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My health is so so, I don’t really work on my car too much anymore. But I certainly like a clean car. So I can muster up the effort annually to polish/treat the car with car Pro essence gloss enhancer using my orbital, and then I have a question. Which of the below products that I own would be the most durable? Once a month I use a touchless car wash down the street That is easy on my car, I just set it for rinse with none of their harsh wash chemicals. I Really only only need to knock the dust off the car from the condo garage, it never really gets too dirty as I’m not driving much these days.So how would you rank the below products for spray and wipe or spray on/hose off? I realize how to apply all the different products listed below. I am looking for the most durable, not really the most glamorous or glossiest…This is for the BMW X2 listed below if the paint composition/hardness matters.

Carpro Hydro2 lite?
carpro reload
blackfire si02 spray
gyeon wetcoat
mckees 10 min paint sealant
blackfire crystal seal
Meguires hybrid ceramic spray.

Bottom line: is any one of these better than the others when it comes to durability?

thank you in advance
 
I am guessing you might be a senior citizen like me....what I use for a dusty car is a waterless wash...spray it on then wipe off....then I use blackfire SIO2 sealant spray...maybe you can try that
 
I am a rinseless guy from way back vs waterless,I was a duragloss rinseless guy for years then I graduated to Echo2, I don’t even wanna do that anymore, touchless drive-through is what I want to use when I fill up, and then I want to know what of the above is the most durable after a few washes.

Right now I think my plan is to drive through the car wash and about every fifth or sixth time take it next-door to the spray wand wash, spray on Hydro2 light, and blow it off with a spray wand ,drive 5 min home and wipe down with a slightly moist waffle weave. I do like the blackfire stuff though, that’s what on the old car right now.
 
•IMO:
-McKee’s 10 min paint sealant, and the
blackfire crystal seal are the only true
“wipe-on” products on your list {ok, it
would be a stretch, but perhaps blackfire
si02 spray could/should also be included
in that category :dunno:}

•And then, after taking into consideration
your below statement, I’ll say:

-‘go with BF Crystal Seal: Hard to beat the
ease of using “wipe-on” and then just walk
away products’—especially for us Boomers!
amiright...?
glen e said:
I do like the blackfire stuff though...
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Bob
 
You could probably get three months plus out of Sonax Brilliant Shine Detailer with a garaged vehicle.

I know it's not on your list. But easy wipe on application and looks great.

You know, there's nothing that says you have to do the whole car at once. It's easy to break it into sections (Roof, hood, rear, drivers side, passenger side) and get surprisingly good visual results. Just do the amount that gets your blood moving. Then, next time start where you left off. Kind of a never ending exercise rotation. It would probably be good for your health
 
Are you sure the touch less gets everything off? I’ve read of people who’ve tested pressure washers with various products and even those need physical touching to remove all of the dirt. I’d worry that you wouldn’t get all of the dirt off with a touch less wash and then you’d be wiping a sealant on with dirt and swirling dirt into your paint while you’re trying to protect it.

And I use Uber Rinseless and Washless with SiO2 but used to use Duragloss Rinseless and still use a lot of their products.

Edit: And I know you said garage dust but you’re still driving it some, even if a little and anytime you take it out you’re getting contaminants on your paint.
 
I also have some Carpro reset. So actually before I do the carpro essence I would use the reset to get everything clean. Then I would apply something after that, I agree that the McKees and the crystal seal are probably the strongest most durable. And yes I plan to do the essence over three or four days doing two panels a day, I have COPD, that is fairly controlled,But I don’t like to stand for too long a time, it gets very tiring, so an orbital/essence all in one operation is too much.
I actually may hire a neighbors kid to do the essence with me supervising. He details his car now And knows how to use an orbital.

Thanks for all the comments.
 
glen e said:
Which of the below products that I own would be the most durable? ...

... I am looking for the most durable, not really the most glamorous or glossiest…This is for the BMW X2 listed below if the paint composition/hardness matters.

