ONR idea - Is this possible?

[Zoso67]

First off, hello from Baltimore! I just joined earlier today.

After spending alot of time reading about ONR on this and other forums, I ordered a bottle and am anxious to try it out, especially with all the success stories I've read about.
I have an idea that I haven't seen discussed yet (I think).
I was planning on having a 2 gallon bucket of ONR with a rag soaking in it on hand at all times in my garage. I could then do spot cleaning as needed without having to mix up a 2 gallon solution everytime. The plan would be to replace this solution every couple of weeks or as needed with heavier use.
Can ONR be used in this manner? Is this a good idea?

Also, what is the difference between using Meguiar's UQD and using ONR as a quick detailer (mixed in a spray bottle per the QD ratio). My thoughts are that UQD is good for lighter dust and finger prints and would leave a more polished look. The ONR (QD ratio) could be used for slightly heavier dirt and grime but would leave a less polished look than UQD would.

What is everyone's thoughts?

 

[rakkvet]

ONR mixed as a quick detailer in my experience is just as good if not better than a lot of the quick detailers on the market. Plus it is a lot cheaper when you dilute it and make your own. I think the shine is great too. Just my $.02

Tim

 

[Emile]

Hi, welcome to the forum.

A lot of ONR users keep a bucket of ONR for a week at a time. I wouldn't go longer than a week, but I have no scientific explanation behind this...it's just my comfort level.

ONR as a QD will work like a waterless wash/QD. The look it provides is neutral and is really only good to use as a drying aid to leave the paint glossy or as a waterless wash in between full rinseless washes/traditional car washes. I turn to a real QD or spray wax/spray sealant to refresh the gloss and provide additional paint protection after a car wash.

Megs UQD is excellent for removing light dust in between washes and leaves behind some durable protection that will last for a couple of weeks. Using ONR at QD strength will not provide the same lasting protection as UQD.

I hope this answers your questions.

 

[Rsurfer]

First off, hello from Baltimore! I just joined earlier today.

After spending alot of time reading about ONR on this and other forums, I ordered a bottle and am anxious to try it out, especially with all the success stories I've read about.
I have an idea that I haven't seen discussed yet (I think).
I was planning on having a 2 gallon bucket of ONR with a rag soaking in it on hand at all times in my garage. I could then do spot cleaning as needed without having to mix up a 2 gallon solution everytime. The plan would be to replace this solution every couple of weeks or as needed with heavier use.
Can ONR be used in this manner? Is this a good idea?

Also, what is the difference between using Meguiar's UQD and using ONR as a quick detailer (mixed in a spray bottle per the QD ratio). My thoughts are that UQD is good for lighter dust and finger prints and would leave a more polished look. The ONR (QD ratio) could be used for slightly heavier dirt and grime but would leave a less polished look than UQD would.

What is everyone's thoughts?

First of welcome to the forum. Good idea, just be sure to use a grit guard on the bottom of your bucket (5 gallons), but you can always just mix 2-3 gallons. ONR is a good QD, but there are better for gloss and slickness.

 

[feslope]

I was planning on having a 2 gallon bucket of ONR with a rag soaking in it on hand at all times in my garage. I could then do spot cleaning as needed without having to mix up a 2 gallon solution everytime.

First of all Tim, welcome to AG. Spend some time here, lots of good info.

Although a good idea I would watch the reality. Chemicals+water in an open bucket with dirt being added over time sounds to me like an ideal host for a stinky mess. I would be concerned about mold and bacteria. If you try it let us know how it goes.

ONR mixed as a quick detailer in my experience is just as good if not better than a lot of the quick detailers on the market. Plus it is a lot cheaper when you dilute it and make your own. I think the shine is great too. Just my $.02
Tim

Its a great QD. I have a one gallon pressure sprayer that I mix it into. Keep your sprayer and some microfiber in your car, you will always be ready for a quick clean up. If you keep a sprayer in your car I would suggest you let the pressure out. They typically don't have lock-outs and its amazing how often you will grab it by the trigger.:buffing:

 

[Zoso67]

A lot of ONR users keep a bucket of ONR for a week at a time. I wouldn't go longer than a week, but I have no scientific explanation behind this...it's just my comfort level.

I probably wouldn't go longer than a week if using frequently, but I figure if I use it as a touch up on certain areas, as needed, every couple of days, it might make it an extra week or two.

Although a good idea I would watch the reality. Chemicals+water in an open bucket with dirt being added over time sounds to me like an ideal host for a stinky mess. I would be concerned about mold and bacteria. If you try it let us know how it goes.

Good point. Besides the issues you mentioned, I wouldn't want to introduce swirls to the paint by using a solution that might become saturated with dirt particles from previous uses. I guess I'll try my idea and see how it goes.

Its a great QD. I have a one gallon pressure sprayer that I mix it into. Keep your sprayer and some microfiber in your car, you will always be ready for a quick clean up. If you keep a sprayer in your car I would suggest you let the pressure out. They typically don't have lock-outs and its amazing how often you will grab it by the trigger.

Have you used this method on anything dirtier than fingerprints or dust? It rained here for the past couple of days and I'm wondering if I could use this "waterless" method to remove the water spots and light grime on my car. I'm concerned that anything worse than light dust may introduce swirls/scratches to the paint.
Of course if my idea of keeping a bucket of ONR mix around for a week or two works, I guess I don't need to worry about this waterless method.

 

[feslope]

Have you used this method on anything dirtier than fingerprints or dust? Of course if my idea of keeping a bucket of ONR mix around for a week or two works, I guess I don't need to worry about this waterless method.

