New ONR Hyper Foam

[Coatingsarecrack]

They also did it for the IK e Foam 2 or whatever it's called. Could be a good product but it's evolutionary.

Love it. Works longer and a lot quieter than a bike pump. If. The $70 extra bucks is worth it is up to the individual but worth it to my and excited to get a hand one.


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[Coatingsarecrack]

When TRC did their Absolute "game changer" I stopped taking their recommendations seriously.

I do think it cleaned as well as most I used. I would say game changing in a sense as I feel it caused the flood of next gen/2.0 rinsless’s that followed.

It was the 1st one that was extra slick and that caused others to make changes as pretty much every previous brand updated to include.


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[CleanIT]

Optimum Touchless Decontamination Car Wash

Optimum Touchless Decontamination Car Wash pH Neutral Formula Optimum Touchless Decon Wash is three products in one. It is a touch free car wash, foaming pre-wash, and heavy duty decontamination wash. It can be used for routine washing as a spray on rinse off touch free wash, foaming pre-wash...

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[Setec Astronomy]

Another product I can't figure out. These two seem more like solutions in search of a problem. Optimum needs to explain this stuff better.

They apparently have a video on their facebook page about the Decon but it doesn't help explain why I would use that instead of Optimum Car Wash, perhaps at a stronger dilution.

 

[CleanIT]

Another product I can't figure out. These two seem more like solutions in search of a problem. Optimum needs to explain this stuff better.

They apparently have a video on their facebook page about the Decon but it doesn't help explain why I would use that instead of Optimum Car Wash, perhaps at a stronger dilution.

Agree. Only thing I can think of is this product has a higher concentration of surfactants. Most decon products are not pH neutral either. Interesting...Optimum is coming full force.

 

[chilly]

Agree. Only thing I can think of is this product has a higher concentration of surfactants. Most decon products are not pH neutral either. Interesting...Optimum is coming full force.

After leading the pack a decade and a half ago they stayed too conservative for many people and I think they are trying to make their presence known once again; however, to come out with 2 products that are heavy on buzz words but at the same time don't seem to have a niche is rather puzzling, as Setec and CleanIT have already stated

I originally thought the foaming rinseless was a challenger to Frothe but apparently it is just a foaming pre-rinse and should be rinsed off with another rinsing agent, either flowing water or I guess, just take it off with your normal rinseless process

The neutral decon soap?

Yeah, it better be some amazing surfactant that dissolves and removes all types of road mung

 

[Setec Astronomy]

I originally thought the foaming rinseless was a challenger to Frothe but apparently it is just a foaming pre-rinse and should be rinsed off with another rinsing agent, either flowing water or I guess, just take it off with your normal rinseless process

They seem to be saying it can be used as a conventional wash, or as a rinseless, or in some hybrid process. I hate to keep harping on this, but it seems like they came up with a cool idea, but didn't beta test it to figure out how people could use it. These are pre-SEMA releases, maybe there ARE beta testers who are going to talk about this at SEMA. OPT apparently has a lot of stuff coming for SEMA, for some reason they decided to release these early, not sure I understand why.

I'm not sure who the "face" of OPT is these days, since Yvan isn't there anymore, the guy in the facebook video isn't in any of the OPT YouTube vids, I don't think. I'm just saying I don't know who is in charge of explaining to us potential customers how to get the best use out of these products, because the 2 minute one on the decon wash raised more questions than it answered.

 

[Setec Astronomy]

I'm wrong, the new guy is Jason, I'm not sure why they are just making these two minute videos, but this one is from a couple of days ago, and they are presenting the ONR Hyper Foam as a one-bottle wash product, that can be used as a conventional wash, rinseless wash, foaming pre-spray, foam cannon, interior or exterior. If it actually works for all those things, that would be great, I'm not sure how that helps any of us...are we really going to have just one bottle of wash, instead of the 10-15 we have now? That would make too much sense.

 

[chilly]

I'm wrong, the new guy is Jason, I'm not sure why they are just making these two minute videos, but this one is from a couple of days ago, and they are presenting the ONR Hyper Foam as a one-bottle wash product, that can be used as a conventional wash, rinseless wash, foaming pre-spray, foam cannon, interior or exterior. If it actually works for all those things, that would be great, I'm not sure how that helps any of us...are we really going to have just one bottle of wash, instead of the 10-15 we have now? That would make too much sense.

There is a McKees video with Nick doing essentially this same process, foaming N914 on with an IK sprayer as a prerinse and then using N914 in normal rinseless mode to remove the foam and the dirt, so that’s not a new process

Hopefully the ONR RW product is an improvement in the three modes that they are claiming


Edited to add: Whoever Jason is, someone needs to explain production values in making videos

 

[Bunky]

In the Ammo foamless video, it is interesting how he can clean a spot on trashed carand declare it leaving depth and shine on a spot with the rest of the clear still dirty. We need a contest where people guess what rinse or rinseless product was used to clean a car and whether if they used foam.

