Not sure about Duragloss #501?

embolism said:
1/4 oz 601, 1 oz 501 or 105

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604_Snooze said:
If you are just doing 1 car, you won't need 5 oz of mixture, so mix less. If you don't use it up , it will turn from watery to paste.
Go to the dollar store to get a small bottle just for this DG mixture.
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so you guys think 1.25 oz total cocktail would cover a car? squeeze bottle? just trying to capitalize on your experience. i have some duragloss coming in for my white minivan and silver coupe.
 
mwtaco said:
so you guys think 1.25 oz total cocktail would cover a car? squeeze bottle? just trying to capitalize on your experience. i have some duragloss coming in for my white minivan and silver coupe.
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You could do it right on the pad too. 1 dime size dot of 601 4 dime size dots of 501 or 105 and do 1 panel. Then do the same exact ratio for all the panels or as needed. No mixing or bottles and you know each panel is getting the correct ratio of each product. This is what I plan on doing.

I currently mix Megs Cleaner Wax (3 dots) and Collonite 476s (2 dots) on the pad and then do 1 panel. I have done about 10 cars with this combo and have had great results thus far. For just a wax application I use a small lightweight wax spreader that I converted to accept hook and loop backing by taking off the foam backing from the backing plate and glued velcro to the backing plate. It now accepts my Adams 6 inch pads and only goes up to 3500 rpms. Makes wax applications a breeze.
 
I think 1.25 oz. is a lot already. You will be able to layer 601/105 with such amount.
 
Since 501 is a cleaner too, one could do 501, then clean that off then a mix of 601/105 too. I know that adds a step, but that would be an option too.
 
mwtaco said:
can u give some more details? how much do u mix at one time? what do you put the mixture in? presumably its good for one use, correct?
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Hellspawn said:
Can you perhaps hint me on actual amounts? ratios were not my best thing...
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embolism said:
1/4 oz 601, 1 oz 501 or 105

wooo wooo
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There's been a lot written on this subject already, but I'm too lazy to do the search, so I'll just type it over again. What I do is go to the dollar store and buy a plastic squeeze bottle used for ketchup or similar thing. I do not measure out precise amounts. I eyeball it. 4 times the quantity of 105 or 501 to 1 times the quantity of the 601. Shake it up well. Originally, it was thought that it would not be useful after a day or so. I have proven that is not the case. It does thicken up in its consistency, but its performance remains unchanged. If you want to be more precise, get a shot glass or something to measure. Or eyeball it. It will work this way just fine. I've been doing it this way now for well over a year, maybe longer.
 
This DG cocktail has really got my interest going. Which as always seems to cause me to have more questions than answers.

Copied from the duragloss page it states.

105 Duragloss Total Performance Polish is so durable that it resists both acidic and alkaline cleaners. TPP #105 shields the paint through automatic car washes, acid rain and spot cleaners for up to a year.

111 Duragloss CCP (Clear Coat Polish) is a non-abrasive synthetic formula, which gives a "wet look" shine and durable protective coating. This product is durable to both acid and alkaline washes. This glossy shine resists acidic and alkaline cleaners to provide your vehicle with 6 months of protection

And the 501 states, Once applied, it forms a durable, protective shield that bonds to the surface that lasts wash after wash! Which indicates to me that it already has some amount of 601 in it. No claims are made concerning resisting acidic and alkaline cleaners which is understandable seeing how it is designed to be a marine protectant. Although there are people who do run there boats through hand car washes that do have the acid and alkaline soaps.

With the onset of winter around the corner touchless car washes are going to be a reality. Can anyone confirm the claims on durability? Is 105 only needed if you are trying to do a small amount of correction if not then the 111 could be used? Lastly what pad are you guys applying it with?
 
rzatch said:
And the 501 states, Once applied, it forms a durable, protective shield that bonds to the surface that lasts wash after wash!
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We do need to bear in mind that 501 is made for gelcoat/fiberglass and not necessarily for auto paint.
 
rzatch said:
This DG cocktail has really got my interest going. Which as always seems to cause me to have more questions than answers.

Copied from the duragloss page it states.

105 Duragloss Total Performance Polish is so durable that it resists both acidic and alkaline cleaners. TPP #105 shields the paint through automatic car washes, acid rain and spot cleaners for up to a year.

111 Duragloss CCP (Clear Coat Polish) is a non-abrasive synthetic formula, which gives a "wet look" shine and durable protective coating. This product is durable to both acid and alkaline washes. This glossy shine resists acidic and alkaline cleaners to provide your vehicle with 6 months of protection

And the 501 states, Once applied, it forms a durable, protective shield that bonds to the surface that lasts wash after wash! Which indicates to me that it already has some amount of 601 in it. No claims are made concerning resisting acidic and alkaline cleaners which is understandable seeing how it is designed to be a marine protectant. Although there are people who do run there boats through hand car washes that do have the acid and alkaline soaps.

