My 98 Eclipse GSX - First time buffing

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So.. As the title states, I've never done machine polishing. In fact, I'd say using a Meguires hand polish is about as far as I've gone in the polishing world. My dad has painted several show winning vehicles so I knew that if I got stuck, I could always ask for help, but I wanted to do this on my own.

The Problem: (Orange Peel)

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Products used:

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I was all by myself today so I ended up working through some really good picture opportunites :rolleyes: (notes for the future..)

Wash:
Foam Cannon using DP Xtreme Foam
2 Bucket Method w/ Grit Gaurds & Meguires Gold Class Shampoo

Clay:
DP Universal Clay & DP Rinseless Diluted

Sanding:
1500 to within 3/4" of edge (taped edges)
2500 across entire area

HoodandFendersSanded.jpg


I realize the car wasn't finished in this picture. Goes to show you how "all over the place" my mind was.. When I finally stepped back and looked at this, I almost freaked out cause I wasn't sure it was all going to come out. But I knew that AG wouldn't lead me in the wrong direction, so I stayed faithful and kept on sanding.

Here comes the new kid and his Griot's with 5.5" lc flat pads.. Btw, I love this combo. I was thinking that it was going to be like a rotary and take me for a ride, but it was actually a piece of cake. One thing I did notice though, was how long it was taking to pull out these scratches. I was using 105 and a orange pad for a while. I have 4 pads and used all 4 to do a hood and 2 fenders.

50/50 Shot: (After 105 & LC Orange)

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At this point, I was sold. I knew that if I kept at it, I could finish this.. I moved on to the passenger side and kept on going.. (Refer back to missing picture opportunities)

Process:
M105 w/ Orange lc flat
M105 w/ White lc flat
M205 w/ White lc flat
M205 w/ Black lc flat
DP Poli-Coat w/ Black lc flat
Pinnacle Liquid Souveran w/ MF Applicator

*One thing that killed my time was after I was done with M105, I realized that a piece of sand or some grit from the sand paper, while sanding in the beginning. It wasn't visible when the whole hood was sanded, but as soon as the whole thing was buffed out, it was VERY clear. I went back over it with 1500 and then 2500. It set me back about an hour (read title, yes I'm a newbie... ;) )

After Shots:

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AfterSealantandWax.jpg


And finally, my reflection shot:

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To finish up:

Wash:
Foam Cannon using DP Xtreme Foam
2 Bucket Method w/ Grit Gaurds & Meguires Gold Class Shampoo

Wheels:
APC+ 4:1 w/ Daytona Speed Brush
Sealed with Collinite 845

Tires
Optimum Tire Shine w/ MF Applicator

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I wasn't going for absolute perfect paint, but I wanted it to be pretty close. It is a daily driver, and knowing that up front helped in my expectations. I can see a few very faint scratches here and there, but it won't bother me. Would you say those are probably a few sand scratches that didn't get buffed out? Still learning...

Thank you to all who've posted on these forums. I've probably read one of your posts (especially if your post count is over 1000). I'll be sure to keep reading and contribute when I can.. With more pictures of course!

Nick
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Great job! Especially for your first time. I wouldn't have guessed it was your first time polishing to be honest. Keep up the great work! :dblthumb2:
 
Wow great job! Kudos for trying to remove sanding marks with a DA. It's good that using M105 with an orange pad worked so well!
 
Wow great job! Kudos for trying to remove sanding marks with a DA. It's good that using M105 with an orange pad worked so well!

Thank you. I'll admit, I do see a Rotary in my future, hopefully a flex.. It took a LOT of passes. I can't see this again until I can pick up a rotary. I'll stick to smaller corrections.. lol.

Great job! Especially for your first time. I wouldn't have guessed it was your first time polishing to be honest. Keep up the great work! :dblthumb2:

Appreciate the kind words. Once I got past the numerous passes of m105, I felt more comfortable because I knew if I can get this far, I can finish.



