New Gas Grill Needed

M.P. Cobra Fan said:
Be it gas or charcoal, you can NOT go wrong with Weber.
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:iagree: Let it be known, this man speaks the truth.

My favorite method for grilling is Lump Coal in a Standard Charcoal Weber. Chimney coal starter with newspaper, no fluid, leave the coals in there until they are really going good. Then dump and spread, incredibly high heat. Then "season the coals" with a little McCormic's Original Montreal Steak Seasoning (just so the whole neighborhood knows I'm grilling :drool: )

I've done what rkozik said about putting on the lid, closing the damper(s) and reusing coals, in my Weber. It works :props:

For indoor use, I have 2-3 of these exact units- http://thumbs2.ebaystatic.com/m/mlXhMdpDf_XTEtIREn5GBPw/140.jpg They were from garage sales. Love 'em, quick setup, easy clean up. There is only one heat setting... ON. You can put the grill rack upside down for high heat, right side up for normal heat, and the rotisserie make's the best roast ever.

Never really been a Gas Grill enthusiast. I'm either full-on charcoal outside or lazy electric inside.

My Grandpa has a Smoker-Grill that takes pellets (of which there are several flavors). It's very easy to use, just flip on the power switch. A motor feeds in pellets, smoke fills the grill, all drippings hit a large metal plate for easy cleaning. I always fire it up when I house sit for him.

I've heard great things about the Big Green Egg, I want one...


For general reference-
Grilling= fast cooking with direct, high heat.
BBQ= slow and low, indirect heat.
 
Weber makes some great standard gas grills. Unfortunately they do not make an infra-red. The cooking surface temp of infra-red's will hit 700 - 1000 F. If you want a great steak or chop, try one of those. Charbroil makes the "Red" line which does not use the fragile and tougher to clean ceramic heaters. It will hit 800F. I have done BBQ on it by turning the heat down to low, putting the ribs or brisket on the top rack and using a smoker box, but I still prefer a charcoal grill for BBQ.
 
I have a Weber Summit S670 and have been very happy with it.
 
Weber makes/made a great product, albeit at a higher price point. They've sent their lower end production over seas, which may or may not have an effect on quality and longevity. I had a Weber Geneis Silver for about 10 years and it was nice. No side burner and 'east to west' main burners. I sold it for $180 after those 10 years and paid around $500 for it new. I currently have a Big Green Egg, which is a fantastic cooker. It does it all, and it does it with ease. I smoked 30# of chuck roast and boston butt on Memorial Day. Got the egg going, set the vents and let the temp settle in and went to a friends house for the rest of the day to swim and eat. Came home that evening and the meat was about an hour from being finished. I also have a JennAir (Nexgrill) gas grill from Lowes. It's Natural Gas and I love not having to refill bottles. It's a 2006 model and has the 'good' 304 stainless. With the price of stainless going thru the roof, most 304 grill are in the $1200-? range. The lower grade 4xx stainless won't hold up as well. It's pretty slim pickin's in the lower cost (under a grand) gas grill market right now. Good Luck!
 
Screw the Weber, get a Jenn Air. 6 years and after MANY uses the brass burners and stainless grates still look like new. I use it 3-4 times a week in the spring, summer and fall. Side by side it owns Weber in quality.
 
I still say fix your old one and save your money. The economy is about to tank ;)
 
Big Green Egg is the only way to go. Have a small gas grill for very small occasion.
 
Dubbin1 said:
Screw the Weber, get a Jenn Air. 6 years and after MANY uses the brass burners and stainless grates still look like new. I use it 3-4 times a week in the spring, summer and fall. Side by side it owns Weber in quality.
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My Father-in-Law owns an appliance store that sells both Weber and Jenn Air grills (and appliances). He recommended the Weber over Jen Air. Maybe for the price the Weber was better (we get wholesale obviously) but he gained nothing by recommending one over the other.
 
Flash Gordon said:
I still say fix your old one and save your money. The economy is about to tank ;)
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I am in the industry and while careful I think we "may" be alright. I always have lived within my means anyhoo, if I cannot afford it I dont buy it.

As for the grill its gone ... a wind storm picked it up and pitched it back to my yard with great fury. Since then, nothing seems to go back together or work properly. We need a grill ....
 
batb said:
My Father-in-Law owns an appliance store that sells both Weber and Jenn Air grills (and appliances). He recommended the Weber over Jen Air. Maybe for the price the Weber was better (we get wholesale obviously) but he gained nothing by recommending one over the other.
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When I was looking for a grill I studied both brands thoroughly, the Jen-Air came out on top on all the reviews and studying I did. I know with my Jen-Air I will never have to replace the burners or stainless grates. As far as I know and from all the reading I have done that can't be said for the Webers.

I really wonder about the quality of the Webers now that they are a walmart grill. After reading a bunch of reviews my bro in law even picked a char broil over a weber.

