New Wolfgang Ceramics vs DPGS hood test!

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Hi All!
I received Wolfgang SiO2 Paint Sealant from the marvelous Meghan. Around the same time I purchased Wolfgang Uber Ceramic Spray Coating.

There’s a lot of buzz going on about these two, and a lot of questions. Particularly, how are they different, which has higher longevity, better behavior, how does the sealant compare to classic Deep Gloss Paint Sealant, etc. Hopefully this comparison test can help shed some light on some of the questions.

Besides testing the two new Wolfgang ceramic products and DGPS, I wanted to add two more old favorites for my own interest:

1) PBL Sealant as a resin-based, coating-ish, old-school comparison against WG SiO2 Paint Sealant (and DPGS for that matter).

2) Pinnacle Crystal SiO2 Spray Sealant (closest thing I had to the Wolfgang version) to compare against Uber Ceramic Spray Coating

Prep
I polished my X5 hood with WG Finishing Glaze (polish) using LC orange pad, then hand polished with PBL Surface Cleansing Lotion, then finally a quick wipe with WG Perfekt Finish Pain Prep spray. Overkill, but I wanted to totally ensure the surface was squeaky clean.

Partial base coat
To give the comparison an extra dimension, I taped off the front 1/3 of the hood and applied PBL Diamond Surface Coating and let cure 24 hours. The back 2/3 remains bare.
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Application
So I removed the boundary tape between bare paint and PBL Surface Coating and split the hood into 4 sections. Then, 1/4th of the hood split into two again for my Pinnacle comparisons (these get a bit less real estate since they are bonus guests).

From left to right (passenger to driver side):
1a) Pinnacle Crystal SiO2 Spray
1b) PBL Sealant
2) WG Uber Ceramic Spray Coating
3) WG SiO2 Paint Sealant
4) WG DGPS

*Note: Tape is wider in front-middle to compare PBL Surface Coating as stand-alone
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The 3 sealants all applied very easily and wiped off effortlessly. These are some of the easiest applying sealants and WG SiO2 is right there with them. I gave them all 30 minutes prior to wipe off. The newbie (SiO2 Paint Sealant) is a slightly thicker lotion consistency than the watery DGPS. It’s similar to PBL in its consistency. It smells closer to DGPS I guess.

The 2 sprays are quite different. The Pinnacle Spray Sealant is more watery and wipes on and off effortlessly, in fact it disappears into the paint. The Uber Spray Coating is clearly more ‘solvent’ in feel and smell. It can clearly be seen flashing with the rainbow colors. That residue is wiped off easily afterwards.

One hiccup during application.
While spraying Uber Spray Coating, some drops from the spray-head dripped on the WG SiO2 Sealant section. This only happened on the front of the hood where PBL Surface is underneath. I blotted the Uber Spray carefully, wiped off, then reapplied SiO2 Sealant on this front hood area only. I’ll see if the spots behave differently and redo if needed.
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Curing
I’ll let these cure for 24 hours (each Wolfgang product requires 12 with no moisture) and provide updates when anything noticeable occurs.

Thanks for reading!
 
Awesome comparison! I have a hunch the uber spray coating will fare best. Really curious to see how WGDGPS does against it's SiO2 counterpart.
 
Nice comparison. Will be following along.

I received my bottle as well and got my car polished and waxed over the weekend. Need to get the pictures together and write up done to share. One thing to note, it is very easy to work with and the results are really really glossy.
 
All pics below were taken after numerous t-storms and heavy rain over the last 24 hours. Lots of wind too which has started to cover the hood with larger plant/pollen bits and dust.

Regardless of the newly collected particulates on the hood, I thought it useful to show comparisons of the sections. And I spent way too much time marking up pictures for this not-too-useful scenario, but maybe this could represent a peek into which LSPs keep their behaviors a bit better in between longer wash periods.

Might be hard to see in pictures I took, but my winner for best behavior after rough spring weather is...

WG SiO2 Paint Sealant.

Pinnacle SiO2 Spray for 2nd.

PBL Sealant for 3rd

WG DGPS for 4th

WG Ceramic Spray Coating faired last in my eyes.

Disclaimer: Dirty/dusty, windy, rainy spring observations are not 100% scientific regarding quality of LSPs. But I was bored.

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The pinnacle spray and the Wolfgang SIO2 sealant seem to bead the best so far.


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I'm eager to see what they (particularly the wolfgang uber spray) look like after a thorough wash with something like carpro reset. If my suspicion is correct the beading will improve. I applied the M37 (V2) coating to my hood not that long ago and after a couple of weeks it rained outside, so I went to take a look at the beading and it looked exactly like the wolfgang uber spray coating, which left me discouraged. That weekend I washed with hyper wash and noticed a significant improvement in beading/sheeting.
 
01GreyStangGT said:
The pinnacle spray and the Wolfgang SIO2 sealant seem to bead the best so far.


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Pinnacle Spray was good and the picture of it alone came out great... because it was a side hood pic that I could zero in on. Across the entire area (easier to see in real life), SiO2 sealant was a step better.
 
