Never Waxing an SUV Roof again

Kind of lazy if you ask me.

How would you go about telling the customer the roof will be coated only and not waxed and at what cost?

I can just imagine the fine print on the business card...

"We don't do roofs... or bumpers!"

You both know we are talking about personal cars right? Do to injuries and many surgeries, I don't do it for money anymore, just my own. Getting up top of my SUV is a pain in the you know what with 50% loss of my leg, disc herniation's and sciatic pain.
 
still necessary to get up there and wash it weekly, so no getting out of using ladder. But generally using a coating would be the wiser choice.
 
Kind of lazy if you ask me.

How would you go about telling the customer the roof will be coated only and not waxed and at what cost?

Ummm, the only customer is me. But, that being said, this actually sounds like a great idea for those that maintain an SUV for money. Since the roof is a large flat panel, and sees a lot of sun (UV), water sitting on it (water spots), etc...As long as you agree that Opticoat provides better protection than wax, also more skill to apply.

But, once it's done - it's done for life. I do like trying different waxes, so this seems like a good way to continue to do that, but eliminate some of the PIA parts. I used to do the whole "process" for every square inch every few months: clay, finishing polish, glaze, seal, and wax (to try a different wax).

Really, the issue is my garage is a 1 car garage and very narrow with a low ceiling. An SUV barely even fits in it, you can hardly open the door. Trying to work in the roof in there is terrible. In order to work on one side, you have to pull in so the other side is literally 1" from the wall. The, to do the passenger side, you have to pull the driver's side 1" from the wall, and hop over the console and get out the passenger door. Doing the hood / panels isn't as bad because you don't have to keep dragging the platform around.

So, I figure all that when you can't even see the roof is a waste of my time and products just to switch to a new wax every so often. The bumpers I will Opticoat and likely just apply wax over it if the mood strikes me. There isn't a lot of bumper on this SUV, but the front bumper is a bit intricate and just not enjoyable to work on. If I "start" polishing a bumper, I have to do every square centimeter of it perfectly. I just have that type of mentality. But, I figure if it's Opticoated, I can just clean it with Eraser and wax it when the time comes.
 
the Little Giant ladder company makes a tremendous ladder for this type of work. it is called their safety step ladder. makes doing roofs a lot easier. has large rectangular rubber steps, is a gradient step, has wheels to move it and a handle bar at the top for safety. after numerous falls and near falls and a knee replacement i would not be detailing now without them i have 4 different sizes now and give the small ones for gifts to friends.

Can you provide a link? Thanks!
 
the Little Giant ladder company makes a tremendous ladder for this type of work. it is called their safety step ladder. makes doing roofs a lot easier. has large rectangular rubber steps, is a gradient step, has wheels to move it and a handle bar at the top for safety. after numerous falls and near falls and a knee replacement i would not be detailing now without them i have 4 different sizes now and give the small ones for gifts to friends.

Those ladders look perfect!

You can always feel free to send one my way, friend! :)
 
I also hate waxing front bumpers because of the intricacies and because they are so low to the ground.

I agree! Bumpers are the worse for the above reasons. It's a real struggle to finish them at

the end but I force myself every time. I'm not ready for a coating on certain areas of the

vehicle but I definitely understand where you're coming from. I think I need a platform

though. I'm still sliding around an old five gallon bucket.
 
I really should just coat the roof and hood of my cars and the front bumper too. The three least favorite parts to do. Especially on my explorer. It has those stupid channels that pool water on the roof and it takes so many towels to dry, pain in the ass.
 
I like the idea of coating the roof on personal vehicles. As far as customer vehicles, whatever they are paying you to do is what you should do. Why coat it if they aren't paying you to do a paint correction as well? Seems like a big waste if it's not prepped correctly.

When I try out OC2.0 for the first time, it will be on my wife's TBSS roof only. That thing is huge!
 
I was thinking it was for business. Which is why I asked about cost and wording. Thought you guys would of figured that out.

