Oil Change Pump

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Has anyone tried a device like this:

http://www.pelaproducts.com/HowToUse1.htm

One oild change would just about cover the cost, but I'm not sure if it really works or not. I saw an ad somewhere that said Mercedes Benz dealers use this or a similar device to change oil in customer's cars.
 
Reddwarf said:
Has anyone tried a device like this:

http://www.pelaproducts.com/HowToUse1.htm

One oild change would just about cover the cost, but I'm not sure if it really works or not. I saw an ad somewhere that said Mercedes Benz dealers use this or a similar device to change oil in customer's cars.
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Hmmm......I might have to look into this one as changing oil is always a messy task. If you get one let us know how it works!
 
I have never seen anyone change the oil like that. I always change the oil in my cars myself. To me it's not a problem to unscrew the plug on the oil pan. On my Lambo there are 2 plugs, one on the oil sump and one on the engine. It takes 10 liters of oil. I wonder if you can even get all the old oil out using that method.
 
I have been using this MityVac version for the past year without problems. Well there was the one time the tube came off and made a bit of a mess on the floor but no big deal.
The first time I used it I crawled under and removed the drain plug after I removed all I could with the pump. Not one drop came out. I also measured the amount I removed and it was more than is posted online for the usual recommended oil fill amount.
It is just a little faster and cleaner than the old fashion way on my cars.
 
pt91 said:
I have been using this MityVac version for the past year without problems. Well there was the one time the tube came off and made a bit of a mess on the floor but no big deal.
The first time I used it I crawled under and removed the drain plug after I removed all I could with the pump. Not one drop came out. I also measured the amount I removed and it was more than is posted online for the usual recommended oil fill amount.
It is just a little faster and cleaner than the old fashion way on my cars.
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Thats interesting although it would not work on a car with a seperate oil sump. The dip stick is on the sump and there is an oil pump that pumps the oil to the engine. It would work getting the oil out of the sump but not the remaining oil in the engine.
 
Gary Sword said:
Thats interesting although it would not work on a car with a seperate oil sump. The dip stick is on the sump and there is an oil pump that pumps the oil to the engine. It would work getting the oil out of the sump but not the remaining oil in the engine.
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It also doesn't work on some model vehicles. I can't remember the list exactly but a few Fords and some others.
 
Gary Sword said:
Thats interesting although it would not work on a car with a seperate oil sump. The dip stick is on the sump and there is an oil pump that pumps the oil to the engine. It would work getting the oil out of the sump but not the remaining oil in the engine.
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I saw an ad for one that listed cars it doesn't work on and they specifically cited Porche becuase they use a sump pump. So I would think it would not work on the Lambo either. You car holds 10 liters?! That's a bunch. Do you use synthetic? My Jag manual says to use synthetic only and to change every 10K or year whichever is first.

PT91: Thanks for the tip. I'm glad to hear that it works. Your model looks like it has two lines coming out of it. Is one for pumping out the oil into a container?
 
PT91: Thanks for the tip. I'm glad to hear that it works. Your model looks like it has two lines coming out of it. Is one for pumping out the oil into a container?[/QUOTE]

Probably. You can reverse the flow to add a fluid but I have never used that function.
There is also an air driven version of this model that might be worth looking at. I think both can accept a brake bleeding kit which I might try out in the Spring.
 
Boat engines have used this method for decades so it must work well. I prefer the "crawl under and get dirty" method but both do the job.
 
Hum, don't some cars have magnetic tips on their drain plugs? I would think you would be forgoing the opportunity to check your plug for metal debris and such by doing this.

Of course, it isn't much of a problem in modern engines, but its better to check such things anyway.
 
Bought a similar model when I was around 14-15 years old
Though it does pump oil out, I found that it often didn't get ALL the oil from the crankcase. You will still have the filter with 1/2 qt. or more oil in it to remove.

If the engine is too warm, you can actually melt the guide tube that goes in the crankcase. Never had it happen, but that would be a major problem should it occur. I'm sure the newer ones use even more stout materials than mine had.

Once I saw the downsides of the machine, I found mine used more often for helping clean spills or to remove power steering and other fluids.
 
Reddwarf said:
I saw an ad for one that listed cars it doesn't work on and they specifically cited Porche becuase they use a sump pump. So I would think it would not work on the Lambo either. You car holds 10 liters?! That's a bunch. Do you use synthetic? My Jag manual says to use synthetic only and to change every 10K or year whichever is first.
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I use synthetic is all of my cars. In the Lambo I use AGIP per specs and Mobil 1 in my other cars. My viper takes 10 quarts so I go through a lot of oil.
 
PRB said:
Bought a similar model when I was around 14-15 years old
Though it does pump oil out, I found that it often didn't get ALL the oil from the crankcase. You will still have the filter with 1/2 qt. or more oil in it to remove.

If the engine is too warm, you can actually melt the guide tube that goes in the crankcase. Never had it happen, but that would be a major problem should it occur. I'm sure the newer ones use even more stout materials than mine had.

Once I saw the downsides of the machine, I found mine used more often for helping clean spills or to remove power steering and other fluids.
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I was thinking about the oil filter as well. I'd still have to go under the car to change the oilf filter, so the pump wouldn't really make the job any easier. Unless perhaps you could reach the oil filter from the top.
 
Reddwarf said:
I was thinking about the oil filter as well. I'd still have to go under the car to change the oilf filter, so the pump wouldn't really make the job any easier. Unless perhaps you could reach the oil filter from the top.
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That's what I was thinking.
 
On my daily driver I can easily reach the filter from the top so this isn't an issue.
On the NSX I had to take off rear passenger tire to access the filter!
 
pt91 said:
On my daily driver I can easily reach the filter from the top so this isn't an issue.
On the NSX I had to take off rear passenger tire to access the filter!
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That sounds like a real pain. But worth for such a nice car! What year is your NSX? Are there pictures of it in the AG Gallery?
 
Reddwarf said:
That sounds like a real pain. But worth for such a nice car! What year is your NSX? Are there pictures of it in the AG Gallery?
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I sold my 91 last year. I think there are pictures in my gallery. If not I hv the same username on nsxprime and there are a lot of photos there.
The car had 37k miles on it when I sold it. I used WG, RMG and souveran exclusively on the NSX.
 
paul34 said:
Hum, don't some cars have magnetic tips on their drain plugs? I would think you would be forgoing the opportunity to check your plug for metal debris and such by doing this.

Of course, it isn't much of a problem in modern engines, but its better to check such things anyway.
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Yes, they do! And that is why they have them to catch the metal debris! To me this method is ridiculous. Oil is meant to be be drained at the bottom of oil pan so you can get "a majority" of the crap, shavings, pieces, gunk, etc. out of the vehicle. However, I don't have any problems since I use nothing but the best...Redline oils/fluids (full synthetic on ALL my truck) oil, trans, rear-end, clutch, brake, etc.!) and K & N filters. They are some of the top rated in the industry! :righton: :applause:
 
turbos17 said:
Yes, they do! And that is why they have them to catch the metal debris! To me this method is ridiculous. Oil is meant to be be drained at the bottom of oil pan so you can get "a majority" of the crap, shavings, pieces, gunk, etc. out of the vehicle. However, I don't have any problems since I use nothing but the best...Redline oils/fluids (full synthetic on ALL my truck) oil, trans, rear-end, clutch, brake, etc.!) and K & N filters. They are some of the top rated in the industry! :righton: :applause:
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I use a K&N air filter. Do you use the the K&N oil filter? How does it perform? Does it last longer than others?
 
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