To everyone who posts in the "Show N' Shine" sections with pic heavy content, I can honestly say I never realized how much work you put into it. For you all: :dblthumb2:
 
You are a brave one! I would never have sanded a finish without having like Mike Phillips there with me lol! But, great job! Car looks phenomenal.
 
Nicely done man. You definitely got the detailer in you. Especially for that being your first time. It might have been a lot easier if you used a rotary to pull out those sand scratches IMO.

Doesn't matter though, cause it clearly came out really nice. I just find it quicker with a rotary. That's a situation where the power of a rotary is helpful. Those left over scratches could be anything. Sometimes when you clean that paint up like that, things that didn't stand out before...all the sudden do.

Awesome job!!! :props::props:
 
Man.. nice turn around for your first time! Amazing how well Megs twins work huh? Also.. how in the world did Mitsubishi go from this Eclipse which actually looks good to the latest generation? So hideous.
 
nice work man, kudos on a great job! I got my first one lined up as soon as this snow/ice madness ends
 
Nice work Nick!! When your done with yours I'll drop mine off for a clean up and buff haha. :buffing:

Nate
 
You are a brave one! I would never have sanded a finish without having like Mike Phillips there with me lol! But, great job! Car looks phenomenal.

That's where my dad comes in. I knew if I couldn't pull out the scratches using the combo I had, I would call him and ask for some help. He has a rotary and some pads that are a little more aggressive, which probably would've done 5x as fast, but I wanted to try this on my own. Knowing someone is there to help if you don't get it, makes taking that leap of faith a lot easier.

Nicely done man. You definitely got the detailer in you. Especially for that being your first time. It might have been a lot easier if you used a rotary to pull out those sand scratches IMO.

Doesn't matter though, cause it clearly came out really nice. I just find it quicker with a rotary. That's a situation where the power of a rotary is helpful. Those left over scratches could be anything. Sometimes when you clean that paint up like that, things that didn't stand out before...all the sudden do.

Awesome job!!! :props::props:

Thanks! I couldn't afford a flex up front, but maybe after doing a few details, I'll be able to use that money on the PE-14? ;)

Question for you.. When you do a job like this, do you use the rotary for the 1st step (my m105 w/ lc orange) and then move on to a DA to prevent or cover up the rotary swirls?

Man.. nice turn around for your first time! Amazing how well Megs twins work huh? Also.. how in the world did Mitsubishi go from this Eclipse which actually looks good to the latest generation? So hideous.

Meg twins is fantastic. Tried and Proven, perfect for a first timer on a budget. And as for the Mitsubishi, I have no idea, but it's sickning! Every generation after mine looks more and more girly. They went from over-engineered turbo charged 4 cyls, awd, and a good looks to overweight, fwd 4&6 cyls that don't react to mods very well. :bash:

Excellent work!! Very very good for your first time.

Thank You! Now if only I can work my way up to your level someday. Excellent work in the "Show N' Shine" forum!

nice work man, kudos on a great job! I got my first one lined up as soon as this snow/ice madness ends

If possible, have a rotary for the 1st step. Then once you knock down all the sand scratches, you can move on to the DA. Otherwise, you'll be there for hours like me. lol

Nice work Nick!! When your done with yours I'll drop mine off for a clean up and buff haha. :buffing:

Nate

Hey Nate, first off, welcome to the forum (seeing as it's your 1st post). I know you've been lurking here for a while... ;) Sure man sounds good. Would you like me to forward you my price list? Haha.. Asking off today for Detail Fest. Better put in yours before 50 Cent does at your work.
 
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First off, thanks for all the compliments. It gives me confidence that I'm headed in the right direction. Now for the good stuff..

It was finally the weekend, and I decided that I would knock out the drivers door and rear quarter. I also decided to throw in a rotary and see how that went. The rotary is a Milwaukee and really did a great job (not exactly sure on the model).