Carpro Hydro2 lite?
carpro reload
blackfire si02 spray
gyeon wetcoat
mckees 10 min paint sealant
blackfire crystal seal
Meguires hybrid ceramic spray.
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dgage said:
Are you sure the touch less gets everything off? I’ve read of people who’ve tested pressure washers with various products and even those need physical touching to remove all of the dirt. I’d worry that you wouldn’t get all of the dirt off with a touch less wash and then you’d be wiping a sealant on with dirt and swirling dirt into your paint while you’re trying to protect it.
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glen e said:
I actually may hire a neighbors kid to do the essence with me supervising. He details his car now And knows how to use an orbital.

Thanks for all the comments.
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So ...

1. Hire neighbor's kid.
2. Do a good 2 bucket wash.
3. Polish with Essence.
4. Then have him apply either the Reload or the Blackfire SiO2 Spray.

Supervise him as necessary, since you said you are familiar with how to apply these products.

Everybody wins ... you get the work done and he picks up experience.
 
Thanks....So it’s your opinion that either the reload or the blackfire SI02 is probably the most durable that can stand up to the most touchless car washes before it needs to be reapplied? (Of the ones on my list)
 
Honestly none of those products are going to last that long. I would look into a more durable spray coating. I would look into either the Adams UV spray ceramic coating or their new graphene ceramic spray coating. Super easy to use and will pair nicely with Essence. You can reapply months down the road.

CanCoat would be the other option as well. CanCoat over a primer polish is a great combination.
 
I used Gyeon CanCoat and I expect that to last about 6 months, which I’ll redo it again in the spring. And use SiO2 infused wash (Uber SiO2 Rinseless) to keep it extra protected. So that is an option too. CanCoat is pretty much spray on towel, wipe on, and then wipe off. Real quick and easy to do.

Here’s a shot of the beading 2 months after applying CanCoat and a couple days after washing with Uber SiO2 Rinseless.
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Thanks, that’s the answer I was looking for...durability after the touchless washes....I’ll look into both....
 
glen e

Glad to see that you are still out & about......long time no see. Back to Bimmers once again? BMW is in your blood, face it. Sorry no suggestions for your questions. I am reading the suggestions with interest though; I'm also dealing with COPD and congestive heart failure, along with a few other goodies. Ain't it fun getting old? I also like to keep my ride presentable but with minimal effort. The days of 8-10 hour full details are just a fading memory now.

Yes I'm off topic and yes I'll shut up.
 
Rick you can always get off topic with me… Hope you’re doing better, my COPD is controlled but I still have to watch how much I exert myself. My days of detailing are really over, just looking for something relatively easy that will last. My orbital and rotary have cobwebs on them! Yeah the x2 is a company demo, a perk of their retirement pkg....Gotta love a company that takes care of it retirees in this day and age.
 
What the hell are we doing up at this hour anyway? Mine was leg cramps that just wouldn't quit. I do hope you're up for a less painful reason.

Later
 
I stopped sleeping well at 65… LOL…I was just thinking the same thing… I usually rip my CPAP mask off in disgust around 5am, I’ll be back in bed by 7 or 8am.....
 
As Bette Davis said, "Old age ain't no place for sissies!" More true words were never spoken.
 
Seems like a ceramic coat may be a good option for your situation, then you can top with reload etc. Maybe someone on the forum in your area could help out with application? Where do you live?


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You are certainly correct, I have a near full bottle of CquartzUK and thought about that, but it’s a car that gets traded every year and I don’t want to expend the effort nor have somebody put on a coating. . I also don’t like the fact that all my coatings I’ve done in the past, (3 cars) were susceptible to water spots. So I think I’ll just go with a wipe on or spray/rinse product this time ....

thanks for your suggestion guys, I think I’ve made my decision:
*Essence/orbital
*Wipe on blackfire si02
*Spray/ rinse hydr02 lite every 60-90 days.....
* Maybe.........do the front grill area with CQUK to make love bugs come off easier....

With all the crap that I already own thats just sitting on my shelf, I just can’t justify springing for the additional cost of can coat or anything else… And it’s a leased car.
 
glen e...what I use as I take care of my car is a garden stool with wheels....I sit on it and roll to the next section. Its the right height.....has storage...might be good for you..........
 
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