With the onset of winter around the corner touchless car washes are going to be a reality. Can anyone confirm the claims on durability? Is 105 only needed if you are trying to do a small amount of correction if not then the 111 could be used? Lastly what pad are you guys applying it with?
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You're not gonna use 105 for any correction. Only for a sealant. I don't care what the description says, their use of polish vs sealant is confusing. If you need correction, you have 2 choices in the DG line: either 501 or 671. 671 is stronger and I recently used it with a Surbuff pad to good results. 501 works great with a white LCC or B & S pad.
For protection, 501 already has it in spades. Think about it. This is a product made for boats that dwell in the water 24/7. It's gotta be strong. But, the cool thing with the DG line is that you can layer it, so you can top it with 105 for even more protection. I have also topped those 2 with Collinite. I do that for my funeral home cars that get washed every day almost.
 
rzath - Last fall, i had only DG501 and Collinite 845 on hand... I applied the 501 and a few hours later applied 845 (at the time i did not know about cure-times and all that jazz)... My pickup truck was brand new, and i drove it A LOT... Lots of road grime and lots of touchless washes... When spring time came, my truck was still beading, to the point where i'd drive out of my housing complex and make a sharp turn and all the water would roll off the roof and hood. I noticed a little less beading on the rockers and doors (where most of the road spray occurs...

I think 501 is very durable, and with that said... this fall i applied 601/501... 601/105... 845.... and one week later some Aqu-wax.... I'm thinking i'll need multiple washes with Dawn in the spring to remove the wax! I will always be a DG guy :xyxthumbs:


to answer your last question, i applied DG by hand, using a Polish'n Pal with LC White pads and the 845 with LC red pad.
 
duck_commander said:
rzath - Last fall, i had only DG501 and Collinite 845 on hand... I applied the 501 and a few hours later applied 845 (at the time i did not know about cure-times and all that jazz)... My pickup truck was brand new, and i drove it A LOT... Lots of road grime and lots of touchless washes... When spring time came, my truck was still beading, to the point where i'd drive out of my housing complex and make a sharp turn and all the water would roll off the roof and hood. I noticed a little less beading on the rockers and doors (where most of the road spray occurs...

I think 501 is very durable, and with that said... this fall i applied 601/501... 601/105... 845.... and one week later some Aqu-wax.... I'm thinking i'll need multiple washes with Dawn in the spring to remove the wax! I will always be a DG guy :xyxthumbs:


to answer your last question, i applied DG by hand, using a Polish'n Pal with LC White pads and the 845 with LC red pad.
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Thank you so much for sharing your real world experience with 501. You have the "killer combo" on there now. Your rockers should hold up to the abuse this winter no problem. I'd like to hear from you on how they do if you don't mind. As far as removing it...very difficult! Richard Wright had posted how many steps it took him to do: it was astonishing!
 
Hellspawn said:
Can you perhaps hint me on actual amounts? ratios were not my best thing...
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Think of it this way.
You go into a candy store and ask for 1 of those and 3 of them.
You now have a mixture of 1:3

Or you ask for 1 of those and of them you now have a mixture of 1:4.

Almost all products that have ratios are stated with the product being first. As an example OPT says to mix their ID & GE 1:3. So if I were wanting 12 ozs of it I would put 3 ozs of product into 9 ozs of water. So what ever amount of product you use for a ratio of 1:3 you use 3 times that amount in water. So in the case of the DG cocktail if you were wanting 2 total ounces of 601/501 then you would put 1/4 oz 601 and 1 1/2 ozs of 501. Here is a link to a dilution guide that you should bookmark to help you out with whatever ratiio you are trying to come up with.

Enviro-One Dilution Calculator
 
That is great to hear on the durabilty. I have a brother inlaw that only uses touchless car washes. Works too many hours to hand wash his car much but likes a clean car. I used 845 on it this summer and he ate that off in no time. Now I just have to convince him to buy this which may be kind of hard as I told him the 845 would last.
 
I've heard one of the Duragloss guys mention doing 601/501 and 2-3 coats of 601/105. Which not only lasted through winter, but also handled touchless car washes.
 
2 comments:

1) I applied 1 layer of the DG 601/105 on our Regal last November and it lasted 9 months before the rockers and front bumper started to fail. Car was exposed to touchless wash about every 2 weeks through the winter and a weekend hand wash. 4 applications of Aqua Wax were applied late spring-summer.

2) It took me 2 1/2 hours, 1 round of Iron X, 2 rounds of Optimum Power Clean full strength, and around 7 ounces of CG CWG before the paint stopped beading/sheeting water. Remember, I only applied 1 layer of DG 601/105 combo, and 4 applications of Aqua Wax in the spring-summer.
 
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i remember reading your thread on that Mr. Right... Makes you wonder if it's worth even trying to remove in the spring and maybe just wait till summer begins to try and remove this deadly combo!

Richy - i will def let you know how everything holds up... and yea, i Mr. Right's thread a while back, and i'm not looking forward to trying to remove this stuff. HAHA... But with protection like that, it's just another guarantee that my new truck will still be looking like new years down the road. Oh, i don't think i stated it before, but i also put this combo on the chrome bumpers and rims. Oh, and did i meantion the door jams have this same combo??? I don't plan on waxing the door jams for another year HAHAHAHA...
 
rzatch said:
Is there anyplace that sells DG OTC?
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NAPA also seems to be a fav. That's where I get my DG products. Carquest too I think...

At NAPA here you tell them what you want and by end of the day it's in the store.
 
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