The Problem: (Middle of door. Same spot as picture later)

DriversDoorOrangePeel.jpg


I went through the same process as when I did my hood and fenders..

I taped the car off using painters tape: (Lines are on the panels to help in preventing 1500 sand scratches near the edges. I had tape on the door/quarter line but I guess I added that a little later)

DriversSideTapedOff.jpg


So, after the tape, I went to work. I sanded with 1500 and 2500 just like last time. Last time I had a tough battle with some areas where I missed with the 2500 and it's not exactly easy pulling out 1500 sand scratches with a DA. Took forever and I knew I wouldn't make the same mistake.

SandingDriversSide.jpg


Once I finished with the 1500, I used the air compressor to blow it all off and make sure I'd covered the majority of the panels. I didn't wanna chance it with having to pull out pretty big scratches near the edges or take away any more clear than I had too. I figured I would just use 2500 and smoothe out all the orange peel.

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Skip ahead a couple hours and we have our first 50/50 shot. This is the same spot as shown above (or as close to the same spot as possible). This is after using the rotary and a Meguires Magenta Cutting Pad. I was a complete newbie with a rotary so it was really frustrating at first. That damn thing was jumping all over the place when I first started. My dad was showing me how to just barely get the pad off the surface on one side or the other so it's not completely flat. It definitely worked wonders. In the end, I was able to control it at any angle and get it to go where I wanted it to. After seeing the correction time this thing had, I now know a rotary is definitely in my future. Maybe not my near future, but I will own one someday. Especially if my dad continues to paint. I'll be able to help him out.

DoorafterM105.jpg


At work: (Pretty much just moving the light to shine on the 12x12 are I'm trying to correct)

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On to the quarter panel 50/50:

As you can see in my 50/50's, I'm not creating a perfect line because I keep backing away from the tape for some reason. Like it's just going to shoot off when I hit it with the pad..lol. I guess it doesn't matter, but it's just not as dramatic of a 50/50 when the light is showing you didn't even finish your area. lol. Of course I went back over it once the tape was removed. ;)

DriversQuarterAfterM105.jpg


Now on to my favorite part, the final product! The door and quarter turned out better than I had imagined. They were a lot harder to do simply because of them being vertical rather than horizontal like the 85% of the hood and fenders. I was really proud of the work that was completed.
Im the MAN

Divers Side Door - Before:

DriversDoorOrangePeel.jpg


Now for the Afters!

DoorShowNShine2.jpg


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And one for the Rear Quarter..

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Process:

Wash (Same as Page 1)
Clay (Same as Page 1)
Sand (Same as Page 1)

Polish (1st step)
Milwaukee Rotary w/ Magenta Cutting Pad
Meguires 105

Polish (2nd step)
GG ROP w/ lc 5.5" Orange
Meguires 105

Polish (3rd step)
GG ROP w/ lc 5.5" Orange & White
Meguires 205

Sealant (Same as Page 1)
Was (Same as Page 1)
 
hey man awesome work!!!

how long did the process take (both 1st and 2nd go around)

thanks!
 
Very Good work!!!! Looks like you have the knack for this kind of work!
 
hey man awesome work!!!

how long did the process take (both 1st and 2nd go around)

thanks!

First off, thank you! :)

I'd say it took me about 7-8 hours (6-7 if I didn't stop) to do each. So about 15 hours worth of work combined at this point. Pretty sure the other side will go a lot faster as soon as I get to it. I'm gonna get nice light setup which will help, but the biggest thing is going to be knowing how to use a rotary now and having a pretty good idea what pad/polish to use at each stage.


Very Good work!!!! Looks like you have the knack for this kind of work!

Thank you! I've always been ocd about cleaning my car (little did I know I was doing it wrong all thsee years). Once I found this forum, I started reading as much as possible and am finally able to produce some results for the AG forums. I think once I've done this, I'll have a better idea of how seriously damanged a cars paint is, and make more accurate assumptions in time required & products needed.
 
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