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Klasse Act said:
I'm enjoying the live stream but that Sam guy is such a suck up with that mustache, it just doesn't work, my God is it horrible

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i can deal with mustaches since it's movember but i'd just appreciate it if they answered more of the legit questions.
 
Klasse Act said:
Did you change out the rinse water? Also did you make up new solution for the 2nd wash?

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Yes I changed the rinse water after the first wash but I reused the Duragloss solution.
 
Klasse Act said:
I'm enjoying the live stream but that Sam guy is such a suck up with that mustache, it just doesn't work, my God is it horrible
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I don't get the mustaches on either of them, or that hairdo on Mr. Griot, they look like they are made up for a skit from that Fridays show that was on ABC...um...a long, long time ago.

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Full disclosure: Decades ago a girl I had the hots for said she liked beards, so I grew one and kept it for a year (didn't help with the girl), then I shaved and just left the mustache for a few more years, until I realized what a horse's ass I looked like and shaved it off. I guess the Griot's guys are in the phase where they haven't realized yet how silly they look. Apologies to anyone who does look good in mustache and/or beard.
 
So after doing the two bucket rinseless wash it sure looked like a lot of dirt in my rinse water. I'd have to say it would be better to keep that dirt from being introduced into the wash media.
I know that same dirt would react differently in the wash media vs plain water but maybe better to keep the dirt out of the wash media.
Maybe the two bucket wash isn't dead.
 
BLM said:
So after doing the two bucket rinseless wash it sure looked like a lot of dirt in my rinse water. I'd have to say it would be better to keep that dirt from being introduced into the wash media.
I know that same dirt would react differently in the wash media vs plain water but maybe better to keep the dirt out of the wash media.
Maybe the two bucket wash isn't dead.
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I've always done a two bucket rinseless wash, it just didn't make sense to me any other way, after being introduced to the 2BM for conventional wash.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Full disclosure: Decades ago a girl I had the hots for said she liked beards, so I grew one and kept it for a year (didn't help with the girl), then I shaved and just left the mustache for a few more years, until I realized what a horse's ass I looked like and shaved it off. I guess the Griot's guys are in the phase where they haven't realized yet how silly they look. Apologies to anyone who does look good in mustache and/or beard.
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Today's beards are the equivalent of the Mullet of the 80s or the Tatoos of the 2000s.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
I've always done a two bucket rinseless wash, it just didn't make sense to me any other way, after being introduced to the 2BM for conventional wash.
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Ha, we've had some discussion here about the rinse bucket, I have always put about 1/4 strength, lately more like half strength rinseless solution in the rinse bucket, to keep from diluting the wash too much, while Klasse uses plain water--here's something I got from the Clean Garage website about Gyeon Eco Wash, not sure if this is Clean Garage or Gyeon guidance:

PRO TIP
For the rinseless wash method, rather than using multiple microfiber towels, you also have the option of utilizing a traditional wash mitt, in which case we would suggest the Q²M Wash Pad. Make sure to have a secondary rinse bucket containing a small amount of ECOWash with a grit guard to ensure a clean mitt between each panel.
 
I like to put a capful or roughly a 1/4oz of solution in my wash bucket if I'm doing a two bucket rinseless like Feynlab.
 
Gridlink said:
I like to put a capful or roughly a 1/4oz of solution in my wash bucket if I'm doing a two bucket rinseless like Feynlab.
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1/4 Oz of what solution in the wash bucket?

I could see making the rinse bucket 1/4 strength rinseless but not to keep the full strength wash bucket from getting diluted but to better control the dirt in the bucket. I use a sponge so I pretty much squeeze out 95% of the rinse water from the sponge before
putting the sponge back in the wash bucket.
 
BLM said:
1/4 Oz of what solution in the wash bucket?

I could see making the rinse bucket 1/4 strength rinseless but not to keep the full strength wash bucket from getting diluted but to better control the dirt in the bucket. I use a sponge so I pretty much squeeze out 95% of the rinse water from the sponge before
putting the sponge back in the wash bucket.
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I only do this with Feynlab since all the others I use, ADS Hero or Absolute, are one bucket washes (though with an more dirty car using a two bucket method would work too). It's certainly not necessary but if it helps draw some of the dirt in the rinse bucket to the bottom I figure why not. It certainly cant hurt anything since I also squeeze as much water as possible out of the sponge before saturating it in the wash bucket.
 
