if it holds up to its durability claim.
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As I said before, we can argue about whether beading is a good or bad thing, but the reality is that most of us use it as an indicator of the LSP's health. And you may be right, the OP's prep could have something to do with his beading.

But when it starts out looking like a tired LSP when it's new, how are you really going to tell if it "holds up to it's durability claim"?

Anyway, it's great Meg's has come out with this product, but I have plenty of LSP's, and I don't think I'll be trying this one.
 
WRAPT C5Z06 said:
Being that your car was un-prepped, that may have something to do with the lack of "tight" beads.

On a side note, I saw a pro detailer use FF as a wipe on, wipe off product instead of walk away to avoid overspray. Seems like it would be the best way to use it.
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I did do it the wipe on, wipe off method. Even though it goes on VERY light, there are still some areas that a "residue?" forms and needs to be lightly buffed off with the "Final Wipe" method that Mike Phillips describes you do when you're all done and are going lightly over the finish to make sure you didn't miss anything.


The Final Wipe
 
Setec Astronomy said:
As I said before, we can argue about whether beading is a good or bad thing, but the reality is that most of us use it as an indicator of the LSP's health. And you may be right, the OP's prep could have something to do with his beading.

But when it starts out looking like a tired LSP when it's new, how are you really going to tell if it "holds up to it's durability claim"?

Anyway, it's great Meg's has come out with this product, but I have plenty of LSP's, and I don't think I'll be trying this one.
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I'm going to buy FF and try it on my car. It will be properly prepped before I come to a conclusion about the beading.
 
WRAPT C5Z06 said:
I'm going to buy FF and try it on my car. It will be properly prepped before I come to a conclusion about the beading.
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Good, I hope this is a success for them. As we have seen if Meg's doesn't move a lot of product they discontinue it. Here's hoping that this product brings WOWA to the masses...unlike some of the other failed attempts to bring our corner of the world to rest of the world, like rinseless washing and tire/trim coatings.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
I'm not disagreeing with any of that, and I'm glad that you're happy with the product. It's just your audience here on the forum is not the "general consumer" and honestly I'm kind of underwhelmed with this product, Meg's is so late to the WOWA/coating party (at least here in the US), I just can't get excited about it.
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I understand your point and I'm not saying "Stop the Presses ... I've Found the Holy Grail of WOWA Sealants, and I'll never try another wax again." I think Meguiar's took so long so that it would be Bubba-proof and not have the quirks that some of the higher end products have ... tricks to application & removal - special care needs, being compromised if applied under of over another wax-sealant etc, BUT that is just a guess on my part.

As for the pro-detailer's relationship with Meg's FF, IF IT DECENTLY HOLDS UP ... it could be an option on your services list since the application process is so minimal and the cost is low. What's a better way to improve your service to the client than by adding a sealant to a typical one-step cleaner wax when the cost to you is maybe 10-15 minutes and a few cents of product (a little of this stuff does go a LONG way).
 
Don M said:
I understand your point and I'm not saying "Stop the Presses ... I've Found the Holy Grail of WOWA Sealants, and I'll never try another wax again." I think Meguiar's took so long so that it would be Bubba-proof and not have the quirks that some of the higher end products have ... tricks to application & removal - special care needs, being compromised if applied under of over another wax-sealant etc, BUT that is just a guess on my part.
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With all due respect, I think WOWA sealants were pretty much Bubba-proof when they were rolled out in February, 2007, and I don't think any of them have special needs, except perhaps with the newer water-formula UPPG. Now if Fast Finish is more of a coating, with the ease of use of a WOWA...then maybe it has a special niche, if it requires less prep than say the other easy-to-use coatings like McKee's or Pinnacle.
 
From me testing this on this hood and spraying it with the hose, the beading looks good to me. Sure rain beading is different. I will also say that it is not really a WOWA application. Can it be used as one? Sure. But the instructions still mention to give it a final wipe.

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