New ONR Hyper Foam

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Yeah, Ech2o leaves protection behind and if you've got some recent toppers on, well, Ech2o can be SMEARY, it's why I use it sparingly

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True. I use it at 1:30 now. Another thing about ech20 is you have to let it haze. The haze is when it's ready to be wiped off. I believe it says that on the bottle too. I've applied ech20 at 1:20 on the hood spreading it out like a coating with a mf applicator. Let it sit for a minute. Hazed up and wiped off. Came out great. Maybe that's the wax component in the formulation.
 
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True. I use it at 1:30 now. Another thing about ech20 is you have to let it haze. The haze is when it's ready to be wiped off. I believe it says that on the bottle too. I've applied ech20 at 1:20 on the hood spreading it out like a coating with a mf applicator. Let it sit for a minute. Hazed up and wiped off. Came out great. Maybe that's the wax component in the formulation.
I stopped using it as a WW, never could get it right

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You mean the where Pan "almost" drank Beadmaker

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All I remember was them shilling Beadmaker to both those two like it was the cure for cancer, and both of them acted like it was the most amazing product that ever came out of the detailing industry

They (the TRC guys) tend to be that way with P&S ever since they (Renny Doyle and crew) let them be junior members of the "detailing mafia"

Just gets old
 
It's really no different than jocks, burnouts and honor students in high school

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Exactly

Those Beadmaker videos with Pan and MM did it for me, done
Oh god, Pan and Moreman together? I would have been looking for something to hang myself with.
They (the TRC guys) tend to be that way with P&S ever since they (Renny Doyle and crew) let them be junior members of the "detailing mafia"

I'm not sure if that was just a joke, but remember that Rags to Riches microfiber detergent is a co-branded product of TRC and P&S.

Back to the topic, I see they are selling the IK Foam Pro 2+ with a quart of the foaming ONR, and that meets the free shipping threshold....hmm. I almost pulled the trigger but the 10% off code in the store header didn't work.
 
Oh god, Pan and Moreman together? I would have been looking for something to hang myself with.
No, if I remember correctly it was 2 separate videos, and this was several several years back

If it had been both of them together I would have scratched my own eyes out and ice picked my ears

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I'm not sure if that was just a joke, but remember that Rags to Riches microfiber detergent is a co-branded product of TRC and P&S.
My point was that the TRC guys tend (tended?) to overhype P&S stuff because they were taught the secret handshake and got the decoder ring

I am not saying P&S doesn't have some winners, I was just saying that back in the day when I sat and watched UToob videos just to watch them I felt like TRC spent an inordinate amount of time and energy pushing P&S over the other great brands they carried

You always know more about the intimate and sometimes incestuous relationships between all the players and there is probably a link between P&S and TRC I am not aware of

Anyway, enough paranoid ranting on my behalf

Please return to your regularly scheduled programming

Peace
 
My point was that the TRC guys tend (tended?) to overhype P&S stuff because they were taught the secret handshake and got the decoder ring

I am not saying P&S doesn't have some winners, I was just saying that back in the day when I sat and watched UToob videos just to watch them I felt like TRC spent an inordinate amount of time and energy pushing P&S over the other great brands they carried

You always know more about the intimate and sometimes incestuous relationships between all the players and there is probably a link between P&S and TRC I am not aware of

Anyway, enough paranoid ranting on my behalf

Please return to your regularly scheduled programming

Peace
I hear yah about the push but P&S has a number of repeat items for me, namely Brake Buster

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You always know more about the intimate and sometimes incestuous relationships between all the players and there is probably a link between P&S and TRC I am not aware of
I personally haven't used any P&S products, I have been pretty restrained buying new stuff in the P&S era (trying to use up all the stuff I bought in the unrestrained era before that).
I just think that because Rags to Riches is a co-branded product (that has TRC logo on the label), they are obsequious in regard to P&S simply because they are partnered with them. But isn't TRC in general pretty fawning about all of their suppliers? I mean, they do their own yearly (online) trade show as a mutual admiration society.
Who's Moreman

You don't want to know.

PS I shouldn't be too harsh on TRC, they surprisingly, in both their SEMA coverage and their YouTube channel, will give "air time" to competitors, like Adam's and Autofiber, and I guess that obsessed guy, unless they are selling his stuff now.
 
Not a fan of the Obaessed guy, seems like quite the elitist, like the Esoteric guy

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Sorry about the spelling, Obsessed

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