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Everytime I dry the car with a MF WW drying towel I mist Optimum Instant Detailer on the wet car then dry. Can I use the Optimum car wax in the same way? Spraying the wax on the wet car and drying??
 
G37 said:
Everytime I dry the car with a MF WW drying towel I mist Optimum Instant Detailer on the wet car then dry. Can I use the Optimum car wax in the same way? Spraying the wax on the wet car and drying??
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i used to do the same thing. i kept OID at 4:1 around for basic instant detail type work, but also sprayed it on after getting most of the water up and finished the job with fantastic results. the 4:1 won't streak, and with the little water left on the car it was diluted even more which is still perfect for giving gloss and that OID bright look.

then, i started to use OCW in the same manner. if the car is washed frequently i will do it every few washes, still using OID in-between. the OID seems to juice up the slickness of the OCW which is still on the car from the wash a while back. if the car sees infrequent washes, like once a month or something, every wash it gets the wax.

OCW is awesome stuff. so easy to use and the protection is real.
 
I often use OIDE as a drying agent and OCW about 1x per month after washing. I don't dilute OCW.

I agree, awesome stuff with great durability.
 

I don't dilute it. The directions say to wipe off excess water before spraying the paintwork. Optimum Car Wax lasts me nowhere near 5 months. I use it on the S2K, which is rarely driven, and lives inside of my garage. The S2K is very rarely washed, and never see's direct sunlight, yet the finish seems to lose it's smoothness after 3-4 weeks. That said, just because the finish loses it's slickness after 3-4 weeks, doesn't mean that there is no protective coat of wax on the finish.

I have not conducted extensive testing to tell exactly how long this wax lasts, but given the conditions of the S2K over the course of several months, I will say that I don't believe this wax will last anywhere near 5 months. If you put a daily driver into the equation, one in which is washed on 1-2 week intervals, driven in rain, parked in the hot summer sun, the longevity would be considerably less than a car that is not a daily driver, that is parked 24-7 inside of a private garage.

I like Optimum Spray Wax. For one, it's easy to use. It doesn't streak, (most waxes I've used don't streak) and is actually enjoyable to work with. If it only lasts 6-8 weeks, (possibly longer) it's ok with me, I still like the product. The finish may lose it's slickness after 3-5 weeks, but it still looks great, and there is still a protective layer of polymer/wax on it for another month or so. (keep in mind, this car is garaged, so results will be different for a daily driver, or a car that is parked outside 24-7)

I just did a thorough cleansing of the S2K and waxed the entire car with M16. I've changed the oil with fresh synthetic, and am planning on not driving this car for a while. I am going to check the paintwork over the next weeks and compare longevity with the Optimum. I would suspect that the M16 will outlast the Optimum, but I still like the Optimum :xyxthumbs:




 
07 z-oh-6 said:
I thought you're only supposed to use OCW on a dry car?
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That's what I thought...

A friend of mine (who's not "into" detailing) washes his car at my house fairly often. Maybe 3 washes in a row I gave him FK 425 to aid in drying. Then the next wash gave him OCW and told him to spray then wipe until it's gone. I got pretty quick negative feedback, in that dirt/dust stuck to the paint and it looked really dirty, really fast compared to "the other stuff" (FK 425).

I'm not knocking OCW, just sharing an experience relevant to the topic. It's AG product description leads you to believe it is a WOWA product. But, at the end in the FAQ's, it reads-

Why is there some haziness after I wax my car with Optimum Car Wax?

Depending on the temperature and the humidity, you may see some haziness. Lightly buff the surface with a Cobra Microfiber Towel and you will see the increase in gloss right away.
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I have a feeling this was the case, he left a film or haze behind. Maybe it wasn't spread fully/evenly, leaving a layer of wax that still needed to be buffed off or spread and thus causing the problem.

The point of my post is, I don't think OCW is the right product for the job as a drying aid.
 

A4 1.8tqm said:
the next wash gave him OCW and told him to spray then wipe until it's gone. I got pretty quick negative feedback, in that dirt/dust stuck to the paint and it looked really dirty...
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Prior to using Optimum Wax, (two years ago) I was using (alternating between) M26 and Gold Class, and found that the Optimum seemed to resist dust more noticably. Ultimately, no matter what you use, in due time, (weeks?) dust/dirt will land and subsequently stick/bond to the paintwork.

I've had great results with Optimum in this regard :xyxthumbs:



A4 1.8tqm said:
he left a film or haze behind. Maybe it wasn't spread fully/evenly...
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I've never ever had any streaking, haze or film with Optimum Wax. Not even close. I don't get streaking or haze with any wax that I use.

Instant detailers are another story, but that is another thread.



A4 1.8tqm said:
I don't think OCW is the right product for the job as a drying aid...
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:iagree:





 
Optimum Spray Wax has basically replaced my detail spray.

I wash, dry, and give it a once over with Optimum Spray Wax. I don't dilute it, just spray it on then wipe off...........

It just doesn't get any easier than that..:props:
 
So Optimum Car Wax should be used after drying the car it cannot be used as Optimum Instant Detailer on a wet car to help with drying correct? Have people used OPT Car Wax to dry a wet car with good results?
 
07 z-oh-6 said:
I thought you're only supposed to use OCW on a dry car?
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For best results, but I frequently ONR, 1 drying pass, OCW, buff to shine with great results. Damp is fine, but Overtime diluting 1:1 and applying wet seems wasteful.

