Need to restock some sealant---Is there any WOWO sealant with 1 year durability?

fightnews said:
Not really, c2v3 is an actual spray coating. They say 8 months on that. I use it it can be used alone with nothing else
Click to expand...

Have to say that I've been less than impressed with C2V3. Used over CSL last year, and the vehicle's self-cleaning/lack of water spots actually improved after 2 months, likely when the C2V3 wore off.

Personally, the trend in the last 6-8 months to market what were previously complimentary products to coated vehicles (Reload, C2V3 and a cornucopia of SiO2 spray sealants that "can be used on top of a coating or as a stand-alone") is something I've found to be somewhat lacking in delivery of performance with regards to manufacturer claims...and I've got 10 of 'em on the shelf that I've used in a variety of situations.

Considering how streaky some of those can be to apply, I'd prefer something "with a little more beef" to it if I want a spray sealant, hence my affinity for Gyeon CanCoat. For me, it's easier and quicker to apply and provides much more performance to a than a re-marketed 'booster product'.

Was either on this forum or sister site where someone got a solid year outta CanCoat doing nothing more to maintain it than Gyeon Bathe+.
 
I agree with Budget. CanCoat is simple to use and you will get at least 6 months, and up to a year. I wish I had tried it long ago. Car stays cleaner too. If you want a traditional wipe on, haze, wipe off, my favorite is WG. Super easy on and off.
 
BudgetPlan1 said:
Have to say that I've been less than impressed with C2V3. Used over CSL last year, and the vehicle's self-cleaning/lack of water spots actually improved after 2 months, likely when the C2V3 wore off.

Personally, the trend in the last 6-8 months to market what were previously complimentary products to coated vehicles (Reload, C2V3 and a cornucopia of SiO2 spray sealants that "can be used on top of a coating or as a stand-alone") is something I've found to be somewhat lacking in delivery of performance with regards to manufacturer claims...and I've got 10 of 'em on the shelf that I've used in a variety of situations.

Considering how streaky some of those can be to apply, I'd prefer something "with a little more beef" to it if I want a spray sealant, hence my affinity for Gyeon CanCoat. For me, it's easier and quicker to apply and provides much more performance to a than a re-marketed 'booster product'.

Was either on this forum or sister site where someone got a solid year outta CanCoat doing nothing more to maintain it than Gyeon Bathe+.
Click to expand...
When csl first came out the gtech guy told me Not to top csl woth c2v3...at DF they said it was ok to top...beats me who is right

Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
 
funyfarm said:
When csl first came out the gtech guy told me Not to top csl woth c2v3...at DF they said it was ok to top...beats me who is right

Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
Click to expand...

Had a company who released a new product (topper/topcoat type deal) last Winter and I asked best way to apply, they said "A few sprays on a microfiber to apply" which woulda been nice except the product came with a polish-style top, not a sprayer. Next piece of advice was "Let it sit/flash for 5, 10, 15 or 20 minutes, whatever works best". I can appreciate 'quirky' until it becomes inconvenient.

One Gtechniq rep told me the issue was using 2 coats of CSL instead of 1 and then topping with C2V3...consistency is not a hallmark of some.
 
BudgetPlan1 said:
Had a company who released a new product (topper/topcoat type deal) last Winter and I asked best way to apply, they said "A few sprays on a microfiber to apply" which woulda been nice except the product came with a polish-style top, not a sprayer. Next piece of advice was "Let it sit/flash for 5, 10, 15 or 20 minutes, whatever works best". I can appreciate 'quirky' until it becomes inconvenient.

One Gtechniq rep told me the issue was using 2 coats of CSL instead of 1 and then topping with C2V3...consistency is not a hallmark of some.
Click to expand...

Consistency should be Mandatory for a company rep... but I'm just a hack so what do I know

FWIW, I was at least told only one coat of csl is needed..so there's some consistency I guess

Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
 
MarkD51 said:
As for WOWO, and a "Sealant", you can call Collinite #845 Insulator Wax, and #476 Super Doublecoat Wax "Warm Looking Sealants" if it makes you feel better when you sleep. :laughing:

They are supposedly hybrids, and it's probably how they get their very long lasting protection.

#476 claims one year, and I think you'll be pushing it even with this product. But I doubt you'll find much else that will protect as long and as well, short of a Paint Coating, especially for the cash outlay.

I always liked one aspect of #476, and it was after an application, you look at the Can and say that "Gee, it looks like I didn't even use it!".
It is a challenge using up a can of this stuff. If you never tried it, it will impress you on all levels.

Collinite Super DoubleCoat Auto Wax #476
Click to expand...

I really like 476s, however you need to apply it thin-thin-thin. If not, you will be in for a battle to get it off. A can does last for a long time.
 