No I have not. Only dust, pollen and fingerprints. I would suggest ONR in a pressure sprayer only in addition to another wash method. I have been known to be heading somewhere a little ahead of schedule and make a quick stop in a parking lot close to my destination for a "QD" People actually seem to notice.:cruisin:

 

[Shane731]

Instead of keeping ONR sitting around in a bucket, I'd just keep a waterless wash like Optimum Opti-Clean on hand.

 

[Chris Thomas]

Instead of keeping ONR sitting around in a bucket, I'd just keep a waterless wash like Optimum Opti-Clean on hand.

:iagree:

...but, if you do decide to keep one around, buy a gamma seal lid for your bucket. It will keep unwanted debris from the mix.

 

[Rob T]

Instead of keeping ONR sitting around in a bucket, I'd just keep a waterless wash like Optimum Opti-Clean on hand.

I agree.

Shane, I got my Opti-Clean a couple of days ago, and I tried it on the roof of my red HHR after it had been through a rain storm (and had since dried). It was plenty dirty, so I thought it would be a good test. It worked like a charm! Didn't notice any marring either.

The only thing I didn't like was how many MF towels I had to use to get the roof done..the entire vehicle would have used up a ton of towels. Then again, this would not be my normal use for it either.

 

[Wills.WindowsAndWheels]

My thoughts exactly on buying or having some sort of a lid for the bucket of water...then no dirt is going to find its way into it...and if you still use the 2 bucket method when you DO wash...your water should stay fairly clean for a week or 2....maybe more depending on how bad your ride gets.

I was VERY skeptical of ONR...it just felt so 'wrong' not to rinse the car off or not have a hose pulled out! But i'll confess...I think it did a very good job. I added a little extra solution than the 1 oz...but thats just me...and it was super super slick...i felt no dragging at all.
And the TIME that I saved not having to..pull out the hose, hose it all down...wash a section/rinse a section...repeat 8 times...then blow dry the water out and then dry the whole thign WHILE trying to beat the heat from drying everything up (even in the shade, in Az...its still hot as hell and water dries fast)...that made it all worth it to me.

Worked great as a clay lube as well...and I might even adopt your idea of having a bucket ready at all times rops:...I say go for it I think it'll work like a charm

 

[Old Tiger]

:iagree:

...but, if you do decide to keep one around, buy a gamma seal lid for your bucket. It will keep unwanted debris from the mix.

GReat point. Gamma Seals take a 5 gallon bucket to another level. I can sit my fat a@@ on a gamma seal with no worries. Plus they seal water tight!

 

[CEE DOG]

Welcome!
For removing dirt: Using OOC from a spray bottle is a much better idea then ONR from a spray bottle. In fact unless it's for clay lube I'll rarely use ONR in a spray bottle now that OOC is available.

Check out this link for a review of OOC: http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/product-reviews/28895-review-optimum-opti-clean.html

On page 3 of that link (I believe post #29) Dr. G answers some questions that may aid in your choice of when you will use which product.

As far as how long to keep the bucket of ONR if that's what you choose. It's not recommend to be kept for more then 1 week.

Instead of keeping ONR sitting around in a bucket, I'd just keep a waterless wash like Optimum Opti-Clean on hand.

:iagree:

...but, if you do decide to keep one around, buy a gamma seal lid for your bucket. It will keep unwanted debris from the mix.

:iagree:

 

[DARK HORSE]

:whs::goodpost:

 

[CEE DOG]

Check out this link for a review of OOC: http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/product-reviews/28895-review-optimum-opti-clean.html

On page 3 of that link (I believe post #29) Dr. G answers some questions that may aid in your choice of when you will use which product.

Here is the 1st Q&A from that post #29:

Me:
For what reason would someone not just use ONR in the place of OOC for the purpose of cleaning paint. What I mean is: When a car is at the stage where OOC would be a good solution for cleaning, why not use ONR in a spray bottle and MF towels to achieve the same result?

Dr. G:
"No Rinse used as a quick detailer works fine for a car with light dust while Opti-Clean can be used on a car with several days of build up. The reason is that Opti-Clean contains the same polymers in No Rinse that encapsulate dirt but at a much higher concentration than No Rinse QD as well as other polymers not used in No rinse that offer more lubricity and gloss."

 

[Old Tiger]

Opti Clean or DP Waterless or the new Ultima or PB S&W are tailor made for spot cleaning and you can leave a 4 or 8 ounce pump spray and an MF in a ziplock in your glove box or trunk. Much more convenient to me.

 

[DARK HORSE]

Opti Clean or DP Waterless or the new Ultima or PB S&W are tailor made for spot cleaning and you can leave a 4 or 8 ounce pump spray and an MF in a ziplock in your glove box or trunk. Much more convenient to me.

:iagree:Jim, I do this as well. Mostly to remove fresh bird bombs when I can't get home right away:dblthumb2:

 

[CEE DOG]

Opti Clean or DP Waterless or the new Ultima or PB S&W are tailor made for spot cleaning and you can leave a 4 or 8 ounce pump spray and an MF in a ziplock in your glove box or trunk. Much more convenient to me.

:iagree:Jim, I do this as well. Mostly to remove fresh bird bombs when I can't get home right away:dblthumb2:

That makes 2 of us. I've used my OOC every morning and evening this week (directly after getting to work or back home). Takes those fresh bugs right off!

 

[Zoso67]

Welcome!
For removing dirt: Using OOC from a spray bottle is a much better idea then ONR from a spray bottle. In fact unless it's for clay lube I'll rarely use ONR in a spray bottle now that OOC is available.

Check out this link for a review of OOC: http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/product-reviews/28895-review-optimum-opti-clean.html

On page 3 of that link (I believe post #29) Dr. G answers some questions that may aid in your choice of when you will use which product.

Thanks for the advice and info, it seems that OOC is exactly what I want for spot cleaning my car. Seeks like alot of other posters have had success with it. I'm going to order some now. I'll use the ONR then for washing the entire car.