Menzerna Glaze test!

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Thejoyofdriving said:
I am glad you guys are so concerned, the marks are all gone, there no worrys. And yes it is a Porsche 2001 C4
So what did you end up using?


A1monkey: I've never wetsanded to remove scratches and such, haven't worked up the courage. However I did use one of those duplicolor premium repair kit to try and touch up some stone chips. It came with a paint pen, some clear, a sandidng pad (2000 grit if I remember correctly) and some rubbing compund. Anyways the compound is supposed to be used by hand but after some good amount of rubbing I decided to use the PC and a 4" yellow pad. I've yet to be able to remove the sanding marks completely. To be fair though the strongest stuff I have is Menz. IP so I need something much stronger. So I suppose a PC for removing 2000 grit marks is possible with the right product it will just take more work than with a rotary and some wool. Anything rougher than 2000 grit looks like a tough job but who konws.
 
Thejoyofdriving said:
And yes it is a Porsche 2001 C4.

I knew I was right. :D

Next time don't practice on his car. Since you might not be able to fix it.
 
Haha, your head would be a new mantle on my wall if you were my son :D

But to the glazes, really not going to do much for scratches and sanding marks, the pad is going to do the cutting work and the fillers will fill what they can in. Do an ISO wipe down to remove any fillers and see what work was done.
 
For removing the marks I used Menz IP via the festool 150. Theres really no point to post up any after shots because there is nothing to see, its pretty dam good, i turned on the halogen and i could see some faint signs, but with the naked eye its perfect. The reason i decied to do this in the first place is because TOGWT stated "Wet-sanding levels the paint (and removes orange peel, harsh acidic or alkaline marks, etc) it removes approximately 0.025- 0.003 Mils" So... I said to my self .025-.003 mils isnt that much, what the hell. The only other car we have is a mercedes, and i didnt want to do it on that because the paint is not in good shape, i wanted to see how it looks like on a clean shinny surface.
worst case is I end up having to pay a thousand bucks or what ever and that would be that, however i am confident enough that i did it. So it all turned out great, i did the test and i got what i wanted out of the test, to prove that the product actualy works.
 
Thejoyofdriving said:
For removing the marks I used Menz IP via the festool 150. Theres really no point to post up any after shots because there is nothing to see, its pretty dam good, i turned on the halogen and i could see some faint signs, but with the naked eye its perfect. The reason i decied to do this in the first place is because TOGWT stated "Wet-sanding levels the paint (and removes orange peel, harsh acidic or alkaline marks, etc) it removes approximately 0.025- 0.003 Mils" So... I said to my self .025-.003 mils isnt that much, what the hell. The only other car we have is a mercedes, and i didnt want to do it on that because the paint is not in good shape, i wanted to see how it looks like on a clean shinny surface.
worst case is I end up having to pay a thousand bucks or what ever and that would be that, however i am confident enough that i did it. So it all turned out great, i did the test and i got what i wanted out of the test, to prove that the product actualy works.

Maybe you should practice on your Huffy bike and leave your parents rides alone or they may disown you.:rolleyes:
 
Thejoyofdriving said:
Theres really no point to post up any after shots because there is nothing to see, its pretty dam good, i turned on the halogen and i could see some faint signs, but with the naked eye its perfect.
What does a paint gauge say, that it is perfect or that it is now perfectly ready for failure?

Thejoyofdriving said:
however i am confident enough that i did it
There is a difference between founded and unfounded confidence.

Thejoyofdriving said:
So it all turned out great, i did the test and i got what i wanted out of the test, to prove that the product actualy works.
And that needed proving because ...?
 
Strokin04 said:
Maybe you should practice on your Huffy bike and leave your parents rides alone or they may disown you.:rolleyes:
your pushing my limits pal. Before I loose it im going to do something I should have done a long time ago and end this, i have had enough of both of you.
 
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Joy, I've restrained myself from responding to your posts simply because they irritate me, and I figure if I've nothing positive to say, say nothing at all. But I just have to chime in here.

There's absolutely no reason to wetsand a car that does not need wetsanding just to see if a glaze will conceal marring. It's ludicrous. You've removed CC that did not need removing. No matter how few microns, it's gone for good unless it's resprayed, for no good reason.

Listen to and heed the advice the majority of people on this board are giving you. And please remove "Pro Detailer" from your occupation in your profile. You're giving a bad name to those who truly are.
 
Well when I first read that I did not know it was a porsche wich makes this endevor even more messed up, however it does show that the glaze does fill alot of scratches I was always a little sceptical of glazes.(havent been detailing with a machine long). My question is I want to see pictures of the finished product without glaze or wax on it. Did you get rid of all the scratches? I want to see pictures. Also worst case scenerio $1000 to repaint why did you not use your car?
you also say that you turned on the halogen lights and can see some marks but with the naked eye you can not. Now does that mean any light so if the sun is out it is not the naked eye every parking lot has lights that will show everything I figured that you knew what you were doing when I posted my first post I havent been around here long so I did not realize how crazy it is to wet sand for practice.
 
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Who really gives a damn what the car is or if it's his dads. I really couldn't care if the car was totally stripped down of all its paint just to show me some pics. I back the test, atleast it's something to look at. I would support paintless dent removal test also. So if you have time, please put a ding or dent in the porsche and try removing with PDR methods, and take some pics. We will all benefit.
 
Gnarboots11 said:
Who really gives a damn what the car is or if it's his dads. I really couldn't care if the car was totally stripped down of all its paint just to show me some pics. I back the test, atleast it's something to look at. I would support paintless dent removal test also. So if you have time, please put a ding or dent in the porsche and try removing with PDR methods, and take some pics. We will all benefit.

ROFLMAO
 
Gnarboots11 said:
I would support paintless dent removal test also. So if you have time, please put a ding or dent in the porsche and try removing with PDR methods, and take some pics.
Don't say that. He might think you are actually serious and go and do it because "Gnarboots11 told me so".

While on the same subject, would you also support proof of crash test rating?
 
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