Hey Tom,
There are tons of options out there that could get you close. Your looking for my favorite type of products. Not a coating but close to it in longevity. There are several hybrid products out there for people like us who don't like to use coatings or have the facilities to properly install the coating the right way. Here are a couple to check out. Some are reasonably priced and some are expensive but you have to be objective and take into consideration the cost of a coating and having the facilities to do a proper install. (Some of these may be difficult to source in the states but you can find reasonable shipping rates from the UK you just have make some phone calls.) I just tossed a bunch of stuff on this list not are all "sealants" some are hybrid waxes, either way you can still apply them with a DA. The one I find most impressive after a little research is the Koch Chemie sealant. Most of these I have heard about on UK forums and just reading or watching UK youtube detailing channels.
Dr. Beasley's Plasma Coat.
Polish Angel - Master Sealant
Angel Wax Enigma
Nippon Shine Fusso Coat (really, really cheap for what you get. It will last a year with good care. You can get this in the states.)
Jay's Wax - Ceramic wax
WaxAddict - Quartz Wax
TAC Systems - Moonlight
Fireball - Fusion
PowerMaxed - Tsunami
Wax Planet - Oblivion, Shield of Dreams V2
WoWo's- Nanocoat, Contact 121
Koch Chemie - 1K Nano Sealant
 
cpdetail said:
has anyone tried the Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant? How is it in comparison to Reload, Sonax polymer Net SHeild and Rupes p808?
Click to expand...

No doubt countless members here have tried Wolfgang Deep Gloss Sealant 3.0.

I've never done any side by side tests with the products you wish to compare to, am a regular Reload user, but cannot tell you how all compares in the longevity department.

I will say though, that this Sealant is one of the most beautiful looking Sealants, and one of the most easiest I've ever used. This stuff is just fun to apply, and to remove. And the looks are absolutely stunning!

The entire Wolfgang line are some really great products that work. If you had to pin me down to only one brand to use on a treasured vehicle, I'd have to pick Wolfgang as my #1 choice.
 
Any thoughts on Griots One-Step?

(Thanks, Allen. ;) )
 
The Guz said:
Tom if you are interested in PBL paint sealant go ahead and PM me your address. I have an unused bottle.
Click to expand...

Just sent you a PM. Thank you very much for offering this....

tom
 
Throw Duragloss 111 in the mix. Using 601 first or mixed with it at 1 part 601 and 4 parts 111 works as well. It’s some sort of bonding pre sealant product that works together to make it a bit stronger longevity.

Would still use that at least 2 times a year. Unfortunately we don’t have the ability to measure true protection even a couple weeks after application. And heck some of these products may not really protect at all

So while beading may diminish there can still be protection there. Waxes are like that a lot of times the superficial beading goes away but the protection still is there according to Dodo juice anyways.

Something applied is likely better than nothing and the only product I have seen and can think of with an actual patent for UV protection is OCW but we all know beading falls off that well before the bottle states so is protection from UV still there ? Who knows.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
No wipe on wipe off works as well as a dedicated sealant you apply, let haze and wipe off. WGDGPS,BF,PL will always work better then spray sealants like Reload,C2V3 etc.
 
That's true about C2V3 I have 5 months since I applied in my car ... 24 hours outdoors, daily driver, and the water repellency and self-cleaning continues as the first day ... 5 months not a few weeks.
 
fightnews said:
Not really, c2v3 is an actual spray coating. They say 8 months on that. I use it it can be used alone with nothing else
Click to expand...

That's true about C2V3 I have 5 months since I applied in my car ... 24 hours outdoors, daily driver, and the water repellency and self-cleaning continues as the first day ... 5 months not a few weeks.
 
The Guz said:
Mckee’s just came out with 10 minute paint sealant and Nick has mentioned it to last up to 6 months.
Click to expand...

Everyone claims 6 months: Reload, C2V3, Wetcoat, etc. If 10 minute paint sealant actually gives 6 months, good. But since it's a product in the same category as Reload, I don't see how it could outpermorm it by 6 times!
 
Calendyr said:
Everyone claims 6 months: Reload, C2V3, Wetcoat, etc. If 10 minute paint sealant actually gives 6 months, good. But since it's a product in the same category as Reload, I don't see how it could outpermorm it by 6 times!
Click to expand...

This is where I get confused, probably due to lack of experience with these SiO2 sprays. 10 Min. Paint Sealant is WOWA, all the others are WOWO. I know this may seem minor but I don’t consider these the same categories. For one, due to the different application method, but I also picture 10 Minute as more sealant based (but SiO2 enhanced) WOWA much like the old Blackfire Liquid Seal or the Wolfgang comparable.

Thoughts that could alleviate my confusion would be appreciated.
 
TMQ said:
Just sent you a PM. Thank you very much for offering this....

tom
Click to expand...

Tom, have you tried the PBL Sealant yet? I have seen some of your results with PA Master Sealant and was wondering if you have thoughts on one vs. the other?
 
Calendyr said:
Everyone claims 6 months: Reload, C2V3, Wetcoat, etc. If 10 minute paint sealant actually gives 6 months, good. But since it's a product in the same category as Reload, I don't see how it could outpermorm it by 6 times!
Click to expand...

The key words on all of these is “up to”.

Even if only lasted a month it still falls within that claim. Of course the environment it is exposed to plays a large factor into the durability of anything.
 
Haven’t tried Rupes or Ultimate.
Really interested in trying Can Coat and McKees 10 minute.
Big fan of PNS and BSD (especially on white).
I’ve used Optiseal and Reload. I like the Sonax more.

I really think these types of sealants are the way to go.
Love the spray and blast (Hydro2, Wet Coat, ...) on wheels.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top