OPTI Coat pro/pro plus with hard water spot

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A month ago I got the OPTI coat pro and pro plus done to my vehicle and now I got hard water spots.

I tried the distilled vinegar trick but the water spot is still there with no result.

How do I remove the hard water spot without damaging the coating?:dunno:

Product and/or technique is greatly appreciated
 
Oh Opti Coat Pro has no problems.
The best coating in the world!
Dr. G the automotive chemist made the product.
I suggest calling him....For the answer about his super Pro product.
 
Car pro Spotless shouldn't be any problem. I just used it on a car coated with C1/EXO with no issues.
 
Opti Coat Pro comes with a warranty, Please read what must be done to keep valid.
I understand other manufactures have products that cure the problem. Have any problem and you will be on your own, with no warranty.

So I say call Dr. G and see what the Opti Coat Pro Chemist recommends.

Other side of the coin go for it and gamble...
 
How would I call Dr. G?
The hard water was introduced from rinsing the truck after the application.
I the mean time I have ordered Optimum MDR Mineral Deposit Remover.
 
Joeguam said:
How would I call Dr. G?
The hard water was introduced from rinsing the truck after the application.
I the mean time I have ordered Optimum MDR Mineral Deposit Remover.
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Contact the installer who applied your coating.
 
I did contact the OPTI COAT detailer. The distilled vinegar was suggested first but of course it did not work. I have ordered the Optimum MDR Mineral Deposit Remover as the next recommended step (the OPTICOAT dealer) to remove the hard water spot.
I did view OPTICOAT forum but it seems the participation/update/answer questions so I did not bother.

I appreciate all the help here thus far.
So does each OPTICOAT authorized detailor have diffrent methods or should all be speaking and doing the same things (recommendations/techniques/warranties/care etc).
 
Detail-Impressions said:
Oh Opti Coat Pro has no problems.
The best coating in the world!
Dr. G the automotive chemist made the product.
I suggest calling him....For the answer about his super Pro product.
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Are you being serious or is there sarcasm here? Would like to know more about your thoughts on this product!
 
7.3powerstroke said:
Are you being serious or is there sarcasm here? Would like to know more about your thoughts on this product!
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i suspect sarcasm.

Joeguam said:
A month ago I got the OPTI coat pro and pro plus done to my vehicle and now I got hard water spots.

I tried the distilled vinegar trick but the water spot is still there with no result.

How do I remove the hard water spot without damaging the coating?:dunno:

Product and/or technique is greatly appreciated
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who installed it? where are you located?

yes, they should all have the same general answers, though the products can vary. while OPT obviously designs everything as a system, many detailers use other brand products for one reason or another. something like vinegar could be suggested but that is so mild that they should know that if vinegar is going to remove it, it would likely not stay on the coating in the first place. so, MDR would be the first stop, then a mild chemical cleaner polish like Poli-Seal as an alternative/more aggressive step. honestly, something is wrong if you need anything past that, unless you have scratched the coating or chipped the paint and need to remove/replace.

i have yet to have ANYTHING truly etch by itself into cured Pro and the most aggressive i've had to get for anything is a couple passes with Poli-Seal. that includes certain summer bug guts that have baked, bird doo stains from sea gull poop sitting on sun baked panels in the middle of the summer or water spots. however, every area is different and the environmental exposures follow suit.

i'm curious, where is the water coming from?
 
I never used, nor seen an Opti Coat Pro coated car. However, I believe it is a syrup-style, thick, strong coating system, similar to Modesta or Echelon, which I've seen.

The problem with this type of coatings is the curing time, and the curing procedures.

If the temperature was hot when the car got coated, like 85F and above (and a dry weather), the installer could get away with the aid of an infrared lamp to properly cure it.

It is recommended an infrared lamp for curing thick coating systems, since they are like a resin, and takes a long time to dry it up.

I think the water spot problem was an unlucky combination of a not fully cured coating and a heavy mineral water deposit.

If it was the case, probably nothing will completely remove the water spots besides polishing. It is permanently etched to the coating.

I would go back to the installer and relate the problem to him, to seemif he can solve the problem.
 
