My New DD 2016 Audi S4!!!

[lensch09]

Beast of a car.

Thanks man.

Supercharger belt, under-drive pulley, and handheld switcher show up tonight. I'm also picking up my bumpers from the body shop this evening. More pictures tonight/tomorrow.

Stay Tuned!!!

-

Dan Lensch

 

[lensch09]

Bumpers are done. Should be going back on the car tonight.... hopefully

More pictures coming tonight/tomorrow of the pulley upgrade!

-DL

 

[Hokie335i]

Any plans to do a dual pulley setup?

 

[lensch09]

Any plans to do a dual pulley setup?

Keep watching... spent some time wrenching tonight. Dual pulley? Not yet. But maybe soon?

-Dan Lensch

 

[lensch09]

Install started tonight. Freshly painted rear bumper cover due to a small, barely noticeable battle scar received during a Hawkeye football tailgate in the snow late last year (I shoulda brought my truck). Fresh Deval CF splitter from Mops@SupremePowerParts as well (thanks buddy!).

Installed. I can't stress how important it is to take your time installing this thing. Even the stock valance is a pain in the ass to remove because the tabs are so stubborn. However, this CF piece is even more difficult to put back in because IT DOES NOT FLEX. The last tabs of of each side MUST GO IN FIRST, NO EXCEPTIONS. Work slowly, remembering that the bumper will flex more than the CF valence, continue to take your time, and eventually, you'll get it.

Looks Awesome.

Looks real sharp. Something about the sun today and the way the fresh spring grass really brought out the pearl in the Daytona Grey. Maybe I just don't remember how gorgeous this color is under warm sun?

Perspective picture in my parents garage (where all of my tools still are even after returning from Germany). Still have the winter wheels on too. Deciding whether or not to change that tomorrow. Coin flip it overnight and see what mood I wake up in tomorrow.

STAY TUNED!!!

-Dan Lensch

 

[lensch09]

AWE underdrive Pulley, AWE pulley-puller tool, OEM undersized belt (I assume it's undersized), GIAC handheld program-switcher, GIAC software code, a bunch of blow-pops, and my new BD toaster oven (required for the install) showed up! Big thanks to Todd @ AWE and Sean Doyle at TAG Motorsports. Great guys!

Can't believe AWE actually patterned the blow-pop into the foam. These guys are hilarious, and EVERYTHING (including the packaging) is TOP NOTCH!!!

As many of you know, our TVS1320 blowers utilize an interference/press fit for the pulley. Here's a picture "bakin" the AWE pulley in my new toaster oven (yes, I did buy it just for this). AWE recommends 375 F at 1 hour for the correct thermal expansion to take place. At 400 F, the coating (I'm guessing powder or E-coat) can be compromised. Again, take your time, enjoy the labor of love, wait for the pulley to heat correctly and thoroughly, and generally accept that your car is gonna have more power real soon...

The B8.5 doesn't have long bolts installed underneath the core support (at least I didn't care to look more than a few minutes for them). Regardless, AWE is kind enough to include long bolts in the kit so that you can remove the 16mm core support to frame-rail bolts, re-install the new AWE-supplied long bolts, and slide out the core support. THANK YOU (I was looking in my bolt bucket for long bolts before I realized AWE included them)!

B8.5s (and maybe the B8) use a new style of washer line connector. As it turns out, once disconnecting the headlight washers, the system can self-contain/close-loop the res. without draining all of the contents on the floor, all without using a CAP!!! This is awesome. After pulling core supports on Audis for the last 13 years, I can finally say that on this trip, I only lost about .2L of washer fluid on the floor this time while I "figured it out." Awesome....

A picture of the stock supercharger belt routing (could come in handy for a few)

Core-support pulled away from the frame

Cap removed from the stock charger pulley and stock belt removed

AWE puller-tool on the stock pulley. Make sure you use AMPLE amounts of anti-sieze on the jam-bolt. JAM_ON!

Stocker pulley removed!!!

Here's a quick shot of what the stock TVS1320 input shaft looks like, naked (oh my!) without any pulley.

AWE pulley installed (and capped) comparo photo with the stocker

I actually installed the pulley twice thinking it wasn't "bottomed out." However, this appears to be normal. Again, AWE pulley installed (and capped) comparo photo with the stocker being held in my hand.

