My first DIY correction - My 2006 Caddy CTS-V

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Well, after spending a few months here reading around and asking a few questions, I placed my first order. It included a GG 6" polisher, the 5" Meguires microfiber DA system kit, appropriate BP, some extra 5" pads, some 3" pads and BP, a bottle of Collinite 845, 2 hydro-tech crimson pads to apply that, and some other odds and ends including some quality microfiber towels, etc. About a week ago, I finally set a day aside to put all this stuff to work. Here are a few pics of what I was dealing with (thanks to a local "detailer" who took me for $200 and left me far worse off than I started):
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So, as you can see, I had a bit of work to do. Some areas of the car (namely the hood and trunk deck lid) were almost grey-looking they were so swirled.

After re-watching all the how-to videos I could and rereading all the great advise from you guys in my various start-up threads, I got to work.

PREP:
I washed using 2 bucket method and grit guards, then clayed using Riccardo's yellow clay and a mixture of water and Optimum No Rinse.

CORRECTION COMPOUND:

This took about 6 hours with short breaks. I tried to stay in 2x2 sections, but think I went larger most of the time, even though I kept telling myself not to. Noob mistake, but I think it worked out anyway.

I used compressed air to clean my pad after every section or 2. After each cleaning, I would add another 2-3 pea sized drops to my pad. I went with about as much pressure as I could while still allowing the pad to spin (black mark on BP helped a lot), and used a very slow arm speed. I had my GG set at 3.5 for the recommended OPM's. Once a whole panel was done, I would wipe off. The product came off very easily and was an overall pleasure to deal with. After this step alone, I felt like I was ready for a wax/sealant already. It corrected most of the swirls and came out looking glossy and really didn't leave anything terribly ugly behind. I think I could have got more of the surface scratches out had I adjusted my technique a bit, but I was thrilled just to see the majority of swirls disappearing before my eyes.

FINISHING WAX

This step took me an hour and a half or so, if I remember correctly. I cleaned the pad less frequently (every 2-3 sections), and felt like I was using less product than the compounding step too. Here, I used a pretty quick (too quick?) arm speed, and really not much more pressure than just the weight of the machine. I had my GG DA set to 2.5 in order to meet the recommended OPM for this step. I found it tough not to work on larger than 2x2 sections here too. As with the first step, once a full panel was done, I would buff off. The stuff came off very easily. Again, a pleasure to work with.

Here are some shots of the results after just this 2 step process. Pretty impressive, I must say. Especially considering that my technique likely left a lot to be desired.

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Just to give an idea of the finishing wax at work:

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FINAL STEP:
After all the positive things I read about Collinite 845, I had to try it out. I gave the finishing wax a few days to cure and applied the 845 today. Unfortunately this is where I get a little disappointed. NOT IN THE 845, but rather in whatever the heck happened. I think I somehow installed some new defects (swirls/holograms) during this step. Maybe it's because I've been staring at the car in awe for a week now and my eyes are just getting pickier, or maybe the direct sun and new glossiness was just bringing out things I didn't see before, or maybe I screwed up; I don't know. I read the how-to on 845 and really wanted to put this stuff on super thin, so maybe I went too thin and put some defects in that way. I dabbed the clean windows frequently to make sure I still had product on the pad, but maybe I didn't have enough.
Anyway, I applied the 845 with crimson HydroTech pads, employing a pretty quick arm speed and doing about a panel at a time. I probably did about 3-4 "section passes" of each panel, which I wasn't sure of... Just kinda winged it. In about an hour, the car was covered and I left it for about 30 minutes before I buffed off in the same order I applied. The wax came off pretty easily, so I definitely didn't put it on too thick. The gloss was amazing and wet-looking, and I was really impressed with the product. Again, the disappointment just came when I got it into the sunlight and saw some flaws that had appeared, most likely due to my technique. Anyway, here are the final results after the 845 application today:

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Thanks for reading and I hope this helps anyone who is in the position I was in.

Anyone with any feedback, constructive criticism, anything to help me for next time I do this, please feel free to post up!


Lastly, Should/could this go into the product feedback sub-forum as well?
 
Looks great! Nice job for your first time!!

I tried 845 before and will never use it again. I have no desire to use a wax that you have to be "picky" with when it comes to application. I like to use LSP's that are more forgiving, even if you use too much. Not to say 845 doesn't perform GREAT, it's just the application that I don't like.
 