But it makes a lot of sense to do it that way.
 
I really should just coat the roof and hood of my cars and the front bumper too. The three least favorite parts to do. Especially on my explorer. It has those stupid channels that pool water on the roof and it takes so many towels to dry, pain in the ass.

I use a large green guzzler on my wife's journey and " cast" it out in line with the ridges from the back of the vehicle. Slowly drag towards you and it sucks up close to every drop of water between the ridges. Works like a charm
 
Steve, hit a second coat as soon as you finish the roof and bumper. I would coat the whole vehicle and then play with your spray waxes and sealants! I haven't forgot I need to send you a few things.
 
First thing I did when I got new 4runner was put 3 coats of 22PLE on top.
 
Steve, hit a second coat as soon as you finish the roof and bumper. I would coat the whole vehicle and then play with your spray waxes and sealants! I haven't forgot I need to send you a few things.

Thanks, more spray waxes soon! How long should I wait before applying a second coat? I can do it right away? I thought it was 30 days, but I'm not sure. I'm thinking I'm just going to do the front bumper, sunroof glass, and roof, now, as the back bumper isn't very intricate.

I will post the whole process and run beading / durability test. Those areas wont get any waxes / spray waxes for several months, until I've convinced myself the OC has cured and have time for some comparisons. It will be interesting to compare beading / dirt shedding between OC and different waxes on the same vehicle. If I coated the whole vehicle, I'd be bored. I got a new tin of Collinite 915 lined up for the winter, my first try of a Collinite wax.
 
the xterra roof is a PITA. i also sealed it. however i do wash it when i wash. i have a small step ladder that helps.


Yeah man, been washing mine for ten years, don't care about swirls on the roof so use soft truck wash brush on broom handle.

My 2003 Supercharged Xterra
 
I can sympathize with SUV Roofs. When I did my Tahoe's Roof some months back, when I did a full paint correction, it was no picnic.

Even with the Werner Platform I could still not reach the center of the roof, and like in the past had to again resort to a 4' Ladder.

Treacherous yes, but I was always more worried about knocking the ladder into the side of the vehicle with a mishap. Washing and drying is one thing, but being up there with the Porter Cable DA was tiresome.

When I got done, I was sure happy to get past that phase, and like you, not only thought of coating the roof, but thought of coating the entire vehicle.

I too like detailing, but later thought, a coating would've offered the best protection to the paint.
 
I think we should find some 100lb hottie and teach her how to use a da and she can get up there at $150.00 an hour and the customer gets to watch, wait a second, let me take that back I just thought of my new detailing business.
 
Oh runrun...you're starting to worry me a little...you are reminding me of BillD when he was under his Audi polishing the exhaust (this was his DD BTW)...I'm not talking about the tip or some part you could see...I'm talking about the whole exhaust system.

I'm half expecting you to tell us you were thinking about doing the same thing, just in case you're doing some Dukes of Hazzard maneuver the people you fly over will see your attention to detail to the underside of your car...


Setec, that's very funny. Yes I'm bad but I'm not that bad... at least not yet.

Im the MANIm the MANIm the MAN
 
I never have a problem doing roofs.
You need to get a 3 step ladder.
Has a place for your stuff too.
Those Warner platforms are only one step. You need to get above the roof to properly work it.
 
Hey, Swanic, that's exactly what I did for the same reasons. I couldn't bring myself to OC the entire car because I enjoy polishing and waxing her too much. These pics are after I did a full detail and polish on her. I OC'd the roof, front bumper, grill n hood emblem, and the rims. I pulled the rims and did a complete clay n polish before the OC. The rest of her got a Wolfgang seal and a 1/2 n 1/2 of Fuzion (left side) and Megs 16 (right side). I had both waxes so I figured "why not?" just to compare. I OC'd my wife's SUV and absolutely love it. She's a tough critic but she loves the way it looks on her daily driver. It really does make detailing the car a breeze, everything wipes off with just a little qd. You really can't go wrong OCing your daily driver.
 
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