New Product - Optimum Opti-Coat 2.0

RaskyR1 said:
If they don't wash the car properly they'll still be coming back.


Almost all my clients lately have been going with Opti-Guard, not necessarily because it promises to last years, but more because it readily sheds dirt, makes washing much easier, reduces marring, and they simply don't have to wax the car anymore....I know I have a hard time finding the time needed to care for my car and having the coating on makes it much easier to do.

However, if the clients are not going to care for it properly (swirl-o-matic washes), it will get scratched up and they will have to come back for polishing.

IMO, the $200 I charge for the applications is worth it even if it has to be reapplied once or twice a year. :props:


Rasky :)
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Rasky,

Since you brought up swirling after Opti-Coat, do you feel it offers better anti-scratch/swirl resistance? I know you posted somewhere you had to remove a scratch/scratches from your red Acura a few weeks ago and reapply Opti-Coat.

Do you feel with proper car wash technique and "the perfect outside environment" ie.. no rocks flinging on freeway or other variables, Opti-coat can maintain a swirl free finish? Please elaborate.

Sportscarhiatus,

I think he meant both types of car washes. Improperly washed via car wash and clients. If its touch-free I dont see how it can induce swirls.
 
fishnugget said:
Rasky,

Since you brought up swirling after Opti-Coat, do you feel it offers better anti-scratch/swirl resistance? I know you posted somewhere you had to remove a scratch/scratches from your red Acura a few weeks ago and reapply Opti-Coat.

Do you feel with proper car wash technique and "the perfect outside environment" ie.. no rocks flinging on freeway or other variables, Opti-coat can maintain a swirl free finish? Please elaborate.

Sportscarhiatus,

I think he meant both types of car washes. Improperly washed via car wash and clients. If its touch-free I dont see how it can induce swirls.
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I'm not certain, but I do think the touch free washes can induce etching. They use very caustic cleaners in order to be able to get a nasty DD clean with only high pressure water. How else are they going to get it clean? Feed back please
 
sportscarhiatus said:
Rasky... what did you mean by the swirl-o-matic comment? Did you mean people improperly handwashing their cars using a mitt/bucket method? Or did you mean swirls coming from automatic washes where you pay 6-9 bucks? I do that during winter (use the automatic), but I use the touchless, and thus no swirls induced.

I guess if the customer knows how to take care of paint in the first place, they wouldn't be coming to us for services. So even if I choose to give them OC2.0 for example, chances are, they'll be back anyways since undoubtedly, swirls will be back on.
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Swirl-O-Matic are the auto washes with brushes or mops! :D





Touch-less washes will be fine...or at least they won't scratch/swirl.


I guess it depends on your clientele. It seems that a lot of my clients have recently purchased a new or used vehicle that was already neglected and they simply need me to get it looking nice but plan to maintain it themselves...though some may need help learning how to do it. For those who need help I also provide my clients with how to guides on proper washing techniques/media so that they can protect their investment.


Most people aren't going to spend to $600+ to perfect the paint and then neglect it right away.


Cheers, :)
Rasky
 
fishnugget said:
Rasky,

Since you brought up swirling after Opti-Coat, do you feel it offers better anti-scratch/swirl resistance? I know you posted somewhere you had to remove a scratch/scratches from your red Acura a few weeks ago and reapply Opti-Coat.

Do you feel with proper car wash technique and "the perfect outside environment" ie.. no rocks flinging on freeway or other variables, Opti-coat can maintain a swirl free finish? Please elaborate.

Sportscarhiatus,

I think he meant both types of car washes. Improperly washed via car wash and clients. If its touch-free I dont see how it can induce swirls.
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While I was washing my car using the traditional 2BM last summer my car was 100% free of defects. Now with the addition of a foam cannon and CR Spotless system, I'm confident it will remain free of defects as long as I stick with that wash regimen. :props:

Over last winter I parked outside and only washed with touch-less car washes and an occasional ONR wash. Most my scratching and marring either came from brushing off snow or people touching/brushing up against the car while it was dirty, and maybe some from ONR washing.

To answer your question on whether or not I think the coating reduces marring? I'd say yes, simply because of how redily it sheds/releases dirt. Other than that I'm not sure if a particle of dirt on the surface will be less likely to scratches a coated surface vs. a surface protected with a wax or sealant....though it sure would make for some good testing. :)


Rasky
 
Thanks for the thorough response Rasky. Looks like you have all the proper equipment to avoid swirls. I don't know how much CR charges for refill DI resin but it may be worth a shot checking out bulfreefsupply.com for cheaper prices on DI resin. This is where a lot of saltwater hobbyist buy bulk DI resin.

