My next polisher question

[Foam cannon]

I've become proficient with my p.c. What should my next step be? Thanks in advance.

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[VISITOR]

flex 3401 or G15/21 and keep the PC with a smaller pad set-up...

 

[VISITOR]

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[Foam cannon]

I've been looking at the boss and the rupes 21. Is the mark ll worth the extra money?

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[chet31]

flex 3401 or G15/21 and keep the PC with a smaller pad set-up...

Agree w/ this, Flex halves the time of polishing vs a PC (my first machine), at least. PC is underpowered, but a wonderful machine with 3" pads.

 

[FUNX650]

I've become proficient with my p.c.

What should my next step be?

I've been looking at the boss
and the rupes 21.

Being that you are now PC-proficient;
and, since the Boss and Rupes are
also orbital polishers;

then, IMO:

A Rotary (circular) polisher should be
ideal for your "next step": Especially
ideal in the sense of becoming more
proficient in time-management of
future detailing/correction jobs.

Oh yeah, almost forgot:
Way less vibration from a Rotary:
Your Body Will Thank You.


Note:
Even when you do become proficient
with a Rotary...don't toss the PC!

That is what you'll use to:
"change the action of the tool for
the last machine polishing step".
~Mike Phillips
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-101/43684-hologram-free-rotary-buffer.html



Bob

 

[VISITOR]

I've been looking at the boss and the rupes 21. Is the mark ll worth the extra money?

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the G15/21 (they also have side port to change brushes which is a nice little touch) can do everything the rupes can. the BOSS G15/21 enables you to use both 5" and 6" backing plates (comes with washer mod if you desire to use it). also, the GG DA's ALL come with a Lifetime Warranty and no nonsense responsive customer service as well. buy it once and have no worries, GG will take care of you and have your back. with the BOSS creams and pads you have flexibility across the board as they don't limit you to only using this or that pad with any particular cream. i have trust in them (can't say that for everyone) and they will do whatever it takes to make you happy and a customer for the long term. there are some companies out there are quick to take your money but do little to nothing (and procrastinate) to respond if you ever have a problem. expect big/exciting things from them in the future!

"we're just getting started, we got are foot on the gas and you guys need to stay tune" - jeff brown

 

[TTQ B4U]

Like you I outgrew the PC and standard buffers. I have since moved to a Flex 3401 and regret not doing so sooner. 1/3 to 1/2 the time involved now and it doesn't stop for anything. Constant rotation with no PIA slowing down or stalling on any surface. Takes a little more muscle to use but honestly not much.

 

[Just02896]

Flex.

 

[Foam cannon]

Like you I outgrew the PC and standard buffers. I have since moved to a Flex 3401 and regret not doing so sooner. 1/3 to 1/2 the time involved now and it doesn't stop for anything. Constant rotation with no PIA slowing down or stalling on any surface. Takes a little more muscle to use but honestly not much.

Was it pretty easy to get the hang of once you got your hands on it? I guess that would be my biggest concern.

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[dlc95]

Being that you are now PC-proficient;
and, since the Boss and Rupes are
also orbital polishers;

then, IMO:

A Rotary (circular) polisher should be
ideal for your "next step": Especially
ideal in the sense of becoming more
proficient in time-management of
future detailing/correction jobs.

Oh yeah, almost forgot:
Way less vibration from a Rotary:
Your Body Will Thank You.


Note:
Even when you do become proficient
with a Rotary...don't toss the PC!

That is what you'll use to:
"change the action of the tool for
the last machine polishing step".
~Mike Phillips
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-101/43684-hologram-free-rotary-buffer.html



Bob

This.

 

[WRAPT C5Z06]

How often do you polish cars? If you're a weekend warrior, the GG 6" with an LC MF cutting pad and quality compound can handle 95% plus duties. I recently used the GG 6" with an LC MF cutting pad and Jescar compound and was able to remove sirls and some RIDS on hard corvette paint in a relatively short amount of time. I will always reach for the GG 6" first because it's versatile and works with the PROPER pads and polishes. There may be times when the paint is SUPER hard and this polisher will work to slow, but I see that as being rare. The Flex 3401 used to work MUCH faster than an 8mm random orbital, but with new technology, it's not THAT much of an upgrade and isn't the most comfortable to use.

 

[BudgetPlan1]

In the same boat; $650 of AG Gift Certificates waiting for a decision...LHR 15 Mk II or G15? Rupes or Griots? BOSS or Bigfoot?

Every time I think I've decided I realize I haven't. So I continue of with GG6...

 

[WRAPT C5Z06]

In the same boat; $650 of AG Gift Certificates waiting for a decision...LHR 15 Mk II or G15? Rupes or Griots? BOSS or Bigfoot?

Every time I think I've decided I realize I haven't. So I continue of with GG6...

WITHOUT A DOUBT, Mark II

 

[Zubair]

The Flex 3401 used to work MUCH faster than an 8mm random orbital, but with new technology, it's not THAT much of an upgrade and isn't the most comfortable to use.

The most accurate and honest response I have read on this forum in a really long time.

 

[WRAPT C5Z06]

The most accurate and honest response I have read on this forum in a really long time.

Thanks!:xyxthumbs:

 

[rlmccarty2000]

Buy the Rupes 15. Powerful. Smaller than the Rupes 21 which makes it easier to work on vertical panels. Great customer support. Factory in the USA.

 

[Mike Moore]

My go-to machine is a Rupes 21 with a 5" backing plate.
I find it safer and much easier to use than the Flex 3401.
I can do things with it that are unimaginable with a PC.

Here is a great video that explains machine differences.

I have a collection of machines. Rupes, Flex etc. Rotary, DA etc.
I still reach for the Rupes 21 - 9 times out of 10 to Git Er Done.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...mp4-12c-miracle-detailing-cquartz-finest.html

 

[VISITOR]

Was it pretty easy to get the hang of once you got your hands on it? I guess that would be my biggest concern.

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the flex learning curve isn't that hard, just keep the pad flat on the panel and you'll be fine. if stalling is an annoyance to you then the flex is the way to go since it's gear driven and will not stop until you want it to. you can also run 4"-6.5" pads with the appropriate backing plates as well...

do you do this as a business on the side or is it for personal use?

 

[DaveT435]

A little more information on exactly what you plan on doing with the machine would be helpful. I always love it when people jump I with recommendations without any info lol, and it quickly becomes a Flex vs Long throw thing. Not knocking anyone. Flex or long stroke is the obvious next step, and we all have a preference. If he plans on doing a lot of cars as fast as possible then Bob has a valid recommendation with a rotary. With that said...what are you going to be using the machine for? A couple cars a month, do you want to try and be able to knock out a couple cars in a weekend? Is this a hobby that you enjoy and find relaxing and just go at a leisurely pace or you just like the outcome and want to get through it as quickly as possible? A hobby that could turn into a second income or primary income?