Optimum compound, or Menz IP??

[A1monky]

I want to start detailing more seriously, so far I have done many cars for really cheap. I want to get a compounp so I will be prepared for what ever a potential client throws at me. So far I own Menz FP, and 106ff. I want to get a polish that does not dust or throw polish around. I finished my xmt#3, and I didnt like how it dusted alot. Oh, and I use a PC...

I have heard of people using a little optimum with their IP to stop dusting.
I wondered why bother and just use the optimum?

Thanks, Mike

 

[Bigfoot]

Optimum is great! I think all their line is awesome! OC and OP didn't dust on me, even when using it on high heat outside. You can't go wrong with them.

 

[coupe]

The optimum line is still my *go-to* when using my rotary.

 

[A1monky]

I guess I cant go wrong with the OC, I think I will get it. Unless someone convices me otherwise. I know I can finish with the 106ff after I use OC, seems like that will take care of most marring.

Any other opinions before I order???

 

[ryandamartini]

I guess I cant go wrong with the OC, I think I will get it. Unless someone convices me otherwise. I know I can finish with the 106ff after I use OC, seems like that will take care of most marring.

Any other opinions before I order???

Looks good man

 

[D]

You'll be sitting there all day using the PC with OPT.

 

[Bigfoot]

You'll be sitting there all day using the PC with OPT.

Sorry, but didn't get it. Mind to explain?

 

[coupe]

OPT line has an insanely long working time, great for rotary but bad for DA.

 

[Bigfoot]

OPT line has an insanely long working time, great for rotary but bad for DA.

I have used it with DA (the only machine I have used) and I love it! Works forever, and removing is a breeze.

 

[A1monky]

You'll be sitting there all day using the PC with OPT.

Thats what I am worried about too. Someone told me to use 1/8th FP mixed w/ IP and that will get rid of the dusting. I have FP, if this works I am golden.

Has anyone else tryed this? Might there be any problems with doing this?

 

[D]

Try 106 with IP too and let me know what happens.

 

[A1monky]

Try 106 with IP too and let me know what happens.

HAHA your funny...

 

[2KLS1]

From personal experience mixing in some FPII with IP did decrease the dusting. Not completely but almost, a lot better than IP alone. I don't know how much that compromised the cutting ability though but I don't think it was much, plus it increased the work time since FPII can be worked longer than IP. I don't think mixing in some 106ff will help any since it also dusts.

 

[A1monky]

Thanks, thats two people who have tryed it with good results. I dont see the diffrence with adding Final Polish to Int. Polish. When adding Op polish to IP, with seems to be well excepted. Sounds like its a good way to extend the polish time also.

 

[Al-53]

When the weather and temps are not favorable to use Menz with out dusting ..I use a drop or 2 of Opt polish....it works like a champ....usuallly 1 drop to 3-4 drops of menz works out perfect....

AL

 

[StephenK]

Sorry, but didn't get it. Mind to explain?

optimum line was made for use with rotary. i have read alot of reviews stating using that line with PC was nothing but trouble. but i have heard of people haveing good result when using optimum with PC. IMO optimum for rotary use only

 

[Bence]

OPT line has an insanely long working time, great for rotary but bad for DA.

You'll be sitting there all day using the PC with OPT..

Guys, this means that you CAN work with Optimum and not that you HAVE TO. It's an option, not a requirement. It breaks down pretty quickly, so it plays well with a DA - assuming you are using the correct amounts. The long working time ensures that you can refine the finish longer, which is strictly a positive plus.

Buzzing with a polisher for a week waiting for the proper breakdown wouldn't be productive for even an Optimum user...

 

[D]

Guys, this means that you CAN work with Optimum and not that you HAVE TO. It's an option, not a requirement. It breaks down pretty quickly, so it plays well with a DA - assuming you are using the correct amounts. The long working time ensures that you can refine the finish longer, which is strictly a positive plus.

Buzzing with a polisher for a week waiting for the proper breakdown wouldn't be productive for even an Optimum user...

True, but its hard to remove. Which means more time/ pressure buffing it off which increases chances of marring the paint.

 

[Bence]

When an Optimum polish is hard to remove, 1.) you have used way too much or 2.) you didn't break it properly down.

Even with my short throw DA (2 mm), Optimum polishes can be broken down in 1-2 minutes on speed 6.

Two pea sized drops on a 16 cm pad is totally sufficient (OP/OC). OHC is runnier but the dosage should be similar.

 

[pricha00]

I was making a X shape on my 6 inch CCS pad with the optimum polishes and compound. That is way more than a couple of pea sized drops!!!!! Is that why I was getting less than favourable results? After a couple of minutes on 5 or 6 with either product I wasn't seeing the level of scratch removal that I was expecting.

Pat.