New belt installed (make sure you get the routing correct, not real difficult).

How I left it for the night. I'll re-install the front bumper tomorrow, maybe install the summer wheels/tires, and possibly clay down, then final polish, and then wax/seal the car. Supposedly, there's a car show in the area on Saturday. With 41 F and rain/wintery "mix" in the forecast, I may just leave this thing sitting in the garage the next few days and drive my truck...

Test start, warm up, and a few revs! I'll Vag-Com out the bulb out errors tomorrow. ECS Luft-Tecnik cover is still off of the airbox (audible goodness, and I might actually leave it this way). Listen to that blower sing!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNZgw3hRJdc

Will probably talk to Lichty about possibly doing the GIAC V2 STGII reflash sometime early next week.

STAY TUNED!!!

-Dan Lensch

 

[Shark Politur]

Congratulations, soon 10,000 visitors to your S4 super thread so I decided to visit :wow:
I don't know how much money you have invested in modifications but looking here for something that sounds like HP, horsepower, PS I didn't see.
Does it mean that all of this stuff didn't push your Audi north of 333HP ?
Or your priority is to make car look more carbon, change some engine belts & this is what you call tuning in USA :laughing:
In the end it's your car & you'll live with it, but for me tuning is not only about exterior, tuning it's when all performance changes as well.
This is what I call a real Audi tuning:

You can get 435HP from ABT-Sportline in an instant
Equipment

MTM are known for Audi tuning Audi Tuning by MTM - Performance upgrade, Exhaust systems, Rims, Brakes, Equipment

Others for Audi & much more

SKN Tuning ChipTuning EcoTuning Turbo Kompressor MILLTEK Auspuff Fahrwerk Bremse CHIP & ECO

Oettinger Sportsystems GmbH - Products

KOCH Fahrzeugtechnik | Produkte

Willkommen bei B&B Automobiltechnik - Tuning made in Germany

O.CT Tuning - Shop / Products

Audi Tuning, Spoiler, Spoilerstoßstange, Bodykits, Seitemschweller, Dachflügel, by hipo autotechnik GmbH

PRIOR-DESIGN | Exclusive Aerodynamics & Tuning

? Audi Tuning für R8, RS und S Modelle


I hope people who are interested in serious performance etc. modifications will find above links useful.

P.S. Your Audi S4 looks very beautiful, you have invested a lot of resources (time, nerves, money) into it so now it's high time to start driving it :laughing:

 

[TTQ B4U]

Congratulations, soon 10,000 visitors to your S4 super thread so I decided to visit :wow:
I don't know how much money you have invested in modifications but looking here for something that sounds like HP, horsepower, PS I didn't see.
Does it mean that all of this stuff didn't push your Audi north of 333HP ?
Or your priority is to make car look more carbon, change some engine belts & this is what you call tuning in USA :laughing:
In the end it's your car & you'll live with it, but for me tuning is not only about exterior, tuning it's when all performance changes as well.
This is what I call a real Audi tuning:

You can get 435HP from ABT-Sportline in an instant
Equipment

MTM are known for Audi tuning Audi Tuning by MTM - Performance upgrade, Exhaust systems, Rims, Brakes, Equipment

Others for Audi & much more

SKN Tuning ChipTuning EcoTuning Turbo Kompressor MILLTEK Auspuff Fahrwerk Bremse CHIP & ECO

Oettinger Sportsystems GmbH - Products

KOCH Fahrzeugtechnik | Produkte

Willkommen bei B&B Automobiltechnik - Tuning made in Germany

O.CT Tuning - Shop / Products

Audi Tuning, Spoiler, Spoilerstoßstange, Bodykits, Seitemschweller, Dachflügel, by hipo autotechnik GmbH

PRIOR-DESIGN | Exclusive Aerodynamics & Tuning

? Audi Tuning für R8, RS und S Modelle


I hope people who are interested in serious performance etc. modifications will find above links useful.

P.S. Your Audi S4 looks very beautiful, you have invested a lot of resources (time, nerves, money) into it so now it's high time to start driving it :laughing:

He's going with GAIC software which is one of the main brands out there.