Nice work. You may disappointed with some of the marks that are still showing but you did a much better job than the "professional" you had work on the car.
 
Looks pretty good. Its hard for your first correction to be on a car with such a hard clear coat. Im sure the owner was more than happy with the results though.
 
This isn't a business for me, I'm just interested in being able to do my own vehicles. As the owner of the car, I'm happy with the results. It just bugs me to know that it could be better. lol I'll be tempted to go it again in the spring, but I'm unsure of how often is too often with this MF system. Obviously I don't want to be polishing the clear right off the car. lol

My wife drives a 2004 Mazda3 which I plan to do too, so that'll be more experience for me. It's a highway commuter and the paint has taken a pretty good beating, so it'll take some work. Looking forward to the challenge.
 
Nice job Wes, your car came out great.

Now that the car is done, it makes it super easy to see any little thing, especially on black. Those things used to bother me but you learn to live with it on a daily driver. Most people do not look at a car from 1 foot away anyhow.

Next time, I don't think you need to wait as long to put the 845 on. If the car is driven in the meantime then it is good form to do a wash, perhaps an ONR, before applying the lsp. If it is sitting in the garage, then a QD wipedown is in order, because the simple act of raising the garage door can put dust or grit on the car. If any of it gets caught in the buffer pad, then you'll have issues.

I think 3 passes is too much. You want to use just the pressure of the machine, maybe even one hand and the other to help guide it, and just spread the wax over the surface, looking for full coverage, nothing needs to be worked in.

I've always done my 845 applications by hand using whatever is available (microfibre pad, foam applicator, microfibre cloth). Despite what people say, I've never had a problem getting it off.
 
Wes: Big improvement. Regarding your frustration with the defects you are still seeing. I am assuming you were meticulous in washing the car prior to applying the 845 so I will focus on your initial compounding.

Based on the pics, your car was riddled with defects. 6 hours is a very small amount of time in compounding to get perfection for the level of defects you started off with. Couple this with my experience with your paint (it is hard) and I would guess that the defects you are seeing now that the vehicle is in full sunlight were there after your compounding session but you didn't have the proper light source to show/see the defects.
 
I dunno, Wes said it took him 1 hour to apply the wax. That is way too long, even if doing it by hand.

using a pc, you can probably put 845 on in 15-20 minutes tops.
 
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You did an awesome job on this correction! Congrats! I notice alittle staining on the trim in this pic. I had some bad staining when using the MF system. I used this to get it off:

Duragloss Wax Eraser (WE) #481

Great job on the car!
 
My guess is the finishing wax has a bunch of fillers and oils in it that the wash and/or the cleaners in 845 cleaned off.

Still its a massive improvement and a very successful first correction IMO.
 
I tried 845 before and will never use it again. I have no desire to use a wax that you have to be "picky" with when it comes to application. I like to use LSP's that are more forgiving, even if you use too much. Not to say 845 doesn't perform GREAT, it's just the application that I don't like.

I don't even know how to respond to that, I find 845 to be one of the easiest to apply LSP's, it usually just melts into the paint. What kind of problems did you have?
 
Great job on your CTS-V Wes. It can be intimidating but once you get the hang of it polishing becomes second nature. Where in Ontario are you located?
 
Looks great. Especially for a first timer. That is why I often recommend the Megs DA MF system for newbies. It is really easy to get good results without much experience. When I learned, DAT products were all that was out there. I had a tough time figuring out how long to work the product. It took me several times to get it down. I was amazed the first time I used SMAT products. Then THe DA MF stuff came out. Wish it had been available when I started.
 
I don't even know how to respond to that, I find 845 to be one of the easiest to apply LSP's, it usually just melts into the paint. What kind of problems did you have?

I agree about it being easy. I'm a total newb and found 845 so easy to apply and remove that I can't imagine anything easier. I did put it over BFWD and maybe that helped.
 
My guess is the finishing wax has a bunch of fillers and oils in it that the wash and/or the cleaners in 845 cleaned off.

Still its a massive improvement and a very successful first correction IMO.

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I think you did a wonderful job especially considering you were dealing with tough paint and the toughest color. The hack that left you that mess to deal with sure didn't do you any favors either. Well done, stand proud :dblthumb2:
 
Don't doubt yourself, you did an excellent.:xyxthumbs:


Thanks for the beading pics of the finishing wax too.
 
Wes you did a great job on your car. You should feel good about it. Some time you should stop by the local detailer and show him what you paid him to do should look like.
 
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