Anyway I love my gas Jen-Air but I have been missing a charcoal grill more and more.
 
killrwheels@autogeek said:
As for the grill its gone ... a wind storm picked it up and pitched it back to my yard with great fury. Since then, nothing seems to go back together or work properly. We need a grill ....
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Try the Sears outlet store for a scratch and dent then
 
Dubbin1 said:
When I was looking for a grill I studied both brands thoroughly, the Jen-Air came out on top on all the reviews and studying I did. I know with my Jen-Air I will never have to replace the burners or stainless grates. As far as I know and from all the reading I have done that can't be said for the Webers.

I really wonder about the quality of the Webers now that they are a walmart grill. After reading a bunch of reviews my bro in law even picked a char broil over a weber.

Anyway I love my gas Jen-Air but I have been missing a charcoal grill more and more.
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Not sure who is writing the reviews you and your bro-in-law read, but,

Every Weber grill I have owned has been a solid performer. I gave my last one to my father-in-law simply because I wanted a bigger, stainless steel one. The previous was the basic entry level 2 burner. Other than the igniter button, that grill was ( and still is) solid. It is 13 years old now.

I currently own 3 webers. All of them get regular use and have never let me down. My Summit series has the heaviest grates I have ever seen on a grill. I dont see them ever breaking or rotting. The burners are stainless. So far the only problem I have had with them is built up crud. I just cleaned the outside with a wire brush. Problem solved.
 
+1 for Weber :props:

I have owned one of their Genesis series (not sure which one) for the past 8 years w/o a single problem. I checked into parts availability at the beginning of Spring in case I had to replace the burners this year and found all the parts I needed locally (certainly available online). As it turned out there was no need to replace anything this year but parts are still available should the need arise.
 
Just understand that what you're buying today, be it Weber, JennAir, etc, they are not the same quality of grill that you could have bought a few years ago. Entry level Webers (~$500) were built like tanks, had a good warranty and lasted. They were also sparse in extras. Again, my Silver was over $500 in the late '90's and it had 3 'east/west' (not as desirable as 'north south') burners and that's it. No side burner, the cart was painted steel with single sided hollow plastic wheels. Don't get me wrong, it was a tank and lasted, but that's not the same Weber you'll get today (IMHO). They've sent their entry level grills production overseas. Doesn't guarantee a drop in quality, but doesn't instill confidence. Again, IMHO, Weber is/was a grill you pay more $ for the quality or longevity, not the bells and whistles. The bells and whistles are available, but cost even more money. JennAir doesn't manufacture a gas grill, they sell the name to a manufacturer to produce. My 2006 Jenn Air 3 burner, natural gas grill is made by Nexgrill. It came with a lifetime warranty. I believe they did this because they gambled that most people will get a new grill every few years. Another poster mentioned that he'd never have to get another grill because his JennAir has stainless grates and burners, untrue. I have a new set of burners for mine. The originals didn't rust away, but the orifices (orifi?) wear and the flames become yellow. The stainless grates will deteriorate also, but again, with the lifetime warranty, I have new grates, burners and tamers waiting for me to install. The problem with the new JennAirs, and every other stainless grill, is that the stainless they are using is not very corrosion resistant, the warranties are shorter, and the lifespans have deminished without the pricing going down. The moral is that you can't base your decision on the quality of the older grills.
 
70chevelle said:
Another poster mentioned that he'd never have to get another grill because his JennAir has stainless grates and burners, untrue. I have a new set of burners for mine. The originals didn't rust away, but the orifices (orifi?) wear and the flames become yellow. The stainless grates will deteriorate also
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I don't see these grates going anywhere anytime soon. After 6 years both the grates and the burners look like new. I'm sticking with never needing to replace the grill. The stainless on mine isn't the cheap crap they put in others. Of course the $1000 price tag may have something to do with that.
 
+1 for the Weber or Jenny-Air. I was on the fence recently after my Charbroil Commercial Series started having issues again. I really wanted a Charbroil Red, but the many reviews online on its iffy longevity worried me. I decided to spend the extra money and go with the Genesis Weber, which most sources rank as #1. I have absolutely no regrets and look forward to years of great service.
 
Dubbin1 said:
I really wonder about the quality of the Webers now that they are a walmart grill.
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Don't buy your Weber at Wal-Mart---same goes for the John Deeres they sell there---third world country imported crap.



Bob
 
70chevelle said:
They've sent their entry level grills production overseas. Doesn't guarantee a drop in quality, but doesn't instill confidence.
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The Genesis and Q are made 20 miles from my house in Illinois. I guess I'll stick with the genesis model.
 
Man, you guys are very passionate about your grills. I'm very happy to see you all are using propane

I sell propane and propane accessories should any of you need anything

Regards,

H. Hill
 
Dubbin1 said:
I don't see these grates going anywhere anytime soon. After 6 years both the grates and the burners look like new. I'm sticking with never needing to replace the grill. The stainless on mine isn't the cheap crap they put in others. Of course the $1000 price tag may have something to do with that.
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Oh, believe me, I'm aware of the price tag. I have the same 304 stainless as yours. I never say never:xyxthumbs: but it will last a long time. If you have the manual, check your warranty. Mine is lifetime on everything except the igniter and thermometer. I wasn't questioning the quality, just saying the heat cycles take their toll, but as long as they make parts for our grills we should be covered in the event something fails.
 
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