Our cars when properly tuned with GAIC or APR, etc. typically rate between 440-470crank hp. He'll be at the higher end given the pulley he selected (few tenths smaller) than others. Mine came in at 395awhp/365awtq on a dynojet on a fairly warm and humid day in August which is consistent with the above noted crank numbers. That's good for high 11's low 12's at 115-117mph with ease on pump gas. Not bad for a 4,000lb luxury sedan that in reality pushed 4,200lbs with driver. Really depends on track conditions for me as the DSG is snap to launch....literally.

Our cars Fuel System and tunes also support upwards of a 30% E85 blend without leaning out too so we're see far more mid to high 11's now too. I'm currently running that and can feel the gains, especially during warmer weather where I no longer see timing being pulled. I also have the DSG Tune so it's more consistent on the lower end of those numbers and has a lightening fast shift response, even faster than stock.

I have a track day in late April so I'll have some more time slips then. I can say that around town there's not much on the street that will take us off the line and unless someone is willing to push it two between 130-150mph they aren't going to be walking us on the freeway either.

Around town it's a beast with gobs of torque available. Mine will break all four weeks loose under 45mph and rolls out like a train. On the track or street the tail will hang out with ease yet with the Sport Differential the difference is we have 100% control in handling vs just sliding.

Cliffs: Spend $3,000 USD and get an AWD Luxury Sedan that can hold it's own and then some with most anything under $100k.

 

[lensch09]

Well, got the front bumper cover/grill all prepped up and ready for install.

Right around this point in the day, I figured it was high-time for a bit of lunch... Some Iowa pork shoulder steaks, marinated for about 12 hours... Good stuff. Man-meal...

Got the front end slapped back together, and then threw on the summer wheels. Wiped down the car with Optimum Gloss Enhancer/ID cut 1:3 water. I love this particular Optimum product!

I drove out to one of my favorite photo spots, only to find out the garage wasn't empty (oh well). I am driving the car easy with the underdrive pulley right now due to the stock tune. I hope to get out to Lichty Auto for the GIAC reflash sometime early next week if he has availability. He's enjoying some family time in Florida right now (good for him). Reflash and the other supporting mods should put the car up in the high 400s to the crank.

Will try to get some more video once I'm re-flashed.

STAY TUNED!!!

-

Dan Lensch

 

[Shark Politur]

pdqgp,

interesting read, I havn't know of GIAC or DSG but one crazy guy that has APR StageI on his Seat Leon (car made to hate) for about 2Y says he doesn't understand why suddenly fuel consumption skyrocketed without control, he is totally pissed off about he did it then (he got other motor oil, coolant problems etc. because of it but he is affraid to admit he is an asshole)
Another guy who sold his 997 Porsche Turbo few months ago & now rides new Ferrari 458 Spider or something V8 from Ferrari, couldn't explain what APR made better for him, he simply said: Marc, I am selling my Porsche if you know the people also state it got APR, he didn't really knew if it's good or bad selling point.
In general people who own rather good cars here think APR is only good for the poor, small engines cars that want to jump on the street & make that other guy with something small to look after them how they press the gas pedal when light changes from orange to green, in short APR is not for serious people & their high end sport cars.
I think the same that any performance increases are only good for big engines, 3L Audi in my opinion is too small to handle 470HP it will ping & knock the engine, wear it in an instant plus fuel & oil consumption will be uncotrolable, it will make troubles for sure after very short time, just my opinion.
Tuning for Audi I understand only starting from RS4 or V8 S6 4.0L engine & RS6 I mean all RS with bigger engines, wouldn't for example recomment to go ABT-Sportline on RS3 Audi 2.5L engine from already hardly breathing 367 horses into 430HP, it's crazy, such small baby engines die faster than a falling star.
Just my opinion about small motor tuning & the most crazy thing I see is that people who upgrade their performance...in the end treat their cars like before upgrading, they never ever go over 60-70mph & don't use this power at all, for them it's the: My car is custom tuned to this & that, I got this & that installed, they do it to get respect from others who got even smaller 1-2L engines. Isn't it crazy :laughing:
People who own big, luxury, fast sport cars from the factory are less interested in tuning, they simply press the gas pedal & enjoy it for free.

 

[Hokie335i]

I think you've sold me on those wheels! I'm gonna have to get a set for my new S4.

