My new car: 2002 Cadillac DTS

Bill D said:
If I were in the market for another Caddy it would have to be a classic. Probably early ‘60s but if budget allows, anything from the ‘50s.
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Now your talking!

-57 Eldo Brougham
-The black and silver one Eldo posted
-67 Eldo
-73 Eldo
-65 Coupe D'Ville convertable


Brand new CTS-V, can't pass on 640 hp, I'm a gearhead!

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I don’t think it’s ridiculous to have a hub cap in your living room at all! Often after driving I used to take them off and wash them like plates in my utility sink. I do have an issue with one of mine though. It’s stuck on the wheel because it was centered incorrectly. My plastic hub cap keys can’t get it off and even if I have to have someone destroy the nut to get the hubcap off it’s okay because I have replacement metal ones. I just haven’t gone down to a tire and wheel place to see if someone can get it off yet.
 
They made exactly 400 1957 Eldorado Broughams*
 
Eldorado2k said:
You’re crazy if you think you’re even going to find 1 of those. They only made like 200 or so. Lol.
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I'm not looking, just giving you my list of Caddy's I really like but I'd get one if I won the lotto because IMO you talking about the best of the best there!

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Klasse Act said:
I'm not looking, just giving you my list of Caddy's I really like but I'd get one if I won the lotto because IMO you talking about the best of the best there!

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Check out this Cadillac. This is some of that Standard of the World stuff for real.

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Reminds me of the cars I saw at the Amelia Island Concours
 
Eldorado2k said:
What do you think of them doing that on a 2002? Kinda cheap? The piano black glossy pillars on my 97’ Seville are completely different. They’re actual solid pillars, I don’t think you’d be able to just stick something over them without it looking weird because they’re thick and have rounded edges.
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At first I was thinking that GM doesn't do that at all, that it's an Asian car thing, then I started thinking about all those 80's X-bodies that I recall had something like that wrap, but I figured by 2002 they would have changed it...then you tell me that prior to that they were making the glossy pillars, so it doesn't make a lot of sense except in that period and up until the bankruptcy, they were making everything really cheap.
 
Bill D said:
Reminds me of the cars I saw at the Amelia Island Concours
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Check this 1 out, Bill. I showed this to Klasse Act the other day. This is 1 of my favorite cars I’ve ever seen anyone make a video on.

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Wow! No orange peel at all! Something like that would win its class at Amelia. Stunning!
 
Bill D said:
I hope these photos went through. This is my 1989 Coupe de Ville
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Man, I love your garage, Bill! You said you took the covers off for the photo...what do you have under the car? Or does that fold up over the car?
 
Setec Astronomy said:
At first I was thinking that GM doesn't do that at all, that it's an Asian car thing, then I started thinking about all those 80's X-bodies that I recall had something like that wrap, but I figured by 2002 they would have changed it...then you tell me that prior to that they were making the glossy pillars, so it doesn't make a lot of sense except in that period and up until the bankruptcy, they were making everything really cheap.
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I’m thinking it was more of a weight trimming thing as opposed to a cheap thing. Because the interior and overall fit & finish doesn’t look or feel cheap on this car. The 1998-2004 Seville STS/SLS were really nice cars for what you got. I mean good luck finding 1 worth buying today because so many have been trashed and then of course there’s the whole Northstar engine thing that people always moan about, but when they were new and well taken care of Cadillac was making quality automobiles in 2002.
That 80’s reputation is hard to shake. Lol.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Man, I love your garage, Bill! You said you took the covers off for the photo...what do you have under the car? Or does that fold up over the car?
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Hi Setec! Thanks very much. I just meant I had to take the covers off the car. One of the covers is a CarJacket. The car is driven over it and it zips closed around the car once you cover the car with a regular car cover. I just use the covers to avoid dust in the garage these days. I actually leave the Audi uncovered.
 
Eldorado2k said:
I’m thinking it was more of a weight trimming thing as opposed to a cheap thing. Because the interior and overall fit & finish doesn’t look or feel cheap on this car. The 1998-2004 Seville STS/SLS were really nice cars for what you got. I mean good luck finding 1 worth buying today because so many have been trashed and then of course there’s the whole Northstar engine thing that people always moan about, but when they were new and well taken care of Cadillac was making quality automobiles in 2002.
That 80’s reputation is hard to shake. Lol.
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Don't think I'm GM bashing, because I'm not...I just think the quality of the interior materials, in particular, declined rather steeply from the 80's to the 2000's, as well as the use of the corporate parts bin. Cadillac went through that identity crisis in the 90's that Buick went through in the 80's, where they realized their average customer was getting really old and because the kids weren't buying Chevy's (Toyota's and Honda's and Nissan's instead), they weren't staying with the brand and coming up the ranks to fill in. That's why you saw all the T-Type Buicks in the 80's when Lloyd Reuss was there and the STS version of the Seville in the 90's (for that matter the um...what was the "sporty" version Olds had of the 98?).

Then Caddy took the turn you didn't like in 2003 with the CTS to court the BMW and Mercedes buyers...Buick had retreated and by that time the only Buick sedan buyer was an old lady.
 
I’m actually a fan of the Buick Cascada. Not just for old people any more!
 
Bill D said:
Hi Setec! Thanks very much. I just meant I had to take the covers off the car. One of the covers is a CarJacket. The car is driven over it and it zips closed around the car once you cover the car with a regular car cover. I just use the covers to avoid dust in the garage these days. I actually leave the Audi uncovered.
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I was unfamiliar with that type of cover. Do you drive the Audi? I still remember that pic from when you lived up here with all your products stacked up alongside it in the driveway. It's funny seeing that Accord(?) in the background...I think Spilchy got a coupe in that same color shortly before he disappeared from the forum.
 
I drive the Accord a whole lot more than the Audi. I always wondered what happened to Spilchy
 
Bill D said:
I’m actually a fan of the Buick Cascada. Not just for old people any more!
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GM certainly changed after the bankruptcy. I was in a Buick showroom a few months ago and they had that Cascada (I think) and a wagon that the salesman said were made by Opel (to which I responded "but GM sold Opel" and he said that they have an agreement to still make cars for them), anyway...I think the wagon was made in Germany, the Cascada in Czechoslovakia, and (this was a Buick/GMC dealer, so not sure if these were all Buicks or some GMC), they had SUV's made in US, one in Mexico, and one in China...and I said I knew that Buicks were very popular in China, but I didn't know they were sending them here, and he said they just started. Now that I'm thinking about it, they might have had an SUV from Korea, also (Daewoo plant).
 
Wow, never knew they built cars in Czechoslovakia
 
Bill D said:
Wow, never knew they built cars in Czechoslovakia
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Well, I think that's an Opel plant, Porsche was making their lower-end cars in Poland, IIRC. But anyway, Buick is a good ol' made in USA brand, as Eldo said about Caddy.

Oh, PS, I was surprised to see a wagon in a Buick showroom, seeing as we hate wagons in the US (as evidenced by the failure of the CTS wagon--see Eldo, we're still talking about CADILLACS), even though there is a bit of a resurgence of them here, so I asked the salesman how they were selling, and he said that they hadn't sold ONE--and that Buick was giving them no marketing support on it.
 
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