Fly bye said:
I don't dilute it. The directions say to wipe off excess water before spraying the paintwork. Optimum Car Wax lasts me nowhere near 5 months...I have not conducted extensive testing to tell exactly how long this wax lasts, but given the conditions of the S2K over the course of several months, I will say that I don't believe this wax will last anywhere near 5 months...The finish may lose it's slickness after 3-5 weeks, but it still looks great, and there is still a protective layer of polymer/wax on it for another month or so. (keep in mind, this car is garaged, so results will be different for a daily driver, or a car that is parked outside 24-7)
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Optimum achieved 5 months on some panels during development. The claim is "up to 5 months." Results will vary with climate, wash intervals, products and technique, etc. That said, it's very easy to use and apply so why not do it monthly as it only takes 10-15 minutes? When 5+ month durability is required, try 2 layers of OOS topped with OCW or just have OptiCoat applied.

A4 1.8tqm said:
That's what I thought...

A friend of mine (who's not "into" detailing) washes his car at my house fairly often. Maybe 3 washes in a row I gave him FK 425 to aid in drying. Then the next wash gave him OCW and told him to spray then wipe until it's gone. I got pretty quick negative feedback, in that dirt/dust stuck to the paint and it looked really dirty, really fast compared to "the other stuff" (FK 425)...

I'm not knocking OCW, just sharing an experience relevant to the topic. It's AG product description leads you to believe it is a WOWA product. But, at the end in the FAQ's, it reads-

I have a feeling this was the case, he left a film or haze behind. Maybe it wasn't spread fully/evenly, leaving a layer of wax that still needed to be buffed off or spread and thus causing the problem.

The point of my post is, I don't think OCW is the right product for the job as a drying aid.
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It's intended use is not as a drying aid and excess water will reduce bonding considerably. OCW is a WOWO (wipe on-wipe off), OptiSeal is Optimum's WOWA (wipe on-walk away). I think your friends results were due to misapplication.

I have been an advocate for using OCW while drying in various threads, but I never apply it to a "wet" car. I simply insert it between the two drying passes within an ONR wash. As you know, the first pass only leaves minimal water behind and that's why OCW still works. For those of you doing a traditional wash, I would recommend the same procedure of removing excess water before application. If you want a drying aide to apply while the car is still wet, use OID instead at 3:1 or 4:1.
 
Chris@Optimum Thanks, I dont ever do quick details I try to touch the paint as least possible but I do use OID as a drying aid it leaves nice gloss and helps lube for the gentle pass of the WW towel so can I go with the 4 to 1 dillution ratio since I use it as a drying aid or just stick to the instructions of 3 to 1??
 
G37 said:
Chris@Optimum Thanks, I dont ever do quick details I try to touch the paint as least possible but I do use OID as a drying aid it leaves nice gloss and helps lube for the gentle pass of the WW towel so can I go with the 4 to 1 dillution ratio since I use it as a drying aid or just stick to the instructions of 3 to 1??
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:iagree: I just purchased the Optimum wax/ONR, because of the results that I've been receiving from Optimum Gloss Detailer....
 
G37 said:
Chris@Optimum Thanks, I dont ever do quick details I try to touch the paint as least possible but I do use OID as a drying aid it leaves nice gloss and helps lube for the gentle pass of the WW towel so can I go with the 4 to 1 dillution ratio since I use it as a drying aid or just stick to the instructions of 3 to 1??
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builthatch said:
i used to do the same thing. i kept OID at 4:1 around for basic instant detail type work, but also sprayed it on after getting most of the water up and finished the job with fantastic results. the 4:1 won't streak, and with the little water left on the car it was diluted even more which is still perfect for giving gloss and that OID bright look.

then, i started to use OCW in the same manner. if the car is washed frequently i will do it every few washes, still using OID in-between. the OID seems to juice up the slickness of the OCW which is still on the car from the wash a while back. if the car sees infrequent washes, like once a month or something, every wash it gets the wax.

OCW is awesome stuff. so easy to use and the protection is real.
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3:1 would work on a damp car (too prone to streaking by itself imo), but 4:1 works just as good on a damp car and uses less OID. and 4:1 is ideal for other QD use.
 
G37

4:1 is still plenty safe. It was originally recommended for those who experienced streaking on darker colors. You are exactly right about keeping a lubricant between anything contacting the surface. Even a spritz of water would be better than a dry towel.
 

Chris@Optimum said:
Optimum achieved 5 months on some panels during development. The claim is "up to 5 months."
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Chris@Optimum said:
why not do it monthly.
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How redundant
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Chris@Optimum said:
When 5+ month durability is required, try 2 layers of OOS topped with OCW or just have OptiCoat applied.
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If Optimum Car Wax lasts up to 5 months, why are you suggesting Opti-seal & Opti-Coat
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You are clearly contradicting yourself.

I like OCW, and have used it for nearly two years. The car in which I have used it on in the past is/was not a daily driver. The conditions in which the product was used, was most favorable for longevity of the product. It doesn't last 5 months. I'm not hating on the product, as I said, I like the product, it just does not last 5 months.

You stated that OCW lasts up to 5 months, then in subsequent comments, you imply that OCW does NOT last up to 5 months...




 
I'm not sure what you trying to accomplish with your reply. If you are able to grasp the concept of "up to" then there is no contradiction in my post. My suggestion for 5+ is to give options to those who want more durability than "up to 5" that's what the "+" means. And monthly applications are not redundant, it's called maintenance. My suggestions are intended to help, but if you are already getting the results you like with other techniques or other products, then do what works for you. At the end of the detail, all that matters is that YOU are satisfied.


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