There was no problem during the application of the coating. My truck was put in a baking booth for about an hour after the coating and looked good.
The hard water happened with tap water (grass sprinkler system and strong winds and then I rinsed the truck after the application) being introduced to the panel and I want to remove the hard water spot that is on top of the coat.

builthatch. Thanks and of course baby steps to remove the water spot was the direction I and the installer wanted to take. If I thought it was a installer problem I would have had the vehicle in the shop that did the coating. There are no scratched or chipped of the coating.
 
Joeguam said:
There was no problem during the application of the coating. My truck was put in a baking booth for about an hour after the coating and looked good.
The hard water happened with tap water (grass sprinkler system and strong winds and then I rinsed the truck after the application) being introduced to the panel and I want to remove the hard water spot that is on top of the coat.

builthatch. Thanks and of course baby steps to remove the water spot was the direction I and the installer wanted to take. If I thought it was a installer problem I would have had the vehicle in the shop that did the coating. There are no scratched or chipped of the coating.
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ahh ok.

so yeah, MDR first. check work after first application, used as prescribed on the bottle. if no results, try multiple applications. if it doesn't help, then Poli-Seal with a light cut or even no cut pad. do a test spot with a couple passes and check results.

if, for some odd reason, you need to get even more aggressive, i can't imagine what this water would have done to your original clear coat if it wasn't coated. however, as mentioned, my coated Q5 has been coated for more than a year and is outside all day, every day and to date nothing has etched the coating. nothing. so, i'm hopeful you will resolve this issue without much problem.
 
So I got work with the Optimum MDR. I manually applied(elbow grease) the MDR with a pad. It took me almost 20 minutes to remove a 6"x6" area. There was no fun in the evolution.

My next question is that now that I know the MDR can work should I use the DA polisher with a pad to remove the water spot to save time.
Quite honestly and at this point the cost (OPTI PRO PLUS) does not out weight the looks but I still want it to protect in the duration until I get it redone.
Please advise
 
Joeguam said:
So I got work with the Optimum MDR. I manually applied(elbow grease) the MDR with a pad. It took me almost 20 minutes to remove a 6"x6" area. There was no fun in the evolution.

My next question is that now that I know the MDR can work should I use the DA polisher with a pad to remove the water spot to save time.
Quite honestly and at this point the cost (OPTI PRO PLUS) does not out weight the looks but I still want it to protect in the duration until I get it redone.
Please advise
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good! glad it worked. hmm...are you letting the MDR dwell? your process sounds too arduous. you should be able to adjust the dwell time so you can just work it a little bit with a primed pad and then wipe it off and the spots will be gone. there isn't an "abrasive" action working here with MDR, it's purely dissolving the deposits with the acid. so, i don't see any advantage to a DA here. wipe it on, spread it around...let it dwell 2/3/4x as long as you were, gauge progress and wipe off...sometimes wiping off with a waterless wash or something like that can help remove the smearing that occurs.

it might be worth doing a test spot with Poli-Seal to see if you can simply do a pass with that and a DA and remove these topical spots...but MDR still seems way easier of an option.

good luck. glad you got them out. whatever caused those spots would have surely smoked your clear coat so it's good you had a robust coating installed.
 
have you been in contact with the detailer that put the coating on? Or is he saying that this is your problem?
 
Use MDR on a soft pad on D/A Its always done well for me. And saves your arm
 
7.3powerstroke said:
Are you being serious or is there sarcasm here? Would like to know more about your thoughts on this product!
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Serious, ask the Opti Pro installers...."
5 year warranty applies to cars that are less than 6 model years old.
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Optimum Polymer Technologies is dedicated to making your vehicle shine through modern polymers and advanced surface-friendly formulas.We have developed a line of car care products that prolong the beauty of your vehicle with the latest innovations in surface care.
Used and endorsed by auto experts and weekend detailers alike, OPT products are easy to apply and actually optimize water conservation, all in part to preserve the environment. Independent studies have shown that the polymer technology used to create Optimum Car Care Products such as our waxes, washes, and polishes has significantly decreased both the time and effort to detail a vehicle.
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Truth is all coatings water spot, no matter what the manufactures states. Coating are great on some cars, not all as they are sold as a better the sealant/wax. Coatings still swirl, scratch its not a cure all product. As we see every coating manufacture has a water spot remover... Now we have coatings but need toppers to protect the coating and improve looks.



Look at the new coatings being offered after SEMA they just keep growing in manufactures. USA coatings are just in infancy.
 
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