I assume the OPT foam takes a safe clean process (ONR no foam) and makes it better than safe.

 

[Setec Astronomy]

There is a McKees video with Nick doing essentially this same process, foaming N914 on with an IK sprayer as a prerinse and then using N914 in normal rinseless mode to remove the foam and the dirt, so that’s not a new process

If I implied that was new, that wasn't my intent, certainly the surfactant RW's have some capability for that. Maybe Dr. G was just listening to the noise from the YT crowd about polymer rinseless vs. surfactant, and he decided he needed to make a product for the surfactant crowd.

The interesting thing to me is whether this will work better as a pre-rinse than using regular ONR or another rinseless. I've never used N-914.

 

[Klasse Act]

If I implied that was new, that wasn't my intent, certainly the surfactant RW's have some capability for that. Maybe Dr. G was just listening to the noise from the YT crowd about polymer rinseless vs. surfactant, and he decided he needed to make a product for the surfactant crowd.

The interesting thing to me is whether this will work better as a pre-rinse than using regular ONR or another rinseless. I've never used N-914.

Surprised you never used N914, it's a very solid product and one I've used as both a RW & WW, both work great

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[Karl_in_Chicago]

I'm wrong, the new guy is Jason, I'm not sure why they are just making these two minute videos, but this one is from a couple of days ago, and they are presenting the ONR Hyper Foam as a one-bottle wash product, that can be used as a conventional wash, rinseless wash, foaming pre-spray, foam cannon, interior or exterior. If it actually works for all those things, that would be great, I'm not sure how that helps any of us...are we really going to have just one bottle of wash, instead of the 10-15 we have now? That would make too much sense.

Are they angling to put New Shimmer out of business?

 

[Setec Astronomy]

Surprised you never used N914, it's a very solid product and one I've used as both a RW & WW, both work great

I still have almost a whole quart of the Meg's rinseless which spawned N-914 when Meg's dropped it. I just accumulated so many washes and my activity level has dropped so much (I no longer have any cars sitting outside), that I'm still using up old stuff. I am finally using up some of the rinseless because that's almost all I do these days, but I still have tons of conventional wash.

Sometimes I think you do more washes in a week than I do in a year these days.

 

[chilly]

If I implied that was new, that wasn't my intent, certainly the surfactant RW's have some capability for that. Maybe Dr. G was just listening to the noise from the YT crowd about polymer rinseless vs. surfactant, and he decided he needed to make a product for the surfactant crowd.

The interesting thing to me is whether this will work better as a pre-rinse than using regular ONR or another rinseless. I've never used N-914.

You certainly didn’t come across as if it were a new thing so no worries there my friend

I have some original N914 and a bottle of the version 2 that I haven’t even opened yet because version 1 still works (imagine that)

If there is anything more than dust bonded to the paint I will forego ONR and reach for N914 for both the prerinse and the RW because of the surfactant load

I feel it is still “safe” to use despite the lack of polymers

For a “dusty” car, ONR is still my go too

I haven’t come to any conclusion yet about Hero and its hybrid formula, as I don’t have enough time under my belt with it

Thinking about this after your post above it is looking to me that this might be an N914 clone, other than them saying it’s also a bucket wash

I certainly won’t pass judgement, although I will say when you take a single purpose detailing product and apply the Swiss Army knife treatment it frequently results in something that does a few things kind of ok, but usually doesn’t excel at any one thing


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[Setec Astronomy]

Some day...we will know all about ONR Hyper Foam. Perhaps Pan will review it?

I'm still rooting for a review on the Klasse Act YouTube channel!

 

[Klasse Act]

I still have almost a whole quart of the Meg's rinseless which spawned N-914 when Meg's dropped it. I just accumulated so many washes and my activity level has dropped so much (I no longer have any cars sitting outside), that I'm still using up old stuff. I am finally using up some of the rinseless because that's almost all I do these days, but I still have tons of conventional wash.

Sometimes I think you do more washes in a week than I do in a year these days.

Yeah it seems like that, LOL

I try to get in 2-3 during the week, my ride, as my g/f's car, are outside 24/7 with those glorious pinetrees behind us

Before my issues with the knock sensor in my EN I was running the EN through a touch-free wash 3-4 times a week, now my g/f's Cruze gets run through it

With fall approaching the outside water will be turned off sometime in November, so I wanna get in as many 2BM's as possible before going to RW's 100%

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[Klasse Act]

Some day...we will know all about ONR Hyper Foam. Perhaps Pan will review it?

I'm still rooting for a review on the Klasse Act YouTube channel!

I'd love to have a channel, so I can show and explain why I ALWAYS use 2BM AND grit guards AND pre-treat when doing ALL RW's...safety first ️

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[Vegas1]

Surprised you never used N914, it's a very solid product and one I've used as both a RW & WW, both work great

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Agreed. Been using it for years.


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[Klasse Act]

When N914 came out there wasn't the market flood of RW's like we've had the past year or so, so curiosity helped McKee's N914

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