SNP209 said:
I'm eager to see what they (particularly the wolfgang uber spray) look like after a thorough wash with something like carpro reset. If my suspicion is correct the beading will improve. I applied the M37 (V2) coating to my hood not that long ago and after a couple of weeks it rained outside, so I went to take a look at the beading and it looked exactly like the wolfgang uber spray coating, which left me discouraged. That weekend I washed with hyper wash and noticed a significant improvement in beading/sheeting.
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Yes! I’m not concerned about a test after this nasty weather, I expect CSC to be just fine. It was clogged by the crap that the wind blew around. Seems like heavy polymers handle this the best, and I expect a full recovery for CSC after a nice wash, probably tonight or Saturday, weather being the determinant.

Have faith, 57Rambler! I was hesitant to make a big deal by posting this, but as mentioned, was bored sitting around during quarantine.
 
Washed today with glossless Four Star Professional Shampoo. Not sure if the stuff cleanses as well as Reset or Hyper Wash but it’s all I got for a normal, glossless wash right now.

Videos below show water behavior during hose downs. Quality was great on my iPhone but YouTube can’t match that, so a little harder to see the sheeting. In case you don’t want to sit through them (55sec and 30sec), I include my real life observations in text.

Product reference:
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Overall hood:
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My Sheeting Rankings
1) WG SiO2 Paint Sealant is a beast in the first 10 days. Water hates it.
2) Pinnacle SiO2 Spray is doing awesome too and it’s normal to wonder how it would look on the middle hood next to WG SiO2 Sealant. But I sprayed many times from different angles and I believe this is noticeably in 2nd.
3) WG CSC. Looks really good but still in 3rd, not far behind Pinnacle Spray.
4-5) PBL Sealant and WG DGPS seem about even, both well behind the 3 ceramic products. Nothing to be ashamed about.


WG Ceramic Spray Coating (left) vs WG SiO2 Sealant (right):
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- As noted above, WG SiO2 Sealant sheets faster, but CSC is still doing very well.
- The more notable observation is that the front of the hood (bottom of video) with PBL Surface Coating as a base, definitely slows down the sheeting of both products. More so with CSC, which tells me that coating on different coating probably isn’t as good as coating on paint... Or my Surface Coating is old and less potent (testing this elsewhere now)... or it likes being applied in warmer temps (applied in garage around 63degF but cured for 24 hours in which the temperature probably bottomed at mid/low 50s). Whatever I did wrong, I’m glad I applied them all standalone on 2/3 of the hood.


I’ll provide updates for anything new of interest, or in a few weeks. Thanks for reading!
 
Man I cant wait to see the results. Im new to really getting into paint detailing. I just installed Klaase Ulta High Gloss and I like the look but man was it a pain to put 3 coats of it on a car. Spent 2 days. Install, wipe off and man it doesn't like to come back off, then wait 12 hours, install, remove wait another 12 hours then again. Lets see how well it holds up. But leaning more towards one of these type ceramic coatings for next time
 
Thanks for the update on this! Disappointing staying power on the Uber Spray Coating for this test, especially so soon after applying it. I've got a spot that's been brewing for a week on the daily driver, and I prepped and applied a spot on the other test car today to get some results to cross reference with. Should be able to wash and provide some results soon. Keep us posted!
 
Loach said:
Thanks for the update on this! Disappointing staying power on the Uber Spray Coating for this test, especially so soon after applying it. I've got a spot that's been brewing for a week on the daily driver, and I prepped and applied a spot on the other test car today to get some results to cross reference with. Should be able to wash and provide some results soon. Keep us posted!
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I actually can’t say whether it’s staying power or it’s just been this way since application. The first time I brought the car into rain (after like 5 days since application), the beading wasn’t any better really.

Loach, do you recall any dripping from your spray head? This happened to me as noted at the end of post #1. I assume it wouldn’t impact the quality of product so soon but I’m still seeking possible reasons until I see my new test case in action. I have another bottle I can try if all else fails.
 
acuRAS82 said:
I actually can’t say whether it’s staying power or it’s just been this way since application. The first time I brought the car into rain (after like 5 days since application), the beading wasn’t any better really.

Loach, do you recall any dripping from your spray head? This happened to me as noted at the end of post #1. I assume it wouldn’t impact the quality of product so soon but I’m still seeking possible reasons until I see my new test case in action. I have another bottle I can try if all else fails.
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I didn't see any heavy dripping coming from the sprayer that I noticed. But that sprayer top can get wet after spraying which is what I also noticed with the others like Liquid Seal and Opti-Seal that use this type of sprayer that atomizes like this.
 
Loach said:
Thanks for the update on this! Disappointing staying power on the Uber Spray Coating for this test, especially so soon after applying it. I've got a spot that's been brewing for a week on the daily driver, and I prepped and applied a spot on the other test car today to get some results to cross reference with. Should be able to wash and provide some results soon. Keep us posted!
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Keep us updated!


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Super review! Thanks!! I just applied 2 coats (to ensure 100% coverage) of Wolfgang Si02 to my dd so I am happy to see how well it is performing in your test.
 
I am watching this thread as well as I am trying to decide either to go SiO2 or Spray Ceramic. I am looking for good longevity accompanied by the glassy/wet look. I was hoping that the Spray Ceramic would last longer as would mean less dragging a pad across the PPF on the front of my wifes Rav. :-\
 
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