 

[TTQ B4U]

pdqgp,

I think the same that any performance increases are only good for big engines, 3L Audi in my opinion is too small to handle 470HP it will ping & knock the engine, wear it in an instant plus fuel & oil consumption will be uncotrolable, it will make troubles for sure after very short time, just my opinion.

Nope. The 3.0 is a solid motor. No knocks or pings when tuned properly and APR and GAIC do a great job. I data log all my vehicles and know exactly what they are doing. The two tuners have been modding Audi's for quite some time with no issues. The stock fuel system delivers more than enough fuel and the blower isn't in danger of being overspun as it was built to handle more boost. No opinion here but rather facts. It is however known that the stock 6spd clutch does have trouble handling the added power and will eventually slip thus warranting an upgrade.

The platform is now 8yrs old and there have been no known issues due to the tunes. The newer 501 Series DSG is solid too. It is stronger than the original 2010-2012 units but the main issues they had were related to the mechtronics unit and the way Audi Engineered it as it's submerged in oil. The newer ones are designed better and aren't experiencing any of those related issues. Just noting this so you're aware.

MPG's are about the same. They aren't affected in normal driving, only when you put your foot in it and the system calls for more gas. Oil consumption is nil too. I have 16k on my ODO and haven't burned any measurable amount of oil. Although any forced induction engine may/will burn just a bit. That said, there's been no need for me to install a catch can.

People who own big, luxury, fast sport cars from the factory are less interested in tuning, they simply press the gas pedal & enjoy it for free.

Not free really. I almost bought an S6 and it's certainly a nice car but dollar for dollar I would have spent $15k USD more and gotten a 1yr older car with more miles. I opted not to for many reasons but in terms of performance, I will hang/beat them stock. Although not a day goes by that I don't waffle on that choice because a simple $1,200 Stage 1 tune on the TTV8 will put an S6 in the low to mid 11's

Cliffs: 3.0T V6 with a Stage 2 & Corresponding DSG Tune > the TT4.0 V8 in stock form with no issues and is solid with over 8yrs of aftermarket support behind this platform.

 

[Shark Politur]

Enjoy your explanations, APR must pay you royalties :laughing:
Still fact is that stock V6 (all V6 engines no matter the automaker) wear much faster & worse than V8 or V12, I wonder what is a precize fuel consumption & oil usage (I mean how many km or miles when you have to add 1L or quart of engine oil).
The horsepower like close to 470 for V6 is a lot of engine wear, friction not depending on oil viscosity, I see S4 stock goes on 5W30 oil with 333HP & what is recommended oil for 470HP then.
Example E63 AMG with big 5.5L V8 squeezes 577HP & we speak here almost about double engine size compared to Audi S4 & 8 cylinders, or E550 4.7L V8 peaks at 402HP.
I think 3L V6 engine or ones from BMW M3 or M4 that go to 445HP this is what makes such cars die faster than V8 bigger engine cars. So all in all, S4 333 horses is maximum what can be done by German engineers to make this car to enjoy, that's why ABT-Sportline stop at 435PS for this car & this is the maximum but even then engine will wear faster. No matter what you do, V6 is the minimum for good performance tuning but only if engine is over 3L like Porsche or nice & cute Nissan Z where even NISMO stops at 350HP, Novidem can add another 60 HP or Stillen another 100HP & here it's acceptable, for Audi S4 it's not only if one doesn't want to lose control of the engine parts, oil & gas consumption & finish the car as fast as 470 horses it gives :laughing:

NOVIDEM AG - Nissan 370Z Kompressor Tuning - Leistungsteigerung bis 410 PS, 420 Nm

Engine & Co. | Nissan 370Z | CTD-Germany - Nissan Professional Tuning Shop

I am lately a big fan of Z, GT-R & Lexus still learning more about them (one guy who owned few years ago GT-R said when front was removed there was so much corrosion & underbody rust he was shocked...but this is completely another story :laughing: maybe one day more about it in another post)

Thanks again, I really like your professional opinion & experience you provide, it makes a lot of sense but not for me. 3L is 3L no matter what you'll do with it, if I would have such a nice & beautiful car like Audi S8 or R8 I would only tune it in Germany :laughing:

 

[TTQ B4U]

Enjoy your explanations, APR must pay you royalties :laughing:
Still fact is that stock V6 (all V6 engines no matter the automaker) wear much faster & worse than V8 or V12, I wonder what is a precize fuel consumption & oil usage (I mean how many km or miles when you have to add 1L or quart of engine oil).