Deionization Resin - English

I think that is another peeve of mine when people try to squeeze through your car and end up scratching the side mirror or "brushing" your car. I saw this happen to my car at a Dodger game right after I parked.
 
master detailer said:
lol looks like good stuff for some one to do there own car. But as a Detailer I need my guys coming back 2 times a year if your wright they will not need me any more .sorry but I will not be selling this to any one . But will put it on my stuff lol for sure.
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That's only one way to look at it. Once you apply the coating, that really only eliminates the LSP step. A vehicle will still need a thorough cleaning (which will be much easier, but you can still charge the same), and if it's not a garage queen it will need light polishing or an AIO from time to time. Basically, it will make your detailing easier when you apply it to paint and especially to wheels.
 
MI Mike said:
Two part question.

After reading the responses and watching the the Detail Fest Video. It was mentioned that to removed Opti-Coat 2.0 you need to polish or use AIO. Which AIO? XMT-360, Klasse AIO or Opt. Poly-Seal, etc. Those that have used Opti-Coat. What works for you. Could Power Clean be used as a lsp, vs dawn and ipa wipedown??
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Chris@Optimum could respond on this for me ???
 
Chris@Optimum said:
That's only one way to look at it. Once you apply the coating, that really only eliminates the LSP step. A vehicle will still need a thorough cleaning (which will be much easier, but you can still charge the same), and if it's not a garage queen it will need light polishing or an AIO from time to time. Basically, it will make your detailing easier when you apply it to paint and especially to wheels.
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But won't light polishing or an AIO remove the coating?
 
MI Mike said:
Two part question.

After reading the responses and watching the the Detail Fest Video. It was mentioned that to removed Opti-Coat 2.0 you need to polish or use AIO. Which AIO? XMT-360, Klasse AIO or Opt. Poly-Seal, etc. Those that have used Opti-Coat. What works for you.

Could Power Clean be used as a lsp, vs dawn and ipa wipedown??
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I don't think any of the AIOs will remove it. I had to use Hyper Polish on an orange pad for a couple passes to get it off my hood and then I only knocked it down enough to reapply.

I'm sorry but I don't understand the second part. No product you mention is a last step product, they are all cleaners.


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D_Nyholm said:
But won't light polishing or an AIO remove the coating?
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No, you will have to use something more aggressive. An AIO will likely just clean it like it does for regular clear and a finish polish should be safe too. It has a decent thickness and won't come off like a sealant. I mean of course it may remove a bit of it but you should not strike thru the coating with a light polish or paint cleaner.


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If the car has orange peel:

1. Does the Opticoat end up thinner in some areas and thicker in others? (i.e. peaks and valleys)

2. Does Opticoat offset the orange peelish look a little, by sort of filling in those peaks and valleys

I guess they are more theoretical questions than anything else, Im rather curious.

Thanks.

-Chris
 
chris11le said:
If the car has orange peel:

1. Does the Opticoat end up thinner in some areas and thicker in others? (i.e. peaks and valleys)

2. Does Opticoat offset the orange peelish look a little, by sort of filling in those peaks and valleys

I guess they are more theoretical questions than anything else, Im rather curious.

Thanks.

-Chris
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1. No thickness depends on how much you lay down and get to spread evenly. It is very thin going on so it conforms to the surface even with orange peel.

2. No, it will make it glossy and protect it but not change it. That is why you need to prep paint defects before you apply it.


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Does anybody have the black cap from a old syringe? When I opened my new syringe I drop the cap and guess what, it fell into my garage drain. I would be happy to trade for a sample size bottle of Reload so you can try it. PM me.
 
dougaross said:
Does anybody have the black cap from a old syringe? When I opened my new syringe I drop the cap and guess what, it fell into my garage drain. I would be happy to trade for a sample size bottle of Reload so you can try it. PM me.
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PM me your address and I will send you a couple or you can check at a local medical supply store, they are a standard size.
 
Nick@Autogeek said:
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No, you're not seeing things!

For those of you that are familiar with the original Opti-Coat, you are well aware that its durability is second to none, but it was for professional use only and not available to the general public. Optimum Opti-Coat 2.0 was modified slightly from the original professional formula, (The pro version is still available under the Opti-Guard name.) Optimum Opti-Coat 2.0 cures more slowly, which gives you more time to apply the coating correctly. It's like adding an additional layer of clear coat to your vehicle.

When used on a properly prepped finish, Opti-Coat 2.0 will look clear, clean, and smooth. Opti-Coat 2.0 will not wash off and regular washing is the only step needed to maintain the shine.

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Optimum Opti-Coat 2.0 Permanent Paint Coating
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Thats real nice! Any youtube videos available yet?
 
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