Metabo settings?

FMINUS said:
COPPER? PLEASE DONT TELL ME IT WAS ORANGE?!??!?!??!?! :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
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It was actually like a copper metallic color. It's the only one I have ever seen that color. Very unusual color. It looked very nice!
 
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Nica said:
I would have to agree with you about the Cyclo there ZoranC. ... I'll hold on to it for ever though, as I know that it will come in handy for certain details.
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For which kind of details you foresee it coming in as handy?

Nica said:
As for the Festool, I'm not completely sold on it. Perhaps one of those tools that I should have purchased first rather then later. I can do with out it as I'm quite efficient with my Metabo but perhaps at a later date it would be a great addition to the collection :D
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As I think on the subject my thoughts are:

1) Doing heavy correction on plastic panels is very risky with rotary. Festool is a perfect fit for such tasks. It is my understanding Totoland Mach still uses Festool for such tasks even though he has Metabo and is proficient with it.

2) There is that whole debate about finishing with rotary. While some extremely experienced rotray users can do almost anything with rotary quite a number of high level professionals (like Mike Phillips, I hear) still do not expect to be able to do that with 100% certainty and do count on possibility they will have to do final pass correcting results of rotary with something else. At such moments it is good to have something powerful enough to take out holograms on a black car with ultra hard clear.

3) When all you have to do is some paint maintenance and you have number of cars waiting for you rotary whole day long might be too much both for paint and for your muscles and PC is not a solution either. Vibration free powerful tool will get you to results quick and without pain.

4) If you need to sand down large surface, whether because you are repainting it or you are doing sanding of a clear, you can not do that with neither PC nor rotary, much less by hand. Tool at the power level and specs of Festool is what you would be looking at. Mirka makes 6" pads in up to 4000 grit and Micromesh is also available in 6" pads up to 12000 grit. Combine the two and talk about real smooth real fast afterwards.

5) You can not use rotary for the rest of your sanding needs in household. You can try using PC for that but let's see how far that will take you.

So I feel rotary will never exclude need for tool like Festool.
 
Congrats with your metabo :D Its a great tool!! Maybe you are getting a orange Audi S3? :D
 
ZoranC said:
For which kind of details you foresee it coming in as handy?
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Well so far I've done nothing but correction after correction after correction. I'm hoping that soon I'll have the same vehicles I've corrected and perhaps then I'll use the Cyclo. Not sure though, eather that or I could use it on "special projects" which I have a few coming up.

ZoranC said:
As I think on the subject my thoughts are:

1) Doing heavy correction on plastic panels is very risky with rotary. Festool is a perfect fit for such tasks. It is my understanding Totoland Mach still uses Festool for such tasks even though he has Metabo and is proficient with it.

2) There is that whole debate about finishing with rotary. While some extremely experienced rotray users can do almost anything with rotary quite a number of high level professionals (like Mike Phillips, I hear) still do not expect to be able to do that with 100% certainty and do count on possibility they will have to do final pass correcting results of rotary with something else. At such moments it is good to have something powerful enough to take out holograms on a black car with ultra hard clear.

3) When all you have to do is some paint maintenance and you have number of cars waiting for you rotary whole day long might be too much both for paint and for your muscles and PC is not a solution either. Vibration free powerful tool will get you to results quick and without pain.

4) If you need to sand down large surface, whether because you are repainting it or you are doing sanding of a clear, you can not do that with neither PC nor rotary, much less by hand. Tool at the power level and specs of Festool is what you would be looking at. Mirka makes 6" pads in up to 4000 grit and Micromesh is also available in 6" pads up to 12000 grit. Combine the two and talk about real smooth real fast afterwards.

5) You can not use rotary for the rest of your sanding needs in household. You can try using PC for that but let's see how far that will take you.