16k modified miles and never had to add oil.

The horsepower like close to 470 for V6 is a lot of engine wear, friction not depending on oil viscosity, I see S4 stock goes on 5W30 oil with 333HP & what is recommended oil for 470HP then.

There's no change in oil. I run full synthetic and have in most all of my previous cars too. Most were forced induction.

Thanks again, I really like your professional opinion & experience you provide, it makes a lot of sense but not for me. 3L is 3L no matter what you'll do with it, if I would have such a nice & beautiful car like Audi S8 or R8 I would only tune it in Germany :laughing:

Anytime. Stateside we have no problem with the big boys here thing the S or R Series. Plenty of history and they do a great job.

 

[lensch09]

First Drive after reflash

https://youtu.be/6AViuRJCQjI

First few pulls!

https://youtu.be/dyuWVdYlSCg

Wound up getting a DTC on the drive home during some more adaptation. More on that later.

STAY TUNED!!!

-

Dan Lensch

 

[Mp0wer]

Wound up getting a DTC on the drive home during some more adaptation. More on that later.

What is a DTC ?

 

[lensch09]

What is a DTC ?

Diagnostic Trouble Code

At a rooftop hang over the weekend.... Cold weather, but, getting better!

Working on the FLASH

Handheld Flash Loader!

Wound up throwing a DTC/CEL on the way home...

Plugged in Vag-Com and pulled codes.

As it turns out, I was throwing a code for the fuel metering unit. According to the read-out, it was an intermittent reading and the freeze frame stated that the occurrence was only once.

Car never hit limp mode, and still seemed to drive okay. I emailed John Voss @ AWE today and got his feedback on the DTC. He had stated that 1 out of 12 cars that they FLASH will reset "soft settings" that are typically learned by the ECU overtime. I drove the car to work today, around at lunch, and back and forth to the bank (3+ key cycles), and the light still hasn't come back on. Car definitely moves more, now.

STAY TUNED!!!

-

Dan Lensch

 

[lensch09]

Well, rule 22.... Celebrated my 31st birthday with the old lady (GF). This one's a good one! Yup, I look blitzed (because I was).

Finally got a chance to give a decent hand wash this spring.

I used the following:

Wheels, exhaust tips, and fender liners:
Meguirars APC cut 4 piece water (wheels were previously coated with Mckees 37 wheel glaze)
Brushed down with a variety of MF wireless brushes. Tires, hubs, calipers, exhaust tips, and inner fenders were scrubbed
Wheels then re-washed using Wolfgang Auto-Bathe and finger-foams

Exterior:
Gilmour 95QGFMR Foam Gun loaded with Wolfgang Auto-Bathe (pre-soak)
Bugs carefully removed from the Xpel Ultimate with a Sonax 427141 bug sponge (love this thing)
Rinse...
Two bucket with grit guards, Wolfgang Auto-Bathe, Chemical Guys Chenille MF mitt
Rinse down
Some type of massive MF-waffle drying towel (don't remember which one but it's green with black edges, bought it from AG)
Leaf Blower to knock the excess out of the wheels/mirrors/trim
Meguiars MGG-7516 on the tires
Stoner Trim-Shine on the fender liners/under body fisible panels
Stoner Invisible Glass on the windows
Optimum Gloss-Enhancer and Instant Detailer on the full body (and exhaust tips + wheels). Optimum was cut to the recommended amount with soft-water
Of course, good, clean MF towels were used on the WHOLE thing.

Also, now repping the AZ sticker. I've been a member for a LONG time (one of the first 1,000). Good peeps, good reads, good vibes.

Car honestly needs a DEEP spring-cleaning (interior/engine-bay/clay/light-polish/etc). However, don't have time to do it this weekend. I'm flying to Germany for work on Saturday and won't be back for 5-7 days (we'll see how things go). Updates may be a bit slow until I get back...

STAY TUNED

-

Dan Lensch

 

[Sicoupe]

Looking sweet Dan!

 

[derek0609]

Damn fine car and upgrades!