Opti Seal First Review

[ScottB]

Scott: I bet you wouldn't see much streaking with a foam pad. For sealants and wax, or any LSP for that matter, I like to use foam pad over cotton ones. I like cotton on first step type applications, as you can clean, and work the product better than you can with foam...
Goose-

I seriously doubt pad choice was the issue. I used ZCS in the same fashion as they included a terry-cloth applicator with theres. After speaking with Anthony I suspect I somehow got the sample version versus the release. I hope to have this repaired by weekend.

 

[k20z3kid]

The Alcohol is probably just a carrier and drying agent....alot of QD have it in it also..they just add a nice smell to it...the alc will flash faster giving a fast dry time


Al

but doesnt alcohol strip sealants and waxes? thats one thing that always confused me about QD sprays and now with opti-seal.

 

[BILL]

I seriously doubt pad choice was the issue. I used ZCS in the same fashion as they included a terry-cloth applicator with theres. After speaking with Anthony I suspect I somehow got the sample version versus the release. I hope to have this repaired by weekend.

quote: RON HARRIS

QUESTION:


With opti-seal are there going to be any restrictions on what kind of applicator to use or if it should be never washed (like the condtions that CS requires)? Mike...

ANSWER:

We have found the 2 foam applicators that will be supplied to be the best.
I have had many uses from the same one. I usualy rinse it out with dish soap and water.
You Must let it dry fully before you use it again.

The cotton ones sold by the competition don't apply the product evenly from
what we have found.

 

[Al-53]

but doesnt alcohol strip sealants and waxes? thats one thing that always confused me about QD sprays and now with opti-seal.

The Alc content is very low....3-5 % in Qd's...rest is water and product..I would think the Alc content in OS is low also....just you smell it cause it is not perfumed to smell like peaches ..grapes...watermelon...lol

Al

 

[dennish]

How's the beading like of the OS when compared to carnauba wax (tight beading) or a sealant (slightly bigger beads)?
I want to order some -possibly tonight- I will mainly be using this over paint sealants more than anything else
Scott: I bet you wouldn't see much streaking with a foam pad. For sealants and wax, or any LSP for that matter, I like to use foam pad over cotton ones. I like cotton on first step type applications, as you can clean, and work the product better than you can with foam...
Goose-

Hey Goose....
I would say that Opti-Seal beads on par with a high quality sealant - not really better or worse. I do like the way it goes on and the way it looks - lot like 105 or Z5 in my eyes. I have put it on chrome, black trim on the mini pictured above, windshield wiper arms with out any problems what so ever. Unless you have polish on your trim then Opti-Seal repels Back-to-Black. I would say OS is going to be a hit and there is still another WOWA due out in May. I will probably be using Nuba on my show cars just to get that last 5% but Opti-Seal over Poli-Seal on my daily drivers just because it is easy. I have tried to get this stuff to steak and haven't had any problems.

 

[Anthony Orosco]

Over time you may notice the IPA smell to slowly dissipate but as noted there are no perfumes or scents within Opti-Seal or most of the Optimum products.

I have had no streaking issues with OptiSeal either....at least not the finished version, and I'm puzzled when people do have it so I stack it up to operator error or some other factor like a contaminate along the way...which can be a drip of water seeping out of the molding or light. Make sure surface is completely dry before applying OptiSeal.

Anthony

 

[BILL]

Over time you may notice the IPA smell to slowly dissipate but as noted there are no perfumes or scents within Opti-Seal or most of the Optimum products.

I have had no streaking issues with OptiSeal either....at least not the finished version, and I'm puzzled when people do have it so I stack it up to operator error or some other factor like a contaminate along the way...which can be a drip of water seeping out of the molding or light. Make sure surface is completely dry before applying OptiSeal.

Anthony

AND DUST FREE IF POSSIBLE.......

 

[Junebug]

Question for ya'll - how does it compare to AW?

 

[BILL]

Question for ya'll - how does it compare to AW?

WHATS AW???

 

[Al-53]

WHATS AW???

Aquawax...lol....

 

[BILL]

Aquawax...lol....

I THOUGHT SO, BUT WAS LOOKING AT SEALERS THANKS

 

[Mike T]

Aquawax is a form of a sealer

 

[BILL]

Aquawax is a form of a sealer

Ahhhhhhhh thanks......

 

[dengood1]

Over time you may notice the IPA smell to slowly dissipate but as noted there are no perfumes or scents within Opti-Seal or most of the Optimum products.

I have had no streaking issues with OptiSeal either....at least not the finished version, and I'm puzzled when people do have it so I stack it up to operator error or some other factor like a contaminate along the way...which can be a drip of water seeping out of the molding or light. Make sure surface is completely dry before applying OptiSeal.

