Mike Phillips VIF or Vehicle Inspection Form

Ncs0816 said:
Meg's are not good products. He used 105 and 205. He goes through less then a quarter of the bottle each on one car. Each bottle costs 15 dollars. He spends two dollars on product on the car maybe. Then he has tons of pads. I know the pads do toast forever. So lets days he charges me $.50 a pad. He goes through 5 pads on the car. He ends up maybe using 10 dollars in product an pads and towels.
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So his labour charge is like 10$/hour? Megs are good products. Even I use them. I guess he is doing this as a hobby rather than professionals, whose bread and butter is detailing. So he can afford to charge less. 10$ an hour is kinda very less. Pros have tons of other expenses like washing equipment, good shampoos, gas expenses, lighting etc.

In any case, if you are happy with the end result, then I guess he is doing a good job :)

Disclaimer :- Im not a professional detailer, just do my own car thats all :)

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If I pay him 70. And he does it for two hours that's $35.00 an hour. Where did you get 10?
 
What is a professional detailer? Is there such thing as a detailing school.
 
He does five section passed each spot. Each spot is about 2 feet by 2 feet
 
Whoa!! 2 hours?? I dont even finish my bike in that time and that includes washing, waxing, lubing the chain, dressing the plastics and the engine.

No way can he do in 2 hours even if he cuts corners etc. Not one step also.

Suppose, each section in one step takes upto 5 to 6 minutes including priming pad, section passes and buffing off the polish.

On a hatchback, if I divide the sides to 4 sections each that makes total of 8, roof = another 4 sections, hood = 2 sections, hatch= 2 sections, front and rear bumper = 2x2= 4 sections, front left and right fender 2 sections, A pillar, C pillar 4 sections.
Total number of sections =8+4+2+2+4+2+4=26
Multiply that by 5minutes each = 26*5= 130 minutes = 2 hours 10 minutes.

And this is just polishing the car.

Now add 3 minutes per section for LSP application, buffing = 26*3= 78 minutes = 1 hour 18 minutes.

Now dressing tyres 5 minutes totally as minimum.

So in total just the basic of detailing itself comes to 130+78+5= 213minutes/60= 3.5 hours.

And thats just a one step.

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Instead of you guys spending so much arguing, how about you guys spend the time you guys are talking about, educating.

(If you think I'm talking to you, then do the math)

Good Day :)
 
I know he's a busy man, but I requested one back on April 30 of this year and never received one. No biggie I suppose. It is a pretty hot request.
 
Thanks for getting us back on track lol. 05gpgtp whats your email id? Il send you a copy.

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oh a felt like throwing in, 2 hours isn't squat for a detail. That's just basic cleaning or even what a lot call an express detail, and heck for 2 hours that's more like an exterior express detail. 5-7 hours on a full detail WITHOUT any compound or correction is what I end of spending time wise. Add 10 + hours for a good 2 step paint correction PLUS add that 5-7 hours for the rest of the actual detail. Usually 3 to 3-1/2 hours inside and 3 to 3-1/2 hours outside give or take depending on level of cleaning needed.

Do it right with a full detail + paint correction a good 2 day weekend will take care of that, for the most part. I don't charge $100 per hour. I probably don't charge enough for the time I spend on each particular vehicle, but I tend to focus on quality of work and would rather take a hit on price and spend 2 days doing a detail the right way and thorough. I want my customers to come back and spread that word of mouth about my great work.

Just my .02 cents. I charge that to look at a car before the price is discussed. I think my time is worth at least that, lol. (just kidding)

Now like hermandez said, get educated on the real process and stop arguing about something you may not fully understand.

If he does a satisfactory job for you at $70 then keep him. Otherwise realize "professional" detailers will job more than that and take a much longer time to do a car right. Some people of course just want a quickie done or whatever to make it look good, but understand when you get into cotton swabs, mini detail brushes, leaf blowers, foaming systems, 2 bucket method, carpet extractors, shampooers, compound, polishes, waxes, sealants, dressings, etc etcccccc. it takes time to do those things, the RIGHT way.

I don't think I could rush a detail inside and out and get it done in 2 hours, even cutting corners. I don't see how that's even possible, lol.

Ok not arguing with anyone, just pointing out my experiences and that .02 I mentioned. :) Just enjoy detailing and getting a detail and move on people!!

Sorry about my 2 page book I wrote there. Just got home from work and bored now, lol.

Oh anyone want a detail this weekend? I'm open!! :) Come on over!
 
How does one section on a one step take 5-6 minutes. If you have the right pad and the right polish. 5 to six section passes should take a minute
 
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