Opinions on which Carnauba Wax

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I am considering Dodo Juice Supernatural wax. In the past, the carnauba's I have used include Pinnacle Souveran paste, Poor Boys Natty's Blue Paste and Blackfire Midnight Sun. I found Souveran to look the best but had the worst longevity. How would you compare Dodo Supernatural to any of these in terms of longevity and shine? I have a relatively new black car and I live in South Florida.

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SN has a great natural shine to it, will last way longer then Souveran but will not give the warm look.
 
Souveran has a glow and depth not seen in most other waxes. SN is a fine wax but not as easy to remove as Souveran and can sweat meaning a rebuff the next day. I might suggest an alternative. How about sample pots of SN and Fuzion ??? Fuzion is quite nice and more durable and quite pleasing even on blacks.
 
You might consider Meguiars M26 or Gold Class Carnauba Wax. The Gold Class has some polishing oils in it that give a rich wet looking shine.
 
I don't think you will be at all disappointed with Fuzion. Its my go to
 
AeroCleanse said:
Go with Supernatural, you won't be disappointed!
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Does the sweating not bother you after paying that price? Or do you not see this issue in your area? I haven't used it yet myself but have had a couple people who's opinions I respect tell me this is the case. I'll be putting some on for myself soon.
 
what is more important to you? looks or durability?
 
CEE DOG said:
Does the sweating not bother you after paying that price? Or do you not see this issue in your area? I haven't used it yet myself but have had a couple people who's opinions I respect tell me this is the case. I'll be putting some on for myself soon.
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I veered away from the suggested directions and haven't had a problem since. I now apply it and give it maybe 5 min to set, then buff it off. I believe the directions state to let it sit for about 20 min meaning fully dried. Since it is not fully dried it is easier to remove and buff. I have not seen any change in duribility, but then again I wax my car every 3 weeks.
 
I love Fuzion, but I am sure there are a lot of other great waxes.
 
CEE DOG said:
Does the sweating not bother you after paying that price? Or do you not see this issue in your area? I haven't used it yet myself but have had a couple people who's opinions I respect tell me this is the case. I'll be putting some on for myself soon.
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Haven't ever seen it sweating.
 
I am not familiar with the sweating term. I know what sweating is as a human and the use of such a term with regards to condensation. How does a carnauba wax sweat? Does it haze over again or?
 
04Si said:
I am not familiar with the sweating term. I know what sweating is as a human and the use of such a term with regards to condensation. How does a carnauba wax sweat? Does it haze over again or?
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When you buff it off everything looks gone. Then the next day you will see the wax re-appear in various spots needing to be buffed again.
 
loudog2 said:
When you buff it off everything looks gone. Then the next day you will see the wax re-appear in various spots needing to be buffed again.
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Thanks for the explanation. Then i have experienced sweating b4. I used to get that with P21S. I just ordered some Skull Candy. Hope it does not sweat like SN.
 
You've listed some great products but don't limit yourself, have you ever considered trying Collinite 845?

Collinite Liquid Insulator Wax, for example, is one of the finest liquid carnauba waxes you can buy. It has the shine and wetness of carnauba but its longevity is more like a paint sealant. You can expect up to 5 months of protection and incredible water-beading, even on non-garaged vehicles.

I have to say it's probably the best wax for the dollar that I've ever used...
 
CEE DOG said:
Does the sweating not bother you after paying that price? Or do you not see this issue in your area? I haven't used it yet myself but have had a couple people who's opinions I respect tell me this is the case. I'll be putting some on for myself soon.
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I haven't used Supernatural myself, but I have read several threads about the problem of sweating that some Supernatural users experience. I gather that this can sometimes be a problem with high percentage carnauba waxes. Dom Colbeck of Dodo offers this counsel (pulled from a couple of Detailing World threads):

"Buffing SN twice is always a good technique as well. You need a couple of clean microfibres to really do it justice. If you overapply and underbuff (or buff too early and spread wet residue with the buffing cloth) then it can be smeary/hologrammy. Thinness of layers, longer curing (15-20mins sounds fine) and careful buffing (with a second buffing 40 mins later) is the key."

"Spread thinly, allow longer to cure than normal - between 15-40 mins depending on where you are in the world... buff it then buff again later with another clean cloth (after another lot of curing time). It doesn't like 'leaving the paint' and if not removed fully, you could get oil holograms."

"Allow Supernatural to fully cure in thin layers, maybe leave 30 mins to an hour to fully cure before buffing. Then buff carefully, refolding the microfibre regularly. When it looks like it has been buffed, buff once again. (The oils are difficult to remove from the paint, which is a side effect of what makes it work well. Something like Diamond White is a bit more user friendly as it is not such a specialist wax.)"

Good luck!
 
04Si said:
I am not familiar with the sweating term. I know what sweating is as a human and the use of such a term with regards to condensation. How does a carnauba wax sweat? Does it haze over again or?
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Here's an explanation of wax sweating that I found over at Detailing World:

'To explain "sweating" - This occurs when a wax is removed prematurely. The solvents and oils that are used to help emulsify the wax have not fully gassed, therefore they're still in the wax. When you remove "part" of the wax, you're also removing some of the ingredients that assist in the curing process. So once it's removed prematurely the oils inside don't dry like they normally would, which later leads to them sort of "leaking out" of the wax and residing on the surface of the car instead of evaporating. Hence the "streaky" surface.'

I can't vouch for its scientific accuracy, but it makes sense to me. Interestingly, it's the more expensive, high carnauba waxes, like Supernatural or the Zymol line, that seem to be vulnerable to wax holograms. I experienced sweating once with SwissVax Smaragd. One doesn't often read about sweating be a problem with waxes that cost under a $100, perhaps because of the more volatile solvents that are used. :confused:
 
Souveran and Supernatural give opposite looks. SN will brighten the paint and give more of a reflective look, while Souveran will darken the paint and give a warm, deep, wet look. What color is your car?
 
07 z-oh-6 said:
Souveran and Supernatural give opposite looks. SN will brighten the paint and give more of a reflective look, while Souveran will darken the paint and give a warm, deep, wet look. What color is your car?
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:iagree:

I think thats why I personally gravitate more towards Hard Candy from them.
 
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