I assume you meant 1/4 Oz in the rinse bucket?
 
BLM said:
I could see making the rinse bucket 1/4 strength rinseless but not to keep the full strength wash bucket from getting diluted but to better control the dirt in the bucket.
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I know you've posted about this, but having RW in the rinse bucket doesn't magically make the water not dirty, it gets plenty dirty. I think some people have been bamboozled by that video that Optimum put up with the "Tennessee Mud" dropping to the bottom of the beaker...I don't know what that stuff was but it certainly wasn't the stuff I get on my car.

BLM said:
I use a sponge so I pretty much squeeze out 95% of the rinse water from the sponge before
putting the sponge back in the wash bucket.
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It's funny you (and Gridlink) mention that, I haven't thought about that in a long time...of course that was practice back in the conventional wash, single bucket days, but once I started using the 2BM 20 years ago, I don't do that, I go to the rinse bucket before squeezing out. And it's certainly not something I do during a rinseless wash, because originally that was a winter wash for me, and I was trying to minimize any water on the driveway that could freeze later.
 
I guess I have to ask this again...I know Yvan who was maybe the first to hawk ONR on YouTube, was always a single bucket, use it until it was black (multiple vehicles) guy, but he also was running a detailing shop in Montreal (which I presume was salt city).

I don't know how any self-respecting enthusiast could, after coming from conventional 2BM, with a filthy rinse bucket, could go to a single-bucket rinseless and say to themselves "look at all that dirt! I want to put that back on my car!" But maybe if you guys severely wring out your media, the wash bucket doesn't get dirty really--as I said, I don't do that, so the first time I did a single bucket I said, I'm sorry, I have to use a rinse bucket.

I usually use a paint bucket with no grit guard for the wash, and a 3.5 gal rinse bucket with a grit guard and washboard, filled up to the "G" on the washboard, which is about 2 gallons. The wash bucket generally stays very clean, and it's lighter/easier to move around as a smaller bucket. Very rarely, if I have a car that is just dusty, I will use just the wash bucket (which is a 10 qt translucent paint bucket from Home Depot) which has no grit guard. Maybe I started doing this because I am cheap and you need two gallons to get above the grit guard, while I can wash my small car with a half gallon that way (no wheels).

Everybody has their own preferences, and lately I've been using more in the wash bucket and a stronger solution in the rinse bucket because I have accumulated so much rinseless wash, I just remembered the other day I have a bottle of Wolfgang Uber somewhere that my wife used to like to use before I got a huge jug of EcH2O on blowout from AG (this is a recurring theme for me...AG blowout sales) and she decided she liked that better. I don't really like it, although I think I am going to use it this weekend on something.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
I know you've posted about this, but having RW in the rinse bucket doesn't magically make the water not dirty,



It's funny you (and Gridlink) mention that, I haven't thought about that in a long time...of course that was practice back in the conventional wash, single bucket days, but once I started using the 2BM 20 years ago, I don't do that, I go to the rinse bucket before squeezing out. And it's certainly not something I do during a rinseless wash, because originally that was a winter wash for me, and I was trying to minimize any water on the driveway that could freeze later.
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I don't think adding some rinseless to the rinse water would make that water any less dirty. I anticipate it would control the dirt that is deposited into the rinse solution better.

I don't squeeze the rinse solution from the sponge onto the driveway. It gets squeezed back into the rinse bucket.
 
BLM said:
I don't think adding some rinseless to the rinse water would make that water any less dirty. I anticipate it would control the dirt that is deposited into the rinse solution better.

I don't squeeze the rinse solution from the sponge onto the driveway. It gets squeezed back into the rinse bucket.
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I'm all confused, I thought you didn't use a rinse bucket--that you just tried this now. All this "dirt sequestration"...sometimes I think we are just washing with water and are all brainwashed to think we aren't.
 
BLM said:
I don't squeeze the rinse solution from the sponge onto the driveway. It gets squeezed back into the rinse bucket.
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Are you talking about the initial wringing the sponge to your desired level of drippiness or wringing the "used" solution after your passes over the paint?

I must be missing something here

Need more coffee
 
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