Anthony

Anthony, I take a little offense to this as I'm sure Scott (Killr) does too. My application of this product was to the "T", so NO it's not operator error. I applied VERY lightly, maybe one spritz for 1/2 the hood of my Taurus and I got streaking, especially where I stopped with the foam applicator. I MAY have used 8 sprays for the entire vehicle. I'm sorry, but it does streak on my car whether anyone likes that outcome or not----I'm not making it up nor am I applying it incorrectly. My car was perfectly clean and perfectly dry, with absolutely no dust, sitting in my garage for the past 5 days after washing and applying Souveran. I don't know what else to say except you guys that didn't have slight streaking----that's awesome!. It's not that big of a deal because it's so easy to correct with a QD if you do get SLIGHT streaking . I agree, Opti-Seal IS an awesome product and looks very nice and wet, but obviously some people(very few) will get streaking, and very slight at that-----not much at all, but it does exist. It's ease of application could not be easier! I used the same pad to apply it as Justin did in his review. From the looks of his bottle though, it looks like he used A LOT more than I did

Opti-Seal is everything it says it is and looks as everyone says it does in their reviews-----it really is a very nice product!

 

[Anthony Orosco]

My comment was not meant to offend nor directed at anyone person but rather it was meant to mean that something in the application caused the streaking. As you noted streaking can occur at the end of the application and many times at the starting point.

Try this next time you apply....do an area without lifting up on the sponge, just make one continuous overlapping pass until the product is almost all gone and compare the results.

I have noticed that at times during the beta testing when ever I would lift the pad and then re-start at another area I would get some slight streaks, but not every time. As you noted though the streaksare very easy to take care off.

Anthony

 

[Waxmax]

Maybe the streaking had to due with using it over Souveran? Ron on the Optimum Forum said that carnauba would be dissolved and resurface on the top....maybe that's some of the carnauba interacting with OS?

 

[BILL]

QUOTE:


have noticed that at times during the beta testing when ever I would lift the pad and then re-start at another area I would get some slight streaks, but not every time. As you noted though the streaksare very easy to take care off.

ANTHONY: Any QDer will remove the streaks.......then re-appy O.S.??

 

[ScottB]

Simply put ... when used side by side in the same fashion as Zaino CS, the Opti-seal is a much more finicky product. Using the same type of applicator, same amount, and on a car washed in the same manner there should have been no percievable difference other than outcome at best. (glossier, more reflective). The streaking on OS was considered excessive.

While AG is surely not happy that I called foul on this new product, it is Optimum and Anthony as a distributor that has more to lose. What you wont see is me challenging Optimum and asking them if they rushed the product to market once they saw CS arrived, but thats kinda what your doing to a end user when pointing the finger and blaming the operator. (lets figure out what the streaking factor is, that way we can warn and help others)

What I will offer in closing is this, I plan on using it again, and yes another bottle. If its me, then I will be glad to blame the user, but if its not, well I am going to report this also. I reread all posts and went to Anthony for comment, as I want to understand how it was intended to be used. Stay tuned !

 

[dengood1]

My comment was not meant to offend nor directed at anyone person but rather it was meant to mean that something in the application caused the streaking. As you noted streaking can occur at the end of the application and many times at the starting point.

Try this next time you apply....do an area without lifting up on the sponge, just make one continuous overlapping pass until the product is almost all gone and compare the results.

I have noticed that at times during the beta testing when ever I would lift the pad and then re-start at another area I would get some slight streaks, but not every time. As you noted though the streaksare very easy to take care off.

Anthony

No problem Anthony, trust me--I want it to work perfectly! Sure, there is "something" in the application.....but what? Cause it sure as hell isn't the user! Optimum put the directions on the bottle---I followed them . After I saw the streaking at my stopping or starting point (which there HAS to be I might add), I started to apply using a very light circular motion, overlapping until the pad was almost dry. Guess what.........I got circular streaks! But not always, which was odd to me. Nevertheless, it's easy to fix and it may just simply wipe off with a mf towel after drying.....haven't tried that yet Maybe after the next coat. If it doesn't streak on the 2nd coat, then I will assume it has something to do with applying it over a carnauba. As I said before, the streaks or smears were not "significant" and not "everywhere" applied and easily fixed. Thanks for your thoughts.

 

[dengood1]

Simply put ... when used side by side in the same fashion as Zaino CS, the Opti-seal is a much more finicky product. Using the same type of applicator, same amount, and on a car washed in the same manner there should have been no percievable difference other than outcome at best. (glossier, more reflective). The streaking on OS was considered excessive.

While AG is surely not happy that I called foul on this new product, it is Optimum and Anthony as a distributor that has more to lose. What you wont see is me challenging Optimum and asking them if they rushed the product to market once they saw CS arrived, but thats kinda what your doing to a end user when pointing the finger and blaming the operator. (lets figure out what the streaking factor is, that way we can warn and help others)

What I will offer in closing is this, I plan on using it again, and yes another bottle. If its me, then I will be glad to blame the user, but if its not, well I am going to report this also. I reread all posts and went to Anthony for comment, as I want to understand how it was intended to be used. Stay tuned !

Bump! Well stated