So I feel rotary will never exclude need for tool like Festool.
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Boy you got quite the sales pitch going on there buddy :D hahahaha just teasing. Out of all the points you pointed out I would agree with you on #4. The others, well not significan't enough for me at the moment. I've never had to wet sand an entire vehicle, I'd love to do it but I don't think it will be a comon request. But no doubt the Festool is a good tool and thank you for all the info and supporting feed back. I enjoyed it and very informative.
 
Nica said:
Well so far I've done nothing but correction after correction after correction. I'm hoping that soon I'll have the same vehicles I've corrected and perhaps then I'll use the Cyclo. Not sure though, eather that or I could use it on "special projects" which I have a few coming up.
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Not ready to share why those special projects might benefit more from Cyclo instead of something else?

Nica said:
Boy you got quite the sales pitch going on there buddy :D hahahaha just teasing. ...
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Not a pitch, just thinking loud of what advantages might be. Not everything applies all the time to everybody but thinking in advance what tool might be used for does help.

Nica said:
I've never had to wet sand an entire vehicle, I'd love to do it but I don't think it will be a comon request.
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I don't know how common it is but I do have car that should be completely repainted down the road and at that point in time just that job would pay off for the tool.
 
I agree with you ZoranC about the Festool and paying off. In reality if you detail on the side things pay off in the long run. Heck majority of the items I've purchased have paid off allready. I'm going to seriously consider the Festool though, up to now I've just heard good things about it but I haven't done any re-search my self....so I'll start looking into the Festool and I'll decide then.

Seroiusly though thanks for the feed back I meant no disrespect with any of my coments, I alwyas enjoy feed back....any kind of feed back.
 
Nica said:
I agree with you ZoranC about the Festool and paying off. In reality if you detail on the side things pay off in the long run.
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It's same like with any other thing, whether it is polishing or lawn mowing or whatever, if one thinks what time it will take him and how much his time is worth to him. Time is, as they say, money, even if one doesn't get money for it. If one can finish paint correction in say 3 hours rather than 6 and can spend remaining 3 hours being with gf, fishing, whatever, then one might see "payoff" in purchasing something that lets them work faster, even without ever seeing actuall currency back out of it.

For example, I used to once in a while to recondition shower walls by hand. As you can imagine it took forever and was exhausting. PC is not powerfull enough for it. However, this weekend I had random orbit that was powerful enough for the task. Task was completed much faster and much better, I was much less exhausted and I had plenty time left to go and do what I enjoy.

Nica said:
Seroiusly though thanks for the feed back I meant no disrespect with any of my coments ...
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You are welcome and I do not know what you are talking about when you say "no disrespect meant" as I have not perceived anything even remotely close to that :cheers:
 
Whenever I wet sand part of a vehicle or the whole thing it is always done by hand, no need for a machine, plus it is hard to check for dirt using a power tool.
 
ZoranC said:
You are welcome and I do not know what you are talking about when you say "no disrespect meant" as I have not perceived anything even remotely close to that :cheers:
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Oh well you know how it is when your typing, hard to really express what you mean..but just didn't want you to take anything I said the wrong way that's all buddy, just in case :D
 
FMINUS said:
The new car will be German, have a "3" in it, and its not a Bimmer, and flat Orange to contrast with my Laguna Seca.

Go figure THAT one out!
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So what is it? Spill the beans already! :D
 
ASPHALT ROCKET said:
Whenever I wet sand part of a vehicle or the whole thing it is always done by hand, no need for a machine, plus it is hard to check for dirt using a power tool.
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Yes, there is no need for a machine but some people choose to do it with machine. Wet sanding of a whole car by machine is nothing new nor rare. Also, wet sanding of a clear is not only sanding one might want to do during body work. Doing all of that by hand would take very long time.
 
Nica said:
Oh well you know how it is when your typing, hard to really express what you mean..but just didn't want you to take anything I said the wrong way that's all buddy, just in case :D
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I appreciate that :) and yes I do know how it is, usually I am the one that ends up being misunderstood. ;) Except on DW. I think my message was